How do you get that? I’m excluding digital zoom.
The actual focal range of the lenses range from 13mm for the ultra-wide, to 100mm (?) for the telephoto, and 100/13 is roughly 8x. It would only be 16x if the tele was 200mm, which it isn’t.
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The Camera Plateau: What's New With the iPhone 17 Pro Cameras
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The actual focal range of the lenses range from 13mm for the ultra-wide, to 100mm (?) for the telephoto, and 100/13 is roughly 8x. It would only be 16x if the tele was 200mm, which it isn’t.
I was talking about 8X for the tele because it's not a digitally interpolated zoom, but a crop zoom. So it depends upon how you want to define it. 8X for your definition, 16X for Apple's. Digital zoom range is 80X, since it can digitally zoom from 0.5X up to 40X.
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I remember my first camera : a panasonic FZ18, back in 2008. It had a function called « extended optical zoom » that did exactly that : a crop of the sensor central area without upsampling.
It is not a new thing or a smartphone thing to assimilate crop without upsampling to optical zoom.
I find it funny people are criticizing Apple for using a portion of the sensor for zoom.
What do you think happens when you use a full-frame DSLR/mirrorless camera and switch to crop mode?
What do you think happens when you use a full-frame DSLR/mirrorless camera and switch to crop mode?
This thread is arguing that what apple calls an optical zoom is actually a crop, and you counter by saying that other cameras call it a crop.
Even in some of Apple's own marketing, they interchange "optical zoom" with "optical-quality zoom", so I guess even they feel a bit embarrassed by the terminology 😁
At the end of the day, it's a phone, and having a 48MP sensor in it is pretty remarkable. I'm definitely happy with it dropping to 12MP when I zoom in, as I tend to export all my photos as HEIC and trash the originals anyway.
I'm not using it to take professional photos, and I guess most who do use the phone professionally are taking video rather than photos.
Digitally interpolated or not, it’s still cropped.
Focal length is a property of the lens. Change the sensor from 48 MP to 1MP, or even 1 single pixel, and those lenses are still 13mm, 25mm, and 100mm. Zoom is still 8x because 13-100 is still (close to) 8x zoom.
Um, no. Those are not their true focal lengths. The camera lenses on smartphones typically have focal lengths in the single digits.
I never said that the iPhone Pro can't do the job properly, I meant that Apple made the "plateau" but still couldn't get rid of the wobble, as the lenses still stick out...
So, there’s really no difference between taking the photo with the regular telephoto lens and then cropping it on the computer, versus using the iPhone’s 8x “zoom,” right? It would essentially be the same effect — or does the zoom also affect how the camera handles light, beyond just cropping the image?
Auto exposure and computational photography would most likely result in a different image vs simple cropping, unless you only shoot in RAW.
Yeah really tired of them saying “optical quality zoom” to make it sound like optical zoom. Its also dumb to me that they say “8 lenses in one” or whatever - by that logic they could just give it 25 lenses in one by having a 23mm, 24mm, 25mm, 26mm etc crop at every available interval between 0.5x and 8x
In the same way that internally they used to call the home button area the chin and the speaker area the forehead, before faceid came into play
Who cames up with these prototype looking, gargantuan designs? 5.5" used to be the large model. Our hands aren't getting any bigger, so release a flip phone please.
Good thing Apple never said “8x optical zoom” They said “8x optical quality zoom”, which it is.
I’ve got a proper 18-140mm camera lens, which is about 7.7x zoom. No way will it get even close to that on “optical quality”
That’s a pointless comparison of course.
However, after seeing the reviews, I can say the 8X quality is very good in daylight, and not bad in low light, and competes reasonably well on average even against the 2.5X native in my 12 Pro Max. The tele is a significant improvement over the 16 Pro Max tele and an even bigger improvement over the 16 Pro tele.
> we now have a camera plateau
Without a case.. when the 17 pro/promax is set down on its back,
does the lower lense touch the table? Or does only the camera plateau touch the table?
Without a case.. when the 17 pro/promax is set down on its back,
does the lower lense touch the table? Or does only the camera plateau touch the table?
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