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Well if apple was going to sell the card, it would have been listed.

that will suck if Apple doesn't offer ATi 5870 as a upgrade option but how the 2010 Mac Pro are getting the card, You can't get the 5870 as a standard card, the 5770 is the card you will get if your not upgrading your GPU when ordering a 2010 Mac Pro that's weird I guess I dig around and wait until the 9th this will make alot of people angry, it might just be a typo let;s hope so thanks for the heads up, might buy a new Mac Pro after all
 
that will suck if Apple doesn't offer ATi 5870 as a upgrade option but how the 2010 Mac Pro are getting the card, You can't get the 5870 as a standard card, the 5770 is the card you will get if your not upgrading your GPU when ordering a 2010 Mac Pro that's weird I guess I dig around and wait until the 9th this will make alot of people angry, it might just be a typo let;s hope so thanks for the heads up, might buy a new Mac Pro after all

I may pick up a gtx 480 and switch back to solaris if they don't release the thing.
 
I guess I read it wrong then or it might be a typo on there part but here is the site that I got the info on being at 2560x1400

http://www.dvhardware.net/article44399.html

If its 16:10 then it has to be 1600 instead of 1440.

I was interested in this monitor and I suspect it will be much closer to 1299 to match up with the HP monitor.

I just bought a 27U11 because of the same reasons others here look to other manufacturers. The iMac 27" issue, my wife's is terrible for the yellow and will be going back. The glossy screen, etc.

Well after using this thing for 2 hours now my eyes are killing me. I went with it because of the ports and really my wife's 27 seemed to be big enough when I used it all day.

But for all the faults of the Apple monitor I could look at it all day, the text was clearer.

Usability is a big deal in my book, I don't do video or photo stuff, I just need the highest res I can deal with because I spend most of my days in front of the PC in multiple RDP sessions.

I found my Huey software and even after calibrating the screen its still very hard to look at.

For everything that is wrong with the Apple monitor I'd much rather have a CD 27" assuming its going to be on par quality with the iMac 27".

I had a ZR30W on order and cancelled it when I heard about the CD 27...now I might put the order back in and return the Dell.

I think it is the antiglare coating that is causing part of the problem.
 
What is the partial guarntee?

Dell will replace the display with a new one if there is even one bright stuck pixel. This is for three years.

Well after using this thing for 2 hours now my eyes are killing me. I went with it because of the ports and really my wife's 27 seemed to be big enough when I used it all day.

But for all the faults of the Apple monitor I could look at it all day, the text was clearer.

I had a similar problem with a Dell U2311H. I used this terminal command and the text was smoothed and immediately as good as on my MBP:

defaults -currentHost write -globalDomain AppleFontSmoothing -int 2

Sometimes font smoothing isn't on by default with external non-Apple displays. It was like night and day after I ran this command and then restarted.
 
Dell will replace the display with a new one if there is even one bright stuck pixel. This is for three years.



I had a similar problem with a Dell U2311H. I used this terminal command and the text was smoothed and immediately as good as on my MBP:

defaults -currentHost write -globalDomain AppleFontSmoothing -int 2

Sometimes font smoothing isn't on by default with external non-Apple displays. It was like night and day after I ran this command and then restarted.

Thanks!

Much better and more readable....but now I know I hate the antiglare coating :)

It did make the text better but for some reason light colors really set off the coating.
 
Thanks!

Much better and more readable....but now I know I hate the antiglare coating :)

It did make the text better but for some reason light colors really set off the coating.

You are welcome. It's pick your poison I guess. I'd rather not have the glare. For some reason the Dell anitglare coating hasn't bothered me yet.
 
The glossy look isn't the end of the world. In my office its usually dim anyways. Shades down and I have the top arc window tinted pretty heavily.

I just sat down to type this back on the MB Pro and made up my mind. I'd rather deal with the gloss and possibly tint issue over the Dell.

The two displays are worlds apart in quality unfortunately. Wonder if the 30" display would be any different.
 
