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Yup. The companies might not focus on the unemployment rate due to lesser volumes of their low end product. The countries in which those companies are based just might.


Who cAres?
The low priced watches are made in sweatshop factories in Asia.
The laborers can find other manufacturing jobs.
 
I feel the same way actually.
But I do like the AP ROOs which sort of the original inspiration for the hublots.

Not a fan of that watch, either. The Royal Oak (non-Offshore,) on the other hand, is a classic, as is the Genta designed Patek Nautilus.
 
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Not a fan of that watch, either. The Royal Oak (non-Offshore,) on the other hand, is a classic, as is the Genta designed Patek Nautilus.
Your taste is classy but many young people like the avant-garde designs such as ROO and Richard Mille.
Hublot is getting better too, as they are now using in-house movements.
 
Your taste is classy but many young people like the avant-garde designs such as ROO and Richard Mille.
Hublot is getting better too, as they are now using in-house movements.

It's more about the size, to me. Richard Mille's designs are nicer, IMO, especially compared to Hublot.

I might be a business owner now, but I'm not exactly conservative. I've got tattoos, long hair, never wear a suit, and still play in bands in Los Angeles. LOL

Ultimately, I think this shows the larger point. Wearables are difficult, because everyone's tastes vary so dramatically. I actually think the Apple Watch is somewhat anonymous, and, while it doesn't jump out at me as the greatest design I've ever seen, it doesn't offend me, either. I'd wear one, and I wouldn't say it looks like it was designed by a student. It looks more like it was designed my Marc Newson, for better or worse.
 
It's more about the size, to me. Richard Mille's designs are nicer, IMO, especially compared to Hublot.

I might be a business owner now, but I'm not exactly conservative. I've got tattoos, long hair, never wear a suit, and still play in bands in Los Angeles. LOL

Ultimately, I think this shows the larger point. Wearables are difficult, because everyone's tastes vary so dramatically. I actually think the Apple Watch is somewhat anonymous, and, while it doesn't jump out at me as the greatest design I've ever seen, it doesn't offend me, either. I'd wear one, and I wouldn't say it looks like it was designed by a student. It looks more like it was designed my Marc Newson, for better or worse.
I got you.

Yes the wearavles are difficult because people have different tastes.
Even among high end watches, some people like Breguet, some like Lange, still some like Pateks and some like Richard Milles.

I find the Apple design too boring to replace any of my watches except while working out or lounging about at a hotel.
As Biver says, it really lacks the sex appeal.

Perhaps that's the way wearables will be.
 
I got you.

Yes the wearavles are difficult because people have different tastes.
Even among high end watches, some people like Breguet, some like Lange, still some like Pateks and some like Richard Milles.

I find the Apple design too boring to replace any of my watches except while working out or lounging about at a hotel.
As Biver says, it really lacks the sex appeal.

Perhaps that's the way wearables will be.

Yeah. I think the question for me is, how much do I really care about sex appeal in a watch? It's one thing to enjoy wearing Swiss autos, but, now that there is a more functional object that is competing for the same real estate on my arm, something has to give.

Don't get me wrong. I love watches. Heck, my first word as a kid was "clock," but it may be time to move on. If I had a collectible pocket watch that I loved (I actually do have one,) would the iPhone still not supplant it in my pocket? You know what I mean?

One thing is for sure. This new Apple Watch Subforum is a fun new combination of tech and watch people. :)
 
The problem is not the current generation, but future generations.


An Apple watch is not very likely to be passed on to the next generation though. It's a cheap fun gadget for those that needs it. For the telling the time I really prefer my Seiko.
 
Yeah. I think the question for me is, how much do I really care about sex appeal in a watch? It's one thing to enjoy wearing Swiss autos, but, now that there is a more functional object that is competing for the same real estate on my arm, something has to give.

Don't get me wrong. I love watches. Heck, my first word as a kid was "clock," but it may be time to move on. If I had a collectible pocket watch that I loved (I actually do have one,) would the iPhone still not supplant it in my pocket? You know what I mean?

One thing is for sure. This new Apple Watch Subforum is a fun new combination of tech and watch people. :)

You are definitely in the minority among traditional watch owners with that kind of thinking.
Most people on the Rolex Forum who own many watches and people on the High-End section of the WUS do not want any part of the new Smart watch trend.

Will these people be a dying breed?

Perhaps.
But I think as long as humans are interested in power and status symbols, which convey wealth, luxury watches (above $5000) will be around regardless of how widely adopted smart watches become.
 
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Oh I don't know.
I don't think a cheap disposable smartwatch can compete on an emotional level with mechanical art that is the haute horlogerie.

