'The Daily' News Service for iPad Set for December Media Event Launch?

[Surf Monkey]

This will be only marginally successful, if that. Most people are simply not interested in paying $50/year for general news that you can find for free on the Internet. Paywalls have only worked in a handful of cases, and only then when the content is not generally available - with the best examples being the wsj (for their good financial stuff) and consumer reports.

While the iPad's success had demonstrated a market for a new type of computing device, I don't think it has demonstrated that these people are any more willing to pay for news content than anyone else is.

So, news is free? Interesting assertion.

I think you're missing the point here. The end game isn't getting people to subscribe to this particular source. The end game is developing a model that works for the entire periodical publishing industry. All you have to do is look at the state of magazine distribution in the digital realm to see that the industry is at sea right now. They're searching for a way to make it work. This may be it.

 

[uraniumwilly]

So, news is free? Interesting assertion.

It depends on whether or not you think we're paying by watching advertisements. I would agree, we pay.

 

[wirelessmacuser]

Nefarious at best, this "paid subscription news" is nothing more than a version of Steve, the Sensor, Jobs, latest podium from which to feed filtered "for your protection" news.

More correctly it's another way to advance the Apple Agenda to his minions. Cloaked as "news" his followers and others will suck it up, the Kool-Aid flowing like a torrent on a 110 degree day in the desert.

Don't believe it? Ready to think for yourself? Tired of being a blind follower? Do a little research, it's an eye opener, I promise you.

Uncle Steve wants to control you. Think otherwise? Think Again!

Cheers...

 

[Chupa Chupa]

The topic at hand is the development of a new model for digital distribution of news based periodicals.




FOX News is biased. All news is biased. That's beside the point. The point is whether an alliance between Apple and News Corps can point the way toward a new mode in content distribution for a withering industry.



No, it's not a new concept. However, it's clear that a large percentage of people have a very hard time figuring out what's opinion and what's news. This should be abundantly clear from even a cursory examination of how options and baseless accusations originating from both sides of the political divide gain traction in the 24 hour news cycle.

Sorry, but you're on thin ground here.

1) If you are concerned my response to another poster is off the point of the entire thread then don't single me out. Respond also to those that are making this post about Rupert Murdoch and his businesses.

2) Let's not get "cute" w/ all news is biased. Anything that derives from the human mind is going to be biased, but that's not what detractors are talking about. They are talking about intentional bias. You know that.

3) Your last point contradicts your originally claiming the whole idea of people understanding the difference between news shows and opinion shows is "debatable." (Debatable is your word). If it's debatable then there is no clear data either way. Yet you are now stating it as-if your position is fact. The idea people adopt other people's opinions is not proof of anything except the obvious. It's the core of political debate which is what Olbermann, Maddow, Hannity, Beck are about. That doesn't make these shows news shows though. People don't turn in to them to find out the latest events, but the latest opinions.

 

[Mal]

Nefarious at best, this "paid subscription news" is nothing more than a version of Steve, the Sensor, Jobs, latest podium from which to feed filtered "for your protection" news.

More correctly it's another way to advance the Apple Agenda to his minions. Cloaked as "news" his followers and others will suck it up, the Kool-Aid flowing like a torrent on a 110 degree day in the desert.

Don't believe it? Ready to think for yourself? Tired of being a blind follower? Do a little research, it's an eye opener, I promise you.

Uncle Steve wants to control you. Think otherwise? Think Again!

Cheers...

Hmm, so the openly and extremely liberal "Uncle Steve" wants to control us by making us subscribe to… the allegedly right-wing news service from the Wall Street Journal.

Yep, that makes sense.

jW

 

[wirelessmacuser]

So, news is free? Interesting assertion.

I think you're missing the point here. The end game isn't getting people to subscribe to this particular source. The end game is developing a model that works for the entire periodical publishing industry. All you have to do is look at the state of magazine distribution in the digital realm to see that the industry is at sea right now. They're searching for a way to make it work. This may be it.

What a nice warm and fuzzy outlook. Too bad it's not true, believe me I wish it was. I really do.

But alas, when looking at the two people that are running this show, suddenly the slap of reality hits one across the face. This is a brilliant scheme, created by Apples highly intelligent and all controlling CEO.

Let's not kid ourselves, it's all about Money, Prestige, Power and Control. Period.

 

[Eidorian]

Davros?

 

[sishaw]

Sishaw, it's Murdoch Derangement Syndrome.

These people think Apple should ONLY be allowed to work with the likes of HuffPo. Anything else requires them to rise up and support a worldwide boycott of Apple.