Well if apple was going to sell the card, it would have been listed.
Did you just look at the base models (single line listing the 5770 for the 3 columns)?

If you look at the Built To Order Options, the HD5870 is listed in each of the 3 columns (along with 2x 5770's as another possible option).
 
Both cards should be available in the store after the new model goes on sale. I see no reason for Apple not to sell the cards. In the past they have just quietly added them to the store.
 
270cd maximum brightness?

No thanks! I prefer the 400 of my ACD.

That is pretty low when you consider that Dell's current high end 30" display, the 3008WFP, has a brightness of 370cd/m2. Maybe all the info on FlatpanelsHD isn't completely accurate.
 
Did you just look at the base models (single line listing the 5770 for the 3 columns)?

If you look at the Built To Order Options, the HD5870 is listed in each of the 3 columns (along with 2x 5770's as another possible option).

But that doesn't mean it's available separately... I think he's referring to the Accessories section above the Configuration Options... In that list there's only the 5770...
 
To illuminate your room? ;)

Max brightness beyond 150cd is only leeway to compensate for fading brightness over time. 270 is plenty.

I totally agree, 270 is plenty for a brand new display.
I recently got a replacement for an almost 3 year old 30" ACD, which I kept at full brightness during the last year.
The new display is kept at 50% brightness, so about 200cd.
It is enough, but as you said, the brightness level of CCFL display fades away over time and considering that a 30" isn't like a cheap $150 20" display which you can replace every year, the maximum brightness is pretty important, at least to me.
 
I totally agree, 270 is plenty for a brand new display.
I recently got a replacement for an almost 3 year old 30" ACD, which I kept at full brightness during the last year.
The new display is kept at 50% brightness, so about 200cd.
It is enough, but as you said, the brightness level of CCFL display fades away over time and considering that a 30" isn't like a cheap $150 20" display which you can replace every year, the maximum brightness is pretty important, at least to me.

A display running at high brightness settings will fade faster of course. Eizo's 3 year warranty voids if you do this, as far as I remember. I wouldn't want to have it above 100cd anyway unless I had to work in a very bright environment. Regardless of one's requirements... high max brightness is a poor indicator for the quality of a display, that's what I meant to say...
 
But that doesn't mean it's available separately... I think he's referring to the Accessories section above the Configuration Options... In that list there's only the 5770...

The card only being available when you buy your system is very unlikely.
 
longer lifespan

lower power consumption

lower pollution because of longer lifespan and lower power consumption
these points are silly!

Who has actualy had display fail? Not me, I have some from the 90's, still working great. Longer life is silly unless you are locking yourself in a bunker away from the world for the next 10 years.

Lower power consumption, also silly. A few watts here and there, so what, nobody cares if it saves you 71 cents on your power bill over the course of a year.

Lower pollution, even more silly. Nobody shops for a monitor and wonders "hmm which one will pollute less?" No! That's just bizarre thinking. Use it, throw it away when it's done. End.
 
these points are silly!

Who has actualy had display fail? Not me, I have some from the 90's, still working great. Longer life is silly unless you are locking yourself in a bunker away from the world for the next 10 years.

Lower power consumption, also silly. A few watts here and there, so what, nobody cares if it saves you 71 cents on your power bill over the course of a year.

Lower pollution, even more silly. Nobody shops for a monitor and wonders "hmm which one will pollute less?" No! That's just bizarre thinking. Use it, throw it away when it's done. End.

They aren't silly at all. They are a serious consideration for manufacturers, business, government. As for individual users, some people do look at the environmental impact of their purchases. It may not be that way in Russia, and many other parts of the world, but in the US and UK at least there is a lot of pressure for people to think about such things, and many do.
 
It might be the display Apple should have released if they wanted to sell pro monitors, but clearly that is a business it is exiting with full aplomb.

My guess is, with the discontinuance of the 24", that the 27" might be joined by an even larger consumer monitor, designed to work w/ a remodeled AppleTV. 24" is a decent monitor size, but smallish for 16:9 TV. Apple's target seems to be the living room, not the edit room.
 
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