Is that sarcasm lol... mechanical art... if I want art on my body, i'll get a tattoo, not spend bucketloads on something to stick on my arm because it's 'pretty'.

I own a relatively expensive watch (a few hundred £'s - I know it's not £1000's but I see it as expensive considering it just tells me the time - which I check on my phone anyway) - I never wear it as it's pretty much redundant... the time is on my phone - if I am going to check the time, i'll usually check emails, work stuff etc - which I couldn't do on a watch... until I get a :apple:Watch :)
 
Is that sarcasm lol... mechanical art... if I want art on my body, i'll get a tattoo, not spend bucketloads on something to stick on my arm because it's 'pretty'.

I own a relatively expensive watch (a few hundred £'s - I know it's not £1000's but I see it as expensive considering it just tells me the time - which I check on my phone anyway) - I never wear it as it's pretty much redundant... the time is on my phone - if I am going to check the time, i'll usually check emails, work stuff etc - which I couldn't do on a watch... until I get a :apple:Watch :)

here is a novel idea-- just because you don't do something, it doesn't mean nobody else does.

people do spend "bucketloads" on watches and no, it's not weird.
 
here is a novel idea-- just because you don't do something, it doesn't mean nobody else does.

people do spend "bucketloads" on watches and no, it's not weird.

Take heed to your own advice... you were passing judgement on the :apple:Watch calling it cheap disposable smartwatch... if people want functionality over wrist furniture that's ok -
here is a novel idea-- just because you don't do something, it doesn't mean nobody else does.
:D
 
Take heed to your own advice... you were passing judgement on the :apple:Watch calling it cheap disposable smartwatch... if people want functionality over wrist furniture that's ok - :D


It is a disposable watch but a very desirable one, much like the ipjone 6, which will be unusable in two years :)
 
Of course he is going to say something like that . A watch craft becomes a master in at least 20 years and their watches endure but the sales is obvious. I know it is a silly thought but the sales and revenues that Apple Watch will generate and the the people will wear this will show the result . Besides that it is really easy to tell that these watch makers are a craftsman but this watch will be worn by millions and of course they are scared that their brands will fade away because they are not cool enough. Because we are living in the age coolness is more important then craftsmanship. Sadly :(

As well this the youth , teenagers and sportsman, business people will wear this. I actually use to wear precious watches but now I am waiting to wear my Apple Watch more than other ones because it will make my life easier faster and more uptime. The other ones will be left to be prestigious times and maybe buy those one not more often.
 
It is a disposable watch but a very desirable one, much like the ipjone 6, which will be unusable in two years :)

Well yes... as hardware technology progresses, it allowed software developers to maximise the potential and power of their software.
 
My guess is that Apple doesn't really care if they sell many of the Edition model or not.

I think its primary purpose is to be the one which will be used most often in article photographs, and which will show up in pictures of famous people.

It's the high priced showroom car that gets people in to buy the more affordable models :)
 
Let's be honest here.

Irrespective of knowing who made what, and what brand is what.

If you knew nothing about smart watches, and were unaware of what Apple made.

But say, you had a few 'nice' watches and liked a 'bit of design'

In all honestly, you'd look at the Apple watch. Let's be brutal here, a bland rectangle with rounded corners, and probably pass on by.

The most you can really say about the Apple Watch, is that it's inoffensive, and unlikely to put anyone off it.

And, honestly I can understand this. And I don't mean this in a negative way.

Apple have made 'ONE' watch design.
Mr Ive can dress his talk up and speak of numbers, but, we all know it's ONE thing.

If Ford bring out a car, and you have have different colored seats, 7 paintwork options, clear of tinted glass, and 3 engine sizes.
We call it one car.
You need to change the shape before you regard it as different.

But anyway, back to my point.

I think Apple HAD to make is bland and inoffensive as they only have 1 model. They can't afford to 'STYLE' it, as when you style something you may attract 20% and put off 80%
But as, normally you also have 10 or 20 or 30 other items in the range, all with a different 'style' you can afford to do it, as chances are one of your other styles will appeal to others.

So, really Apple did what we would all do in their position.
Played it safe, and make something neutral, and inoffensive.

I can almost see them testing shapes for the least reaction and going with the one that had as near to a zero on the interesting scale as possible.

There would be no point in the making a bold style that only 20% loved and 80% hated with a passion would there?

Myself, I'm OK with the look of it. And I think that's the point Apple were hoping for.
The design is just neutral, like painting your home beige or magnolia before you sell it.
You neither like it, or dislike it. there is nothing much to have a strong view on.
 
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My guess is that Apple doesn't really care if they sell many of the Edition model or not.

I think its primary purpose is to be the one which will be used most often in article photographs, and which will show up in pictures of famous people.

