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The most likely reason there MAY be no HDD in the iPod touch is battery life, and anytime one removes moving parts one saves on warranty repairs. NAND Flash also allows for thinner, more durable devices. The iPhone has been quite successful as a video device with 8GB and to a somewhat lessor extent 4GB. Apple might feel 16GBs, or perhaps 32GBs is sufficient for the first device in the all NAND Flash transition.

I think that it won't be Flash based because it's been said that it would be slightly thicker than the iphone and with removing the phone part to it and adding HDD would make it bigger just removing the phone would make it similar or smaller is what i'm thinking.
 
$299

I'm surprised that people are going bananas about the pricing up in here.

I think the iPod photo was at $349 for a while, but I don't think they'll go that high anymore, with the iPhone available for not much more.

Tomorrow the iPod touch will be revealed at the old standard $299 price. I think the Nano will retain its current price points, and the shuffle will keep the same features with a slight price reduction.

Apple has hit the three "sweet spots" in most people's pocketbooks, and won't change now (they haven't hit mine, though. I've never owned an iPod).
 
My first reaction is to get a little teary-eyed about the possibility that the current Nano is toast. It's just been great for the last two years, and I need something like it for bike rides, even though I have an iPhone.
My second Nano reaction is, "hmm, wonder what they'll come up with to replace it."
 
I'm surprised that nobody has suggested that there could possibly be a built in camera to the iPod. It'd be a minimal cost increment if the OSX rumours are true (they've already written the software for the iPhone).

It will be a sad day when they even put a camera in an iPod.
 
It will be a sad day when they even put a camera in an iPod.

:( That makes me sad that it might make someone else sad.

I wouldn't mind one as long as it didn't make the thing itself any bigger.

You would think someday-- someday in the way distant future, perhaps-- they would make an iPod you could video iChat on via wifi.
 
Anyone else think that - after seeing the announcement that this is being held at Moscone - this might turn out to be *just* a "Beatles Available on iTunes!!!" announcement and nothing more...?

I can see it now: Paul and Ringo there, a live performance, tons of media, a whole section of the iTMS devoted to the band, a slew of new print and television ads, etc.

Of course, I'm not expecting this... but I think it's a lot more likely than I did, say, last night...
 
If they add wifi lets hope they allow it to be used for downloading music etc. The inability to use the Zune's wifi except to communicate with another Zune has proven to me Microsoft is clueless as far as user needs and wants are concerned.

WiFi should be used to enable stuff like Google Maps and Safari on the device. Otherwise, it would be pointless. Downloading music? Doubt that'd be of much interest. Why kill your battery to download a song? How often do you need to download a song when you are in range of wireless but don't have nearby access to a Mac or PC you own?

The other problem is that the iPod would need at least a partial iTunes client in order to deal with everything cleanly. Now you've got two iTunes clients that need to sync together (one on your iPod, the other on your Mac/PC). That's not impossible, but it is something that Apple has gone to great lengths to make it be difficult to do. There must be some reason for that.

As far as streaming to other devices, they could simply make it available via a "sharing" feature like in iTunes now, but then again, you are talking about moving iTunes functionality down to the device. In this case, there wouldn't be a legal ramification I can think of, but I would probably never have the sharing feature on as it would likely drain the battery very quickly.
 
I'm surprised that people are going bananas about the pricing up in here.

I think the iPod photo was at $349 for a while, but I don't think they'll go that high anymore, with the iPhone available for not much more.

Tomorrow the iPod touch will be revealed at the old standard $299 price. I think the Nano will retain its current price points, and the shuffle will keep the same features with a slight price reduction.

Apple has hit the three "sweet spots" in most people's pocketbooks, and won't change now (they haven't hit mine, though. I've never owned an iPod).


Ahhhhhhh...The 60g iPod photo was $599 for awhile. I know because that's what I paid for it 3 years ago.
 
I'm surprised that people are going bananas about the pricing up in here.

I think the iPod photo was at $349 for a while, but I don't think they'll go that high anymore, with the iPhone available for not much more.

One thing that I've never seen a conclusive answer to is the question of if the iPhone's price is subsidized by the AT&T contract...

