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They aren’t going anywhere I don’t think...

FYI on the costs, the reason food and drink costs so much is because up to 90% of the ticket sales go to the studios they rent the films from, my brother in law used to be a manager of a multi screen cinema and told me, it’s literally the only way they can make their money. That’s the greedy studios for you.. I don’t think these actors and actresses are worth what they are paid anyway.
 
It has got to the point that even low end audio/video equipment can give a good experience at home, the receivers (although I like integrated amps and horns for speakers) have just about all the sound formats there are minus a few if that...just the specs are not what the claims say it is.
 
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I wouldn't say it's the end. I could see the number of cinemas/theatre shrinking but I don't think they'll completely go away. The low traffic to theatres is not because people don't want to go, it's because the content is not good. As long as studios can make something that people want to see, theatres will always have its place. Disney/Marvel with the MCU is proof of that.
 
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I wouldn't say it's the end. I could see the number of cinemas/theatre shrinking but I don't think they'll completely go away. The low traffic to theatres is not because people don't want to go, it's because the content is not good. Disney/Marvel with the MCU is proof of that. As long as studios can make something that people want to see, theatres will always have its place.

Another reason for slow traffic at the cinemas is there is just too much entertainment around. Something is taking away our attention from Cinemas, so lifestyle changes is affecting too.

For example if people are watching enough movies at home, cars , parks and other then the appetite to go to the Cinema theater fades away.
 
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When it's a family movie, we'll try to go to Harkins Theaters at $5 a person. If it's an event, Roadhouse Cinemas are full service.

Harkins is our new go to theater. We haven't been to a regular theater since the one near me opened up. Love the fact we don't have to worry about where we are going to sit and we can enjoy a cold beer before and during the show. Love it! And to boot, the price is not that much more than the regular theater down the street. Yup, we love Harkins!
 
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Single screen. Indie theater. You really don't read anything you post, do you?

We are not on the same pages are we,? post whatever you want to post but the point i am making is clear enough. Cinemas/theaters are closing down because of increasing overheads and less patrons and the reason has been discussed above. I am not sure why you are being hostile to this thread but i am guessing you probably work in that industry or something.
I will end it here.

Thread can be closed now.
 
We are not on the same pages are we,? post whatever you want to post but the point i am making is clear enough. Cinemas/theaters are closing down because of increasing overheads and less patrons and the reason has been discussed above. I am not sure why you are being hostile to this thread but i am guessing you probably work in that industry or something. The End.

Thread can be closed now.

And how much money do you think a single screen, indie theater makes? Is it enough to cover the bills? No. When you posted your large swathe of links last week or the week before, I went through all of them and helped you understand what it was you were posting. If film quality isn't good enough to get patrons in, then theaters will struggle. It isn't the theaters causing this issue, it's the film makers.

Would you like me to help you understand anything else you've posted? Endgame aside, people are tired of the tawdry super hero films. They want a really good movie to come out. Everything has been rehashed to death. Remakes are coming into form now. The Lion King is coming out later this year in all new rendered form. I predict it won't perform well. A lot of Disney's latest films didn't pan out the way they wanted them to.

High costs and not thinking ahead are the reason massive theaters close down. Just ask the two near Bowling Green, Kentucky which are now one of those megachurches that accept everyone and every creature. Built massively during a boom cycle with little to no thinking ahead of the costs involved and costs to come.
 
It is misguided to sell your cinemas downtown thinking that people will go to your new multiplex in the suburbs.
 
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And how much money do you think a single screen, indie theater makes? Is it enough to cover the bills? No. When you posted your large swathe of links last week or the week before, I went through all of them and helped you understand what it was you were posting. If film quality isn't good enough to get patrons in, then theaters will struggle. It isn't the theaters causing this issue, it's the film makers.

