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I always do research before I buy something. If anyone is considering buying a Garmin, look at the Garmin forums under any watch either the outdoor division or the sport division. Complaint after complaint.
Absolutely. And one thing that is always the "killer argument" of Garmin fans in this forum: "only the complainers are visible here, all the rest, the silent majority, are happy so they are not here". Well.
 
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Another fresh example. This guy is doing 6.5h of GPS stuff a week and has to charge his Fenix 7 Solar.


How can this be true if the promised values are realistic?
True example based on my experience. A garmin as a sportsman will never reach one week. 4-5 days maximum. When sitting on the couch you can reach it. Thanks for the real world example. And for sure Garmins fake battery life is not valid. Apple is not lying what you can see on your example and based on my experience.
 
True example based on my experience. A garmin as a sportsman will never reach one week. 4-5 days maximum. When sitting on the couch you can reach it. Thanks for the real world example. And for sure Garmins fake battery life is not valid. Apple is not lying what you can see on your example and based on my experience.
Or when walking a dog for 10.5 hours a week you can still reach two weeks. Why can’t you just admit the battery on the AW is woeful?
 
Because it’s not. Garmin is a crippled device to safe energy. Nothing more. Not my world. I want the best watch with the best health functions and sport functions with the best hardware and nothing like that. If garmin would implement such a device it would last 1/2 of a day - see their crippled LTE version which failed completely 🤣
My watch lasts longer than I can. And that’s for sure for 99% of the people out there.

Even a Suunto has more performance than a garmin with 1/3 of the price :

And back to the topic. Way to expensive for this crippled watch.
 
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Or when walking a dog for 10.5 hours a week you can still reach two weeks. Why can’t you just admit the battery on the AW is woeful?
Agreed. I played 2 rounds of golf this past weekend with F8 at 10 days battery life yesterday. It's 6 hours of GPS tracking. I still got 9 days left of battery today.
 

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Because it’s not. Garmin is a crippled device to safe energy. Nothing more. Not my world. I want the best watch with the best health functions and sport functions with the best hardware and nothing like that. If garmin would implement such a device it would last 1/2 of a day - see their crippled LTE version which failed completely 🤣
My watch lasts longer than I can. And that’s for sure for 99% of the people out there.

Even a Suunto has more performance than a garmin with 1/3 of the price :

And back to the topic. Way to expensive for this crippled watch.
Your math is a bit off. A titanium Suunto is £585 which is just more than half a Garmin.

Turn everything on with an AWU2 and you won’t get a day, how do you charge it on the move? 😂
 
You can get a normal Suunto without titanium. The build quality is superior instead of garmins plastic bomber 🤣. And did you see the map performance. Back to the topic: Silly prices for the flagship model. Everything is crippled down to an absolute minimum. It’s a shame. And the Suunto will last much longer than a crippled SATIq (we know that we have a bad battery life so we make it as an feature) garmin version.
 
Turn everything on with an AWU2 and you won’t get a day, how do you charge it on the move? 😂
Everything is on. I am doing real sports instead of dog walk. I never think about the battery life. It’s always full. I put it on the charger in the morning after sleeping. It lasts every race or workout I am doing. Best watch.

Back to the topic: Silly prices for garmin watches. Value: low. Price: Silly high
 
You can get a normal Suunto without titanium. The build quality is superior instead of garmins plastic bomber 🤣
And you can get a plastic Garmin for a lot less than a £1k. Your working out of finance is as bad as your battery life calculations. You are the very definition of a fan boy. ❤️
 
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Everything is on. I am doing real sports instead of dog walk. I never think about the battery life. It’s always full. I put it on the charger in the morning after sleeping. It lasts every race or workout I am doing. Best watch.

Back to the topic: Silly prices for garmin watches. Value: low. Price: Silly high
So you charge your watch EVERY day???

And a watch doesn't differentiate between jogging for an hour or walking for an hour.
 
I think when I am looking in the garmin forums I have less problems than garmin users because I have no issue at all.

Summary: I see. The only argument for the silly prices is battery life which does not really exists. 🤣
 
I think when I am looking in the garmin forums I have less problems than garmin users because I have no issue at all.

Summary: I see. The only argument for the silly prices is battery life which does not really exists. 🤣
For some reason it doesn't exist in your head but it exists in real life. You'd better go and charge your watch now
 
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I think when I am looking in the garmin forums I have less problems than garmin users because I have no issue at all.

Summary: I see. The only argument for the silly prices is battery life which does not really exists. 🤣
I have zero problems with my Epix pro.
None. I look at Apple Watch forums and see problems. By your reasoning I have the superior device.

They’re both awesome. Apple Watches are works of art. Superior display refresh rate. Garmins are tough, and have a preferable form factor for some. I also prefer how Garmin does everything, from workouts to data to watch OS. Heart rate is the same as the Apple Watches I’ve had.

Can’t both exist in your mind as stellar options?
 