It's the high priced showroom car that gets people in to buy the more affordable models :)

Yep. That rose gold one with the matching leather band looks striking to me. Probably won't be able to afford it. :(
 
Yep. That rose gold one with the matching leather band looks striking to me. Probably won't be able to afford it. :(

We should create a Kickstarter project with a cheap Apple Watch electroplating kit!

Or maybe just sell small spray cans of metallic paint :D

Hey, Amazon sells Martha Stewart "rose gold" cans for $2.50.
 
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You are definitely in the minority among traditional watch owners with that kind of thinking.
Most people on the Rolex Forum who own many watches and people on the High-End section of the WUS do not want any part of the new Smart watch trend.

Will these people be a dying breed?

Perhaps.
But I think as long as humans are interested in power and status symbols, which convey wealth, luxury watches (above $5000) will be around regardless of how widely adopted smart watches become.

You are absolutely right. We can bemoan watches as status symbols all we want, but the fact remains they ARE one.

The iWatch? Maybe it will evolve into one. Right now the non-status watches of the world (the Timex/Seiko/Fossil's) are hurting BADLY, and if that's the market Apple is planning on dominating I believe that is quite possible.

Unfortunately, Ive has made it quite clear they are aiming at high end swiss stuff, and that just aint happening.

If you want to replace your Timex, or heck, even your Pebble, fine. No one I know is even considering replacing their Rolex/Omega/Patek/etc. though. Heck, no one I know is even considering replacing a TAG, and that goes to show how little perceived "status" the iWatch is generating out of the gate.

It'll be a fine gizmo. It's just not a fine timepiece.
 
If you want to replace your Timex, or heck, even your Pebble, fine. No one I know is even considering replacing their Rolex/Omega/Patek/etc. though. Heck, no one I know is even considering replacing a TAG, and that goes to show how little perceived "status" the iWatch is generating out of the gate.

It'll be a fine gizmo. It's just not a fine timepiece.

That's absolutely true right now. However, a generation from now Apple will have bred a generation of kids who won't even consider a Rolex, Omega, etc. when they can afford them because they're used to a smartwatch. That's where the danger lies.
 
That's absolutely true right now. However, a generation from now Apple will have bred a generation of kids who won't even consider a Rolex, Omega, etc. when they can afford them because they're used to a smartwatch. That's where the danger lies.

Don't be so sure.

In reality, below the modern trashy surface, things don't change THAT much.
People still enjoy the simple things in life.
People still love antiques
People still love REAL things they can hold and see working.

Why have an art gallery, when you can just set up a row of large screen TV's in some gold frames?
 
You are definitely in the minority among traditional watch owners with that kind of thinking.
Most people on the Rolex Forum who own many watches and people on the High-End section of the WUS do not want any part of the new Smart watch trend.

Will these people be a dying breed?

Perhaps.
But I think as long as humans are interested in power and status symbols, which convey wealth, luxury watches (above $5000) will be around regardless of how widely adopted smart watches become.

A lot of the commenters on Hodinkee, as well as the founder himself, are considering purchasing an Apple Watch. Just as many high end watch owners still own G-Shocks and whatnot, they'll also consider buying an Apple Watch. Why not? If you love watches, you find interesting elements in various watches of all types and prices. I like wearing my Seiko SNX111 on a Horween FormFunctionForm strap just as much as my Omega or Rolex, and the strap costs as much as the watch! Yesterday, I wore a $12 Casio F-91W.

All Apple has to do is get these watches on watch lovers, and, if the functions become difficult to live without, then there will be a tipping point.
 
Don't be so sure.

In reality, below the modern trashy surface, things don't change THAT much.
People still enjoy the simple things in life.
People still love antiques
People still love REAL things they can hold and see working.

Why have an art gallery, when you can just set up a row of large screen TV's in some gold frames?

I agree they'll never go away completely, but they'll shrink for sure. Wearing a Rolex, Omega, etc. would be limited to special occasions rather than worn everyday as many people currently do. That's like going back to the Razr except it's more bearable if you're at a social gathering where you won't interact much with the iPhone/watch.
 
I was a massive iPhone fan and had every phone between the original and the 4s. However, with the 5 I lost interest in iOS and the iPhone and neither the 5s nor the 6 has done enough to tempt me back from Android.

However, the more I look at the Apple Watch, the more I like it - I love the understated beauty of it and I think they have nailed the feature set.

In fact, I may well be persuaded back to the iPhone purely so I can get an Apple Watch!
 
We should create a Kickstarter project with a cheap Apple Watch electroplating kit!

Or maybe just sell small spray cans of metallic paint :D

Hey, Amazon sells Martha Stewart "rose gold" cans for $2.50.

Can I get mine with the Swarovski treatment?
 
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