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The Apple Pencil is AMAZING!
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Thanks, so it looks like I won't be giving Apple any more money this year. I was really hoping that it would at least have some limited functionality with the other devices.
I would've wanted it with a mini or a regular iPad. I realize apple optimized it for the big tablet first.
It can't because it's just a completely different technology. Which is why it's so much more precise and lag free.
But I'm sure it'll work with smaller future iPads, e.g. the Air 3.
Interesting. I wonder if this is how all the in-store units came about, by stores accidentally listing demo units as available to order? Anyone actually get one in a proper retail box from the store today? Maybe it was not their intention to launch the Pencil in stores until later.
Well, it's not bull, as it actually happened, but perhaps there was something set improperly in the iPad I was playing with. I was able to "ink" with both my finger and the Pencil in the Notes app as well as another demo app whose name I've forgotten (it was an app I don't own).
I literally had a few seconds before my unit was retrieved by the floor runner, and after my transaction was complete, there was another small crowd of people playing with the one Pencil they had on display. Since I had to get back to work, I couldn't wait for them to walk away.
I'm glad then that the palm rejection works well. I have a Pencil on order and hopefully it'll ship sooner than Nov 19.
Ok but being able to deliberately use a finger (AKA multi-touch) at the same time as the Pencil is actually a good thing! And has nothing at all to do with a malfunctioning palm rejection.
That why you can, for example, place the virtual "ruler" in the Notes app with your fingers and at the same time draw a straight line along the edge of the ruler with the Pencil.
That why you can, for example, place the virtual "ruler" in the Notes app with your fingers and at the same time draw a straight line along the edge of the ruler with the Pencil.
I believe Notes is intended to allow you to ink with a finger, but the pencil should take priority when both are in contact. The real question of palm rejection isn't if you can draw with a finger, it's what happens when the hand holding the pen is in contact with the screen. You don't want your wrist to make marks or cause rotation/panning/scrolling/zooming.
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I really like mine, writing is so natural using notability, far better than the rubber tipped stylus I have been using. The weight is perfect, texture great to hold and it seems to stay paired to the Pro all the time, so not been any initial input lag, or any lag at all.
Having used the iPad Pro for 3 hours I'm still getting used to the size, in all honesty it is just too big to have it in portrait mode other than when it is flat or leant against something. There's no doubt the screen is perfect for magazine size PDF's but it is a big device (nearly/almost the same footprint as a rMBP 13) which I'm not sure I'll get used to, 14 days to try! Already I can tell IF I did send it back I would miss the pencil input.
Having used the iPad Pro for 3 hours I'm still getting used to the size, in all honesty it is just too big to have it in portrait mode other than when it is flat or leant against something. There's no doubt the screen is perfect for magazine size PDF's but it is a big device (nearly/almost the same footprint as a rMBP 13) which I'm not sure I'll get used to, 14 days to try! Already I can tell IF I did send it back I would miss the pencil input.
Return period should be until Jan, at least in the US anyway, because we're into the holiday shopping period. Anyway great to hear some impressions from someone who actually got to take one home, thanks!
If you feel like performing an experiment, could you try drawing diagonal line very slowly (with a physical ruler is even better, but not required) and let us know if you see any "wobble" in the line (beyond what is caused by your hand)? This is an ongoing problem with active capacitive pen tech and it would be a big deal if Apple had solved this issue. Slow-drawing a circle is also a good test, but then you have to factor in your hand's wobbliness.
I rested a ruler on the screen and did a few lines, the circle is from drawing around a glass that was resting on the screen, the app used was notability.
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Were those done pretty slowly? If so that's really impressive, better than anything in the mobile space. The stuff around the circle just looks like normal tracing errors you'd even see with a real pencil. If any of that is linearity error it's still really minor.
I, too, got to try out the Pencil in store just a few hours ago when I picked up my 128GB Pro. Palm rejection works FLAWLESSLY. The only thing I can think is that the pencil you were using might've gotten swapped from the unit it was originally paired with. I tried using a pencil that was to the right of me and it wouldn't work until someone mentioned if it was with the unit paired to it. Makes sense. Btw, the pencil is freaking awesome and drawing with it is truly sublime and very Cintiq-like. Can't wait to get one ASAP. (Don't get me started on that cluster**** of a launch)
I, too, got to try out the Pencil in store just a few hours ago when I picked up my 128GB Pro. Palm rejection works FLAWLESSLY. The only thing I can think is that the pencil you were using might've gotten swapped from the unit it was originally paired with. I tried using a pencil that was to the right of me and it wouldn't work until someone mentioned if it was with the unit paired to it. Makes sense. Btw, the pencil is freaking awesome and drawing with it is truly sublime and very Cintiq-like. Can't wait to get one ASAP. (Don't get me started on that cluster**** of a launch)
Yes, as was putting a glass on the screen! Another one, red lines drawn fast, green, very slow, orange circle slow (I pushed the glass as I went around it), the red circle was fast.
The pencil is awesome, this will be brought to every iPad within the next 2 years.
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Anyways, Cintiq-like? This is the first i've heard this; the first comparison to the Wacom experience (which has been/is the best).
I'm impressed, but will need to try it myself. Only problem is, I will have to wait until next year when they ship it to me
My Apple store in Dallas did not even have any on display. However they gave me hope when the guy said that they may get some in this weekend.
This has probably been mentioned in other posts, but I'm curious as to how it feels using the pencil; i.e. is the 'feel', 'drag', similar to using a lead pencil on paper?
I honestly think it's better than the Cintiq. Cintiqs have awful parallax issues.Oops double post
Anyways, Cintiq-like? This is the first i've heard this; the first comparison to the Wacom experience (which has been/is the best).
I'm impressed, but will need to try it myself. Only problem is, I will have to wait until next year when they ship it to me
I read an article stating that Apple dos not provide an easy way to charge it. I checked it out in the store and agree with the posters. It's fun and accurate, it is a nightmare to connect and charge. It's as though Apple deliberately made it that way.
It's mostly frictionless, but offers a bit of drag. A lot like drawing with a very soft leaded pencil or oil pastel.
It comes with an adapter to charge with a standard lightning cable if you don't want to put it into the iPad's port. Nothing terribly nightmarish bout it.
Thanks Bbqthis! And forgive an old mans ignorance, but I've spent a lot of time keeping the screens on my iPads, iPhones, iMacs, etc. blemish-free. Has Apple solved the problem of using a stylus on glass without scratching
I've never had an issue with a stylus scratching the glass of an iPad (only one I've even heard of doing so are those Adonit's with the plastic disks) but the tip of the Pencil is hard, but very slightly pliable. It will wear down eventually. The glass would scratch the tip before the Pencil would scratch the glass.Thanks Bbqthis! And forgive an old mans ignorance, but I've spent a lot of time keeping the screens on my iPads, iPhones, iMacs, etc. blemish-free. Has Apple solved the problem of using a stylus on glass without scratching
That being said, I'm sure SOMEONE will figure out a way to do it, film it, and it will be some large pseudo-controversy...