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We could do a bet. One of us Apple Watch guys is buying a Fenix 8. Taking it out of the box, installing the latest firmware on it, pairing a heart rate strap and charging it full. Having ALL features enabled, no crippling. Then wearing it with one hour of running with GPS (all satellites on) each day listening to music/podcasts and of course wearing the watch 24/7.

The bet would be: does the watch battery die within or after the first 7 days.

;)
 
Can’t both exist in your mind as stellar options?
Some people have a pretty wild way of defending their preferred choice of device - I have never questioned that the people who like to run with a Garmin, can continue to do so. What I do hate, is that the other way around, some people get the idea that you can't possibly be a serious runner if you wear an Apple Watch - I will hit close to 4.000 km this year so would say I take it pretty serious and love running with my AWU.
 
Some people have a pretty wild way of defending their preferred choice of device - I have never questioned that the people who like to run with a Garmin, can continue to do so. What I do hate, is that the other way around, some people get the idea that you can't possibly be a serious runner if you wear an Apple Watch - I will hit close to 4.000 km this year so would say I take it pretty serious and love running with my AWU.

There are kids in Africa without any smartwatch who will outrun any “western male” armed with the latest Garmin gadgets any day of the week no problem.
 
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So you charge your watch EVERY day???

And a watch doesn't differentiate between jogging for an hour or walking for an hour.
There is a difference, usually, with walking profile, you don't get high precision GPS or running dynamics ...
If you play golf, it eats nothing ...
It depends on your activity, running is the most taxing on battery.
 
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There are kids in Africa without any smartwatch who will outrun any “western male” armed with the latest Garmin gadgets any day of the week no problem.
The best runner I know doesn't wear any GPS watch, uses no data at all, no gadget ...
 
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There is a difference, usually, with walking profile, you don't get Hugh precision GPS or running dynamics ...
If you play golf, it eats nothing ...
It depends on your activity, running is the most taxing on battery.
Also some Garmin folks report that they see massive drain after workouts where they wore an external heart rate monitor. Something I guess most folks only do when running and not while walking their dogs or golfing.
 
We could do a bet. One of us Apple Watch guys is buying a Fenix 8. Taking it out of the box, installing the latest firmware on it, pairing a heart rate strap and charging it full. Having ALL features enabled, no crippling. Then wearing it with one hour of running with GPS (all satellites on) each day listening to music/podcasts and of course wearing the watch 24/7.

The bet would be: does the watch battery die within or after the first 7 days.

;)
I didn’t turn anything off on my Fenix 8 and get over two weeks as it came out of the box. Can you do that with an AWU2? All the people criticising the Garmin have you actually got one? I’ve had the AWU2 and battery life is awful.
 
We could do a bet. One of us Apple Watch guys is buying a Fenix 8. Taking it out of the box, installing the latest firmware on it, pairing a heart rate strap and charging it full. Having ALL features enabled, no crippling. Then wearing it with one hour of running with GPS (all satellites on) each day listening to music/podcasts and of course wearing the watch 24/7.

The bet would be: does the watch battery die within or after the first 7 days.

;)

All you guys are pretending you are all on multi-day hiking trips or climbing Mount Everest.
 
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All you guys are pretending you are all on multi-day hiking trips or climbing Mount Everest.

No. Never pretended that? I am doing 15-20 hours of workouts (about 10-15 hours of that with GPS) with my AWU2 every week.
Garmin folks are either telling me that this isn‘t serious sport (whatever this is) or telling me that charging my watch is incredible pain, which is not.

As former Garmin user I was apalled by their buggy software and did not care if I had to charge after 3 or 5 days.
 
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I didn’t turn anything off on my Fenix 8 and get over two weeks as it came out of the box. Can you do that with an AWU2? All the people criticising the Garmin have you actually got one? I’ve had the AWU2 and battery life is awful.

I can not do that. And I am happy with the battery life of my AWU2.

And yes, I had 210, 910XT, Fenix 3, 935, 945 and two Garmin Edge bike computers (800 and 820).
Apart from lousy software quality, the hardware quality was not good either.
Support was amazing, they blazenly fast exchanged my faulty watches.

910Xt: water inside
935: altimeter defect
945: buttons not working/mushy
 
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I didn’t turn anything off on my Fenix 8 and get over two weeks as it came out of the box. Can you do that with an AWU2? All the people criticising the Garmin have you actually got one? I’ve had the AWU2 and battery life is awful.

Which display do you have btw? Is it the MIP or the AMOLED version?

I have played with a few Garmins in the store and those hideous MIP versions like look cheap ass Casio watches. It’s why in the end, I ordered the AMOLED + Sapphire + Titanium version (which sells for $1100+) which should arrive anytime soon.
 
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Also some Garmin folks report that they see massive drain after workouts where they wore an external heart rate monitor. Something I guess most folks only do when running and not while walking their dogs or golfing.
So using a 3rd party Piece of kit that drains the battery is now the fault of Garmin. It’s getting desperate now.
 
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