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Spoilers The Doctor Who Thread

Peace said:
So the Doctor has destroyed worlds. Caused Gallafray great turmoil and now.

He is responsible for Daleks.
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Well it was established, in the departing episode for the Ponds, that the Doctor can't change events that he's aware of. He knows that Davos lives to make the Daleks, so really no matter what he can't kill Davos as a child. Sure the Doctor was trying to pull off a similar paradox way back in Genesis of the Daleks, but that was with the help of the Time Lords. The Time Lords can deal with paradoxes. The Doctor by himself cannot.

Of course as I pointed out before, Moffat doesn't give a **** about even his own continuity, so... Meh.

Oh, and BTW, to be clear in Genesis of the Daleks the Doctor lets the defenseless Daleks live, after having been specifically sent to exterminate the threat. They even replayed the moment he spared them in this episode. So he was already "responsible" for all of it anyway.
 
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Peace said:
Looks like Clara Oswald left the show early.
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Couldn't come soon enough for me. I could accept the 'loss of Impossible Girliness' but since the death of Danny she's been largely redundant other than to do her 'conscience of the Doctor' schtick every bloody week. I've got nothing against either Capaldi or Coleman as actors, but the characterisations of both the Doc and Clara are poor.
 
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I just pray that the writers don't suddenly remember she came in as the impossible girl, and died the first 3 times we saw her.

I want to see Capaldi be allowed to be the Doctor. The last few episodes were not bad, but his first season it was more like he was the companion to Doctor Clara.
 
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Peace said:
Clara is gone and River Song returns for Christmas.
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I know this is not popular here but I liked Clara, thought she got a good send off though (I hope it sticks). Last weekend's episode was Dr Who's equivalent to TNG "Inner Light". Even better as Capaldi was carrying it all himself. Amazing performance.
 
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decafjava said:
I know this is not popular here but I liked Clara, thought she got a good send off though (I hope it sticks). Last weekend's episode was Dr Who's equivalent to TNG "Inner Light". Even better as Capaldi was carrying it all himself. Amazing performance.
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Oh. Capaldi did a great acting job in this last episode. Dark places went he.

And from what I can see for the 3rd. part of the season ending episode the Doctor goes off the deep end.
 
decafjava said:
I know this is not popular here but I liked Clara, thought she got a good send off though (I hope it sticks). Last weekend's episode was Dr Who's equivalent to TNG "Inner Light". Even better as Capaldi was carrying it all himself. Amazing performance.
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I think Clara was a decent campanion in and of herself. There were just few problems: they built up such a mythology in her first season that she became mundane after that, the show's writing has been very hit or miss during the time she's been on (not the actresses fault that she got stuck with "Kill The Moon", just unfortunate), and perhaps most importantly she replaced Amy and Rory.
 
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BBC Dr Who Christmas special (2015)

A new synopsis has revealed the Doctor will be recruited into her squad.

"It's Christmas Day on a remote human colony and the Doctor is hiding from Christmas Carols and Comedy Antlers," reads the synopsis, released by the BBC along with a first-look picture from the episode.

"But when a crashed spaceship calls upon the Doctor for help, he finds himself recruited into River Song's squad and hurled into a fast and frantic chase across the galaxy."


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DaveWotzit said:
BBC Dr Who Christmas special (2015)

A new synopsis has revealed the Doctor will be recruited into her squad.

"It's Christmas Day on a remote human colony and the Doctor is hiding from Christmas Carols and Comedy Antlers," reads the synopsis, released by the BBC along with a first-look picture from the episode.

"But when a crashed spaceship calls upon the Doctor for help, he finds himself recruited into River Song's squad and hurled into a fast and frantic chase across the galaxy."


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I know I'm nuts but I still get this feeling Clara Oswald was/is River Song.
 
APlotdevice said:
I think Clara was a decent campanion in and of herself. There were just few problems: they built up such a mythology in her first season that she became mundane after that, the show's writing has been very hit or miss during the time she's been on (not the actresses fault that she got stuck with "Kill The Moon", just unfortunate), and perhaps most importantly she replaced Amy and Rory.
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I mostly agree, loved Amy and Rory, Kill the Moon I hated. What I am waiting for this week is resolution of some loose threads from DOTD (all 13), TOTD (the Time Lords grant a new cycle - it was the General's voice asking "Doctor Who?), and what the "Hybrid" is? Me or me?
 
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No new Who in 2016 till the Xmas special.

and Season 10 (Spring 2017) will be Moffat's last as show runner.
replaced by Chris Chibnall.
Can't say I'm exactly over joyed at that news given the lacklustre episodes he's written in the past.
however Broadchurch was pretty good particularly the first series and to be fair season 2 of Torchwood which he ran was also pretty good.
 
See what happens when the BBC takes Doctor Who off the air for a year... It is forgotten - no posts here for nearly a year. :(

Absolutely criminal.

[rant]Apparently RTD made the comment that making 1 season of Doctor Who every year was impossible - too much to sustain - hence the season of "Specials". This was then followed in Moffat's era with Smith having 1 season split over 2 years, and Capaldi getting a year's break... (Something I'm pretty sure the actors were not in favour of - as if nothing else, I'm sure they are paid for their output, not a yearly salary... I'm sure Smith commented on this at some point.) Ultimately, the show has been back for 13 years, yet we've only had 10 proper seasons.

People familiar with UK tv say for their market, this is in fact not abnormal, as they do not use the US method of having a huge pool of writers. Some would argue that the result is better quality output, compared to the 22-26 episode seasons of shows like Star Trek/Buffy etc etc.

That would be fine... if we didn't get Fear Her, and a dozen other clunkers...

I accept that making WHO in the UK market would be pretty intense (!), but maybe what they really needed was for someone new and fresh to take over at the point that they instead decided to make the Tennant "Specials". And maybe they should have done the same again before Moffat clearly burnt out/got sidetracked with Sherlock...

Finding someone with the skillset and passion to be showrunner may not be easy, but at the end of the day, I do believe it would be possible. [/rant]

Anyways - for those that have seen the new season, you will know the big surprise at the end of The Doctor Falls... In that case - please check out my re-edit, because if you're going feature the First Doctor, it should be the original...

 
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Just to make sure there's no confusion here... If fingers need pointing, then they need pointing AT Moffat, not Chibnall. Yes, Chibnall presumably was the one who had ultimate power over the casting choice, but Moffat spent most of his time as showrunner first drip feeding, then full on pushing his female Doctor agenda, ever since "The Doctor's Wife" with the line about the Corsair's multiple genders, leading to Missy.

Despite the gist of the above, I am trying to keep an open mind...
 
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cosmichobo said:
Just to make sure there's no confusion here... If fingers need pointing, then they need pointing AT Moffat, not Chibnall. Yes, Chibnall presumably was the one who had ultimate power over the casting choice, but Moffat spent most of his time as showrunner first drip feeding, then full on pushing his female Doctor agenda, ever since "The Doctor's Wife" with the line about the Corsair's multiple genders, leading to Missy.

Despite the gist of the above, I am trying to keep an open mind...
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Umm Moffat didn't write all of that, the Corsair was written by Neil Gaiman in "The Doctor's Wife" for example.
 
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