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I was really hoping for an update in the Sep 9 event, since I need to purchase a new monitor this month. Given the lack of update for folks in Canada what's our best option at the moment for a 5k or even 6k 32"? Is it still the ASD?

I tried the Benq 5k, it wasn't bad, but it felt quite plasticy and not as premium for the price tag as I expected. I endedup returning it.
 
I was really hoping for an update in the Sep 9 event, since I need to purchase a new monitor this month. Given the lack of update for folks in Canada what's our best option at the moment for a 5k or even 6k 32"? Is it still the ASD?

I tried the Benq 5k, it wasn't bad, but it felt quite plasticy and not as premium for the price tag as I expected. I endedup returning it.

This is the no-brainer for me, as soon as I'm ready to spend $1400 on a monitor... but if you're even considering the ASD, sounds like this is likely in your price range...

Edit: Also, if you think there's a monitor you might want on the horizon but you need a stopgap solution now, people are selling a TON of 4K monitors on Facebook Marketplace (at least in my area). You could pick up a pretty nice 4K monitor for << $200 USD and just sell it again when you upgrade.
 
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Benq RD280 might be a good monitor, but it has nothing to do with a Retina Display resolution! With a x-resolution of 3840 and a y-resolution of 2560 pixel on 28" (or 28,2") you get only ~163 PPI with the Benq RD280.

Retina is 218 PPI!
@motrek ~ 28" 3:2 golden-ratio Big-R Retina is an interesting category. Geekon has recently launched the Hero 28, 4500x3000, 223 ppi. It’s [likely] a BOE panel, like the 6K Hero 32 (also 223 ppi). They both have the same "multi-sided" backlight system. There's also a 27" 5K coming in the series, but it hasn't launched yet.

The Hero 28 is the same resolution as the Microsoft Surface Studio, although that is 192 ppi. So the BOE panel is a bit smaller than the one Microsoft uses.

Geekon doesn’t yet have it up on their own site, but it’s in their store on Taobao:


Note that these are all pretty much always on sale (currently 12% off = ¥5,807 = US $821.11), but to see that price you have to create an account and login. Fees and sales taxes on top of that, but shipping is free. Not sure about tariffs -- they don't figure in these transactions (Apple Pay is an option), but in the US I'll guess you might have to pay a tariff at some later point.
 
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I was really hoping for an update in the Sep 9 event, since I need to purchase a new monitor this month. Given the lack of update for folks in Canada what's our best option at the moment for a 5k or even 6k 32"? Is it still the ASD?

I tried the Benq 5k, it wasn't bad, but it felt quite plasticy and not as premium for the price tag as I expected. I endedup returning it.
Maybe Philips Brilliance 5K, if it becomes available this month? It isn't up on the Philips Canada site, but it's up on the UK site. Otherwise, if you don't want plastic, then I guess it's either Kuycon G27P or G32P, or the Studio Display.

https://gdkyk.en.alibaba.com/productgrouplist-954811753/G27P.html
https://gdkyk.en.alibaba.com/productgrouplist-955036888/G32P.html

Read through this thread for advice (and perspective) about Kuycon, there are now five or six people there who have bought the G32P. The LG 6K might be right for you, but even though there is a September rumor for it, that seems unlikely at this point.
 
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Benq RD280 might be a good monitor, but it has nothing to do with a Retina Display resolution!
My bubble is impervious to your feeble attacks! 🗿

I say retina is use of any display so that 4 native pixels make up one "pixel" of display resolution. So the RD280 is "4K+" and 3840x2560 that I use as 1920x1280. Exactly what I was looking for.

One could argue that only displays made by Apple can be called Retina displays. But that would be silly.

But I'm totally cool with you having your own opinion. Just please be nice with it. ✌️
 
My bubble is impervious to your feeble attacks! 🗿

I say retina is use of any display so that 4 native pixels make up one "pixel" of display resolution. So the RD280 is "4K+" and 3840x2560 that I use as 1920x1280. Exactly what I was looking for.

One could argue that only displays made by Apple can be called Retina displays. But that would be silly.

But I'm totally cool with you having your own opinion. Just please be nice with it. ✌️
Read through this thread from start to finish and then decide again whether your posts belong here.
 
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My bubble is impervious to your feeble attacks! 🗿

I say retina is use of any display so that 4 native pixels make up one "pixel" of display resolution. So the RD280 is "4K+" and 3840x2560 that I use as 1920x1280. Exactly what I was looking for.

One could argue that only displays made by Apple can be called Retina displays. But that would be silly.

