iPhone 5 or earlier The day apple changed the industry and has their completion still playing catch up till now, one of the best presentations till this day. (video)

[Barbareren]

And do not get me started on the gestures - so not intuitive or user friendly. Being able to not trigger Control Center when needing Notifications and vice versa is like huge achievement. Being able to not trigger recent apps view instead of going home also seems to be huge achievement. I needed a crash course on how to work with a device without home button to use it. It really is not intuitive.

I really could not disagree more. I probably wouldn’t even have glanced at an iPhone again if Apple hadn’t ditched the home button in 2017. However, this is a matter of personal preferences, which makes it rather pointless to discuss. The gesture based navigation is very similar to the one used in BlackBerry OS10, and imo those are both very intuitive. A slow learning curve, sure, but some people here just seem to refuse to adapt... 🤷‍♂️ Fortunately, I believe gesture based navigation has come to stay. Basically, you prefer one thing, I prefer another.

Except for Settings being a mess, and RAM (app-reloads are annoying, but from my experience that was way worse on Android), I don’t have any of your other issues or grievances with iOS.

I’ve had several Xperia Android phones from Sony. They aren’t that bad, but they’re nothing special either, from my experience. I do, however, completely agree with your critique of Samsung.

 

[secretk]

I really could not disagree more. I probably wouldn’t even have glanced at an iPhone again if Apple hadn’t ditched the home button in 2017. However, this is a matter of personal preferences, which makes it rather pointless to discuss. The gesture based navigation is very similar to the one used in BlackBerry OS10, and imo those are both very intuitive. A slow learning curve, sure, but some people here just seem to refuse to adapt... 🤷‍♂️ Fortunately, I believe gesture based navigation has come to stay. Basically, you prefer one thing, I prefer another.

I have not used Blackberry so maybe this is why for me there is less experience. The gestures I find work better on the iPad Pro 2018 where the screen is bigger and I have more space. On the iPhone there is not enough space and really is about millimeters on whether you trigger notifications or control center. That for me is rather annoying. You can swipe from up to trigger notifications, control center or spotlight search. And there is no idea which one you need and which one you would trigger. Gestures are good thing but not when they are done like that. It is slow and inefficient. I now prefer to go to Settings menu instead of going to Control center. And I have turned off most of my Notifications so that I do not need to interact with the Notifications bar which needs improvements anyway.

I have to agree that the gestures are not awesome on the iPhone 8. It really took me a lot of time to get used to the idea that I need swipe from the bottom of the screen to work with the Control Center. Maybe because on Android it is from up. That being said at least there is no wrong triggering.

I still prefer the way it was done on my Sony phone though. I was able with one gesture to see both the Control center and the notifications. And then I can decide what I need more. It really is sleeker IMO and at least does not lead to wrong gestures triggering.

Except for Settings being a mess, and RAM (app-reloads are annoying, but from my experience that was way worse on Android), I don’t have any of your other issues or grievances with iOS.

Working with files is also a mess. I don't have that need that much on the personal iPhone but I do on the company one. One of my regular workflows is to save files from mail in OneDrive. This would fail often enough - 1 from 5 times. I don't know if it is because of the RAM or something else but then I would end up with file artifacts that cannot be used and cannot be also deleted from the phone. I had to go to the computer to delete them. And this negated the whole need of a company phone if I still have to go to the computer for such basic operations.

I’ve had several Xperia Android phones from Sony. They aren’t that bad, but they’re nothing special either, from my experience. I do, however, completely agree with your critique of Samsung.

Sony are not special but they are stable and things just make sense there. Not a lot of whistles, but Settings menu makes sense, working with files makes sense, notifications bar makes sense. And apps reloads or tabs reloads are less. Whenever there are tabs reloads, it actually loads faster than on the iPhone 8. It is comparable to the iPhone 12. But yeah one thing I noticed is that even if there are reloads on the Sony phone, things just get loaded faster so I do not wait that much.