Well, I would think that the iPad would be content-neutral, and that once a subscription model is in place, any periodical from Mother Jones to the National Review could use it.

Unless the little gnomes inside there that make it go have a bias.

 

[wirelessmacuser]

Hmm, so the openly and extremely liberal "Uncle Steve" wants to control us by making us subscribe to… the allegedly right-wing news service from the Wall Street Journal.

Yep, that makes sense.

jW

Right wing for now, yet subject to change.

It's no different than the path of Apple. When I first began using their computers the company and Steve himself were a great group of free thinking liberal individuals, out to show "the man" a different way. I used to have high regard for both Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak. Woz saw it coming and chose to get out and enjoy life. Too brilliant and simply not blood thirsty enough to hang with Jobs agenda, Woz is now nicely centered on a balanced life. It shows in his smile. He deserves all the fun he's having.

Now just like the radical Hippies of the past, turned mainstream capitalists, Jobs is now planted firmly in the pilots seat of one of the most highly secretive, profitable, and blood thirsty corporations in America. Just look at the full on assaults he launced against companies large and small. Virtually any company he wanted to manipulate, intimidate, or threaten. The master of spin, hype, and media management, this is all part of his plan.

Forward thinking now focused on profit taking he's become everything he hated as a young man. With his power and influence at an all time high, he's on a high fueled by seemingly endless power and money like never before.

 

[faith4more]

Fox News was created as a response to the liberal controlled media. If you hate Fox News blame the liberal media making the conservatives pounding boys for years. The only reason they or anyone claim Fox is not real news is because they don't agree with it. Fox only does what the liberal media was already doing but from a conservative slant. I don't see anyone doing pure news anymore. Everyone has a slant.

If liberal politicians had their way I would not be able to afford any Apple products because my hard earned dollars would be taken and redistributed to others. Meaning I would have to go back to PC's and a Motorola RAZR thus killing my style.

On topic I like the idea of a daily newspaper specifically made for tablets. Could be interesting.

 

[generationxwing]

I'm not a fan of FOX news or News Corp. But at least they're the only ones trying something new here. If you don't like it, just don't subscribe to the damn paper. It's really that simple.

I wonder what the reaction would be if, say, the New York Times was trying this out. Probably exactly the same, except lefties would love it and righties would hate it.

All we should be seeing here is a company trying new things. It might succeed, it might fail. We'll never know unless someone tries.

 

[JAT]

Hmm, so the openly and extremely liberal "Uncle Steve" wants to control us by making us subscribe to… the allegedly right-wing news service from the Wall Street Journal.

Yep, that makes sense.

jW

C'mon, you should know that there are no rich liberals. They're all way too altruistic!

 

[Billy Boo Bob]

You have to have something sane to compare it to. I don't watch any news besides The News Hour. When you get your news from an institution that's sane, you speak out against the insane.

So, without even watching, you KNOW that...

Fox News isn't conservative. it's just lies, distortions, lies and did I mention lies?

That's as bad as "I didn't read the bill, but we have to pass it", and "Although I don't know the facts, the cops acted stupidly".

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Dear Jeff Beck, Please shut up and play your guitar.

 

[TripHop]

Darth Vader Pretends He's Little Red Riding Hood's Grandmother

Why all the negative votes? Newspapers, magazines all do this already. This is just an electronic (and more convenient I think) medium of delivery without having to buy a new issue every month. What's the downside here?

The downside is that it is being produced by Darth Vader & Company who is hell bent on destroying America and honest journalism. I would never give News Corp a penny of money nor few minutes of attention since it's mission is to destroy all progressive movements and the Democratic Party.

 

[sishaw]

The downside is that it is being produced by Darth Vader & Company who is hell bent on destroying America and honest journalism. I would never give News Corp a penny of money nor few minutes of attention since it's mission is to destroy all progressive movements and the Democratic Party.

Oh, for heaven's sake, grow up. They have the same First Amendment right to publish their views as anyone. At least Murdoch is forward-thinking enough to see the potential of a new platform.

 

[Robin4]

The New York Times talks about this in their new segment called TimesCast. It is set on the front page and it says "an IPad newspaper". I am not sure who can see it but it was a very good segment of the news straight to my iPad, no fuss.

 

[wirelessmacuser]

Oh, for heaven's sake, grow up. They have the same First Amendment right to publish their views as anyone. At least Murdoch is forward-thinking enough to see the potential of a new platform.

I concur.

Murdoch is not bad, it's this deal which enables Steve Jobs to sensor what appears on the iPads nice display. He's the scary one.