But I'm totally cool with you having your own opinion. Just please be nice with it. ✌️
By this metric, discussion of all 4K and extended 4K displays (whether horizontally or vertically) should be included here. Despite the specific thread title and the WikiPost which is only able to be maintained thanks to the people who post on-topic in the thread.

You were not looking for a high pixel-pitch display (about 192 ppi and above), but that’s what this old thread and the more-recent 6K thread are about. The fact that 4K and 4K+ displays use a 1080p-based UI in macOS has nothing to do with the question of what retina/Retina should mean with regard to desktop displays.
 
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Read through this thread from start to finish and then decide again whether your posts belong here.
I have, and they do 👍

By this metric, discussion of all 4K and extended 4K displays (whether horizontally or vertically) should be included here. Despite the specific thread title and the WikiPost which is only able to be maintained thanks to the people who post on-topic in the thread.

You were not looking for a high pixel-pitch display (about 192 ppi and above), but that’s what this old thread and the more-recent 6K thread are about.
Exactly, my point was that the whole discussion of what is and what is not Retina is open to interpretation. This thread has its own rules for what goes in the OP and that is cool. But trying to control how people comment in it? Ridiculous.

Does my monitor belong on the list in the OP? No. Not only because it's not 5K (it's 4K+) but also because it's not 27" (it's 28.2"). Which is why I didn't add it. So no need to take it further.

I was mentioning it more as a courtesy and to raise awareness for people who have the same needs as me. Of which there has already been at least one in the thread. It was the end of my personal search for a monitor that started with 5K and ended with something that is a better fit for my needs. Everybody is free to ignore my messages. 🙂
 
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I have, and they do 👍
Not really, and please don't be so childish and insist that your topic was rightly mentioned here, because if that were the case, then everyone who (as you say) thinks that quadrupling the number of pixels would meet the Retina resolution, e.g. from HD (1280x720) to WQHD (2560x1440) on 27" should be able to present their questions and information in this thread. So respect the views of the other thread participants.
 
Exactly, my point was that the whole discussion of what is and what is not Retina is open to interpretation.
“What is retina/Retina?” is hardly a new question, it is broached repeatedly in pretty much every thread about desktop displays.

You were just responding to someone who asked you about your choice. No problem. @Dark-Signature had pointed out in their own unique way that your choice was not a Retina (using Apple’s definition) monitor. @motrek had already responded with an argument in your defense. I followed up by pointing out the world’s first actual Retina 28" 3:2 (4500x3000) standalone monitor has launched recently, in the past few weeks. We had moved on.

If I understand you correctly, in your own 🗿 response, you ignored the ongoing discussion and instead came up with a humorous, nonsensical, rhetorical definition of Retina to make a point. However, you didn’t follow up and explain your point. So it’s not quite fair to call someone out for being “ridiculous” because they misunderstood you. Obviously, not everyone understood you were not being literal. Just explain it.
 
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Another touch screen! Presumably it will launch soon outside of China...

Acer 宏碁 Pro Creator PE270XT - 2025
Panel: IPS - 27" - 5120x2880 - 218ppi - 60Hz - 400 nits (DisplayHDR 600) - 2000:1 contrast - GtG 4ms
Glass: Glossy (anti-glare) - 10-point Multitouch (Microsoft Pen Protocol 2.0)
Color: 8-bit depth + FRC - 99% DCI-P3 - 99% Adobe RGB - deltaE<1 accuracy (verified)
I/O: 2x HDMI (2.0), DisplayPort (1.4), Type-C (DP Alt Mode, 90 W); USB 3.2 Hub (1x USB-B upstream, 2x USB-A downstream)
## KVM switch, PIP/PBP, 8MP webcam/mic array, 2x 5W speakers, 3.5mm audio out; included fold stand, stylus pen, remote control
Taobao.com authorized vendor: ¥4999 (MSRP ¥5799)
Press release (May 2025)
MacRumors forum thread
 
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Here is a couple more promotional video on the Brilliance 5K:



I would wager based on the reflections seen on the screen in some scenes that it is indeed glossy...
The Philips looks really nice. I wonder if the fact that they don't have much of a presence in the US anymore is going to result in deep discounts as compared to other markets, similar to how Panasonic re-entered the US market last year with an absolutely stellar quality 4K mini-LED TV that can now be had for less than half of MSRP.

This is assuming it's sold in the US at all, of course, which I'm not seeing any evidence of so far (maybe it just hasn't been released yet?)
 
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The Philips looks really nice. I wonder if the fact that they don't have much of a presence in the US anymore is going to result in deep discounts as compared to other markets, similar to how Panasonic re-entered the US market last year with an absolutely stellar quality 4K mini-LED TV that can now be had for less than half of MSRP.

