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The display of my MBookPro Penryn is 262k colours! Display 9C83! HOPELESS! NEW IMAGE!
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The same (or very similar) problem of my MBpro's display...
My screen was calibrated... the problem was visible with different color spaces...Ciao!
It is not supposed to prove nothing... and to begin yes it's grainy... I didn't fudge.. are you kidding? I can't understand! This image is a crop of a shot taken at iso 400... this image/crop on my MBpro as I explained before looks terrible... as kaupa wrote "Well i see 3 different green areas which are seperated very hard"... something like that... the same thing found by the Apple Assistance Service... This image's background looks "perfect" on my other laptop, on my Apple CRT studio dsplay and on my Eizo LCD... I applied smart sharpen (not much) only to see if the image a little bit more contrasted can highlight the problem on other screens where I wasn't able to find it... the result... nothing change... smooth (ya grainy) changes and not stairs o green areas separated very hard... the image wasn't posted to discuss on IQ...
Marco
That's true with that meaning for me: this image has a background that doesn't look as smooth as other images and other backgrounds... As I said the problem came out whit this and other few images, all with green backgrounds... the image isn't perfect... but is acceptable at my Eizo even if it shows possible vestiges of banding, not on my Eizo... on my MBook screen was something incredible... and I repeat that Apple Assistance found that problem immediately visible when I took my laptop to them...
Maybe is too difficult to explain for me but I can't bring you my MBpro to show you what that image looks like on it...
As I said maybe it's a problem of my screen's dithering...
Marco
The issue is different panel technologies.
The 6-bit (laptop and desktop) panels all use TN technology. TN panels are CHEAP, have fast response rates, and have super-saturated color if you are looking at them straight on. In other words, uninformed people think they're fine, and they sell really well because they're so cheap.
8-bit LCD panels use MVA or IPS technologies, which are way more expensive to produce. In addition to the extra colors, MVA and IPS panels have way better viewing angles (especially IPS), but they also have slower response times.
Because of the extra cost, no one except pro photographers, designers, or other really discriminating customers will buy a laptop with an 8-bit panel. The panel makers don't see profit in making a tiny number of 8-bit laptop panels, so no panel maker makes them.
IBM used to sell ThinkPads with IPS screens, but the panel maker quit making the screens, and the only ThinkPad left with the IPS screen is the X61 tablet. I believe that after the current batch of those is sold out they will no longer be available with IPS screens either. At that point, *all* laptops will use the 6-bit TN screens.
Apple bases its marketing claim of "millions of colors" on the screen's ability to dither automatically. Most people don't notice the difference. Pro photographers and designers do. That's why no one does final production work on a laptop.
BTW, your $150-200 LCDs are TN. They have the same problems as the laptop display the OP is complaining about. To get even a 20" IPS display you are going to spend at least $400.
Personally it's really difficult for me to see what the problem is, especially on a image that has been sharped to enhance the problem. I see graininess but that's likely from the sharpening. I guess I've to see a comparison to a picture from a good screen to tell.
My personal experience is that almost any MBP 15" screen is going to look like that. The gradients on the 17" are better but a good monitor like the Eizo is going to be even better. If Apple says that others don't have this issue, good for you. But I have doubts they will be able to deliver something to you that looks better.
My personal experience is that almost any MBP 15" screen is going to look like that. The gradients on the 17" are better but a good monitor like the Eizo is going to be even better. If Apple says that others don't have this issue, good for you. But I have doubts they will be able to deliver something to you that looks better.
It's BAD! The same photo on my Eizo Lcd or on the Lcd of my 6years old Compaq Laptop looks better and "normal"... the green background has smooth changes of colour... in my MacBookPro seems a "stair"
Terrible
i think most screens compared to Eizos will blow chunks..... Eizos are great monitors!