So worried about porn, yet Steve allows app after app "guides to female orgasm, sexual positions, and on and on. Do _not_ get me wrong I'm not judging these, but rather pointing out the hypocrisy in action here. "Let's give the fanboys bragging rights for the most apps, as of last count we had only 98 fart apps, where are the rest of them? Come on developers, time to ad more. The trashier the better, we'll show those Android guys what real intellect is... Heh!

 

[Surf Monkey]

I'm not a fan of FOX news or News Corp. But at least they're the only ones trying something new here. If you don't like it, just don't subscribe to the damn paper. It's really that simple.

I wonder what the reaction would be if, say, the New York Times was trying this out. Probably exactly the same, except lefties would love it and righties would hate it.

All we should be seeing here is a company trying new things. It might succeed, it might fail. We'll never know unless someone tries.

Exactly. As I said before, if people are bent out of shape about this item, they may need to re-evaluate their ability to think outside of partisan boundaries. The bottom line here isn't that News Corps is going to try and turn all iPad owners into FOX News zombies. The point is that they're working to create a new model that EVERYONE can use. If this thing is successful, it could become the distribution format that all kinds of magazines use, from Mini Trucker Weekly to The New York Times. Getting bent out of shape because the initial content provider is News Corps is incredibly immature.

 

[karsten]

hopefully the nytimes will follow suit on this. the form factor of the tablet would be great for reading a paper, etc.

 

[ibookster]

I really wish Apple would team up with someone else than that nut case, but I guess News Corp is a major player that can't be denied.

 

[3goldens]

So essentially a virtual "heckler's veto"? Way to support free speech. Perhaps you only support free speech you agree with?

I also assume you don't watch Fox TV, any sports broadcast by Fox Sports, any 21st Century Fox Movies, or read any books published by Harper Collins (just a few of the NewsCorp companies).

Has nothing to do with free speech.

What, I think is that I find the idea of a potential partnership or relationship with Rupert Murdoch to be utterly repulsive and people should be aware of who it is they are potentially supporting by subscribing to this type of thing.

Do you even have a clue who this guy is and what he represents? I suggest for anyone interested to read the biography written a few years ago by Michael Wolf.

And actually I do not watch, subscribe to or read anything associated with any of his Evil Empire companies and haven't for years.

Mr. Murdoch took great advantage this fall of the supreme court that allows unlimited corporate spending on elections, you know the silly decision we saw earlier this year, the one that lets essentially anonymous donors and donations from anywhere in the world guide our country down whatever path they please.

Watch a news channel that has Sarah Palin as a paid commentator?

Yea, that's a news organization I want to be a part of!

Come on, lets be realistic here, this is disturbing, and if you don't understand that, well, I'm sorry.

 

[WestonHarvey1]

Watch a news channel that has Sarah Palin as a paid commentator?

Yea, that's a news organization I want to be a part of!

They also have Geraldine Ferraro as a paid commentator. What's your point?

 

[TallManNY]

There's nothing that allows a subscription where you just get charged every week. The only option now is to keep offering a new issue each week where you decide to buy it all over again.

So the current model = Buying magazines at the grocery store.
The new idea = Paying upfront and getting magazines delivered to your mailbox.

I think it's great.

Don't I already subscribe to the Wall Street Journal? I think I do. I certainly read it on my iPad and they charge me $19 a month. Sure looks like a subscription. How does this differ?

 

[louis Fashion]

eek

Nefarious at best, this "paid subscription news" is nothing more than a version of Steve, the Sensor, Jobs, latest podium from which to feed filtered "for your protection" news.

More correctly it's another way to advance the Apple Agenda to his minions. Cloaked as "news" his followers and others will suck it up, the Kool-Aid flowing like a torrent on a 110 degree day in the desert.

Don't believe it? Ready to think for yourself? Tired of being a blind follower? Do a little research, it's an eye opener, I promise you.

Uncle Steve wants to control you. Think otherwise? Think Again!

Cheers...

WTF? Is medical marijuana legal in your state or what?

 

[3goldens]

They also have Geraldine Ferraro as a paid commentator. What's your point?

Yea, we see a lot of her too, and she's doing that new reality show "Geraldine Farraros's Queens!"

Look pal, my point is Palin is nothing but a stupid opportunist who has words fed to here and gets paid a kings ransom to go around the country to talk to and rile up the geriatric tea party members.

if your one of them, well, thats coolmand congratulations. Round up the rest of the inbreds and take a car pool to the polling place to vote for her in 2012 when she runs for President. Perhaps you'll even carry the football for her so its close by when she needs it to drop a bomb on the country she can see from her back window, Russia!