This is assuming it's sold in the US at all, of course, which I'm not seeing any evidence of so far (maybe it just hasn't been released yet?)
But the question is also: How much Philips is still left in Philips? But yes, if the monitor is also glossy, then it could be a very good alternative. I like it :)
 
But the question is also: How much Philips is still left in Philips? But yes, if the monitor is also glossy, then it could be a very good alternative. I like it :)
a fair question! I really only buy their lightbulbs, but I've been satisfied with them. Obviously that's very different than computer equipment, but at a similar price point I'd be more inclined to take a risk on buying from Philips than from a less-known quantity like Kuycon or KTC.
 
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I think I'm okay with 24" so was curious in what ways you think "imac 24" >> ASD 27" ?
Have you gone and looked at the m-series imacs? It's display perfection. I'm keeping fingers crossed for a 27" display of the same quality. Apple bills it at "4.5K," it's 218 ppi on 24" (ish) diagonal size, which is the same pixel density as ASD. I believe it is billed as HDR, fwiw, and is probably only 60 hz. I lack the technical or aesthetic language to explain it, but to my eye it is more beautiful than any display I have ever tuned my retinas toward. I'd give my left nut for target display mode.


I love the display so much I run two macs, this one and my mba, enduring the awkwardness of icloud desktop just to make it happen so I can spend time looking at it. I did get an opportunity to plug my mba into one and fool around on a writing project, and while the size provided enough real estate not to need a second display, it still wasn't as pleasant to look at.

Also the speakers rule and it has the built in camera, not that I ever really use either of those.
 
Be sure to check out the WikiPost (the first post in this thread) -- I started maintaining it a few months ago. There are number of Chinese brands listed. The two current (2025) Geekon 5K displays probably use BOE panels, for example. Also the new (2025) Fshuo. The new (2025) dual-mode (5K 72Hz, 1440p 144Hz) RichVision RV200 Pro Max might also be BOE, I don't know.

CnHopeStar specializes in OEM and ODM. They don't really market their own brand -- sales are aimed at OEM and ODM B2B "partners" -- probably some of the Chinese brands listed in the WikiPost.

They have at least two websites: cnhopestar.com is the most recent, but the original is ihopestar.com -- neither is aimed at consumers, which is why you don't see it in the WikiPost.

The company also has at least two English names: Shenzhen Hopestar Sci-Tech Co., Ltd. [深圳市希之望科技有限公司, the official Chinese business name] is the original, and Hopestar Guangzhou Electronics Co., Ltd. is another. Both exist on Alibaba:

chinahopestar.en.alibaba.com
gzhopestar.en.alibaba.com

I think the panel you are talking about is also seen on cnhopestar.com (listed under "Gaming Monitor"):

OEM-27-Inch-5k-60Hz-Mirror-Screen-Business-Designers

Source-Factory-27-Inch-5K-60Hz-Mirror-Screen

"Mirror screen" usually does mean a glossy screen. You'll also note it is BOE, 300 nits, and 3000:1 contrast.

Those specs are somewhat different from the Alibaba listings you found:

Hot-Selling-BOE-Panel-27-5K_1601400487915

Hot-Selling-27-5K-BOE-Panel_1601521213810

Once you begin a dialog with them, you'll need to ask a lot of questions to make sure you are getting what you think you are getting. I'd be interested to hear what your experience is like.
FWIW, the seller seems unable to use google translate, and/or didn't work for me, but I never got a clear answer about the glossy so I moved on.
 
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Have you gone and looked at the m-series imacs? It's display perfection

No it's not. It's 490 nits, 1100:1 contrast ratio (measured with my colorimeter). Very mediocre. More importantly the viewing angles are terrible, and the white bezel is distracting. I think Apple cheaped out on the new iMac display compared to the previous ones. Notable that they aren't marketing any of the new iMac models as a Pro computer.
 
First (sponsored) review of the Philips Brilliance 27E3U7903

Seems like the real deal. Can’t see it being inferior to the Studio Display in any substantial way. If one were to be picky, the bezels are not equal and speakers are likely inferior. But screen wise, glossy, 70Hz amd much more. Price is well cheaper too…
 
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Wow. A Youtube reviewer who actually has a Colorimeter. He *measures* brightness, contrast, gamut etc. instead of saying "oooooh this looks nice", "oooooh the colours are so punchy" like most tech reviewers these days.
 
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But screen wise, glossy, 70Hz amd much more. Price is well cheaper too
Why is glossy preferred

I'm not seeing it available here in the US, the link provided in the YT doesn't show anything

Tbh, I Philips is not the name comes to mind when I think of premium monitors. I am in the market for a good 5k, though I don't. want to spend apple prices
 
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