I mean, if the iPhone is really a $799 or $899 MSRP device (which, with the touch screen, wireless, camera, etc it very well could be), then it would make perfect sense that something with all that less a camera and a little connectivity (and possibly with even more storage) would run $399 and $499 retail...
 
Now you've got two iTunes clients that need to sync together (one on your iPod, the other on your Mac/PC). That's not impossible, but it is something that Apple has gone to great lengths to make it be difficult to do.
Just FWIW iTunes 7 already introduced the feature of syncing purchased tracks from the iPod to any PC/Mac tied to the same iTunes account, so this part is already there and is not difficult to use.

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WiFi should be used to enable stuff like Google Maps and Safari on the device. Otherwise, it would be pointless. Downloading music? Doubt that'd be of much interest. Why kill your battery to download a song? How often do you need to download a song when you are in range of wireless but don't have nearby access to a Mac or PC you own?

THANK YOU. thats what im thinking too. i dont think that this is a great advantage. safari would be a better app. i cant get an iPhone and want safari on a portable device so bad!! ahhh.

we'll see in less than a day! cant wait!!! :eek::D:apple:
 
Ahhhhhhh...The 60g iPod photo was $599 for awhile. I know because that's what I paid for it 3 years ago.

That's my fear. I can almost see Apple deciding to intro the high-end one at $449 or $499 just to ensure the iPhone sales are not cannibalized.

At $299, I'm in. Probably that day. At $499? Nope. Can't justify it.
 
who's in the major new partnership with Apple?

... I can tell you right now that I know there will be one other thing announced at least. It deals with a major company and the company's chairman will be at the event tomorrow.
If this is Richard Branson I am excited, if it's whoever is in charge of Starbucks, it's more of a shoulder shrug. :p
 
Ahhhhhhh...The 60g iPod photo was $599 for awhile. I know because that's what I paid for it 3 years ago.

Haha yeah me too! And the hard drive on it is dying a slow death. If they come out with a nice touch screen ipod with a hard drive I will buy one to replace my poor old 4G. How about you?
 
Just FWIW iTunes 7 already introduced the feature of syncing purchased tracks from the iPod to any PC/Mac tied to the same iTunes account, so this part is already there and is not difficult to use.

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Thanks for the info! I didn't realize that! I'll have to make use of that sometime. I almost always purchase on one system, and copy the files around manually. It was always such a PITA, but once you set up the proper shares and automator scripts, you just do it as second nature. I hadn't tried it (obviously) since updating to 7.
 
phone-less iphone anyone?

i think a phoneless iphone would be a good idea for apple(doubt that its happening but...) just think of how many people want an iphone but don't want the two year contract with at&t, i know the barrier is being broken with hacks but the average consumer has no idea where to begin and won't bother to risk the 500 or 600 dollars theyve spent on the iphone. if apple comes out with the 'phoneless' iphone and prices it below the iphone it will be better than sex:D
 
*has credit card at ready* I am excited about tomorrow :) I sold my nano and am eagerly awaiting what will be released
 
One thing that I've never seen a conclusive answer to is the question of if the iPhone's price is subsidized by the AT&T contract...


Yes, Steve Jobs made it VERY clear. The iPhone is unsubsidized. That is one of the reasons people are so cheezed off Apple won't allow it to be unlocked...even after the initial contract has ended.
 
Haha yeah me too! And the hard drive on it is dying a slow death. If they come out with a nice touch screen ipod with a hard drive I will buy one to replace my poor old 4G. How about you?

I sold my 60g iPod photo 2 years ago and bought the 80g video. But the person I sold the photo to says it freezes up all the time. I prob. won't buy a new one unless it offers remote for Airtunes/:apple:tv
 
That's my fear. I can almost see Apple deciding to intro the high-end one at $449 or $499 just to ensure the iPhone sales are not cannibalized.

At $299, I'm in. Probably that day. At $499? Nope. Can't justify it.


My guess is the price points will stay the same. The days of a $499 iPod only are done. The dif b/t the iPod and iPhone will be features. IF tomorrows iPod has Wi-Fi it will NOT have a true browser, but rather connectivity to the iTMS only. Maybe some other "stores." Maybe allow synching via Wi-Fi. But there will be no Wi-Fi Internet browsing or emailing. Watch and see, Steve is going to make sure there is a definitive difference b/t the iPod, media player device and iPhone, communication device w/ media player.
 
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