Would you like me to help you understand anything else you've posted? Endgame aside, people are tired of the tawdry super hero films. They want a really good movie to come out. Everything has been rehashed to death. Remakes are coming into form now. The Lion King is coming out later this year in all new rendered form. I predict it won't perform well. A lot of Disney's latest films didn't pan out the way they wanted them to.

High costs and not thinking ahead are the reason massive theaters close down. Just ask the two near Bowling Green, Kentucky which are now one of those megachurches that accept everyone and every creature. Built massively during a boom cycle with little to no thinking ahead of the costs involved and costs to come.

Thanks for your contribution but there is no need for your long, unnecessary and irrelevant post.

Simple question was asked and simple answers/discussions were posted.
 
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I wouldn't say it's the end. I could see the number of cinemas/theatre shrinking but I don't think they'll completely go away. The low traffic to theatres is not because people don't want to go, it's because the content is not good. As long as studios can make something that people want to see, theatres will always have its place. Disney/Marvel with the MCU is proof of that.

With many homes now having high speed internet, 4K, or (1080p would do), a good sound setup, (DTP or ATMOS) at a min. that should be the equivalent of a cinema surrounding. (just supply your own popcorn, and fiends.)

The only thing is the 'delay people can't wait for. So, that would always be the main goal. Too bad it's like that. If people could just wait longer instead of rushing to buy tickets, then their'd be no reason to go to cinema
 
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My vote for not going to the cinema is the crap Hollywood puts out. ALL Marvel movies are a waste of my time along with mindless teen films. I'm a member of AMC's 3 movie deal a week, but most weeks they don't have one film I would waste my gas on to drive to. The marginal ones I vote with my feet by leaving the theater during the show if it's not worth my time. At $21 a month for the AMC deal, if I don't see at least at least 3 films, I'm losing money.

If there's more than one car crash in a film, it usually means it a dog. I mostly want to see drama. At this moment, it's 50-50 that I'm going to dump the AMC deal. The only time the deal shines is at the end of the year when all the Academy Award hopefulls hit the screen.
 
I wouldn't mind paying xx of money to see the movie on release date in my home theater.

yeah, I've been an advocate of this for some time. I know when the concept has been knocked around, the suggested prices always create these two categories of responses: 1) That's great, it's cheaper than taking my family, getting eats, [possibly] parking, and the tickets in my metropolitan area - or - 2) I go to discount times by myself, and that's way more than I want to spend.

... but at any rate, if I could get a film even a week after a theatrical opening, for $XX, I'd seriously consider it, and I'm talking where XX is along the lines of theater ticket costs.
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I mostly want to see drama.

Have you seen The Souvenir, The Last Black Man in San Francisco, Book Smart, Her Smell?

I'd toss Under the Silver Lake in there if you're a fan of David Lynch.
 
My vote for not going to the cinema is the crap Hollywood puts out. ALL Marvel movies are a waste of my time

The last movie i watched at the cinema for Michael Douglas in the 90's was the most boring and tasteless drama so yeah that might played a role too for me to stay away.
 
If you stopped or slowed going to the movies what put you off?

The too-high volume levels. Man oh man. I quit going to movie theatres in the early 1970s. Contrary to what cinema owners apparently thought, not everyone became stone deaf from crowding the stage at rock concerts in the 60s. I just couldn't take it. Exceptions were a few art houses that ran foreign films on the upper west side and in the village. They seemed to have a better grip on what were reasonable audio levels.

So for entertainment I shifted to theatre, opera, ballet or to classical music performances in halls where sound levels were more reasonable. Later I got a VHS player but rarely made time to rent movies. In a way it's nice now because there are lots of good films from 70s-00s that are new to me and readily available in digital format or streamed now as 'classics'. :D
 
After slow and painful death of Blockbuster video stores i think Cinema theaters are heading on the same direction due to recent digital and technological revolution, home entertainment theater and current lifestyle. What do you think?

The last movie i watched at the movies was for Michael Douglass many many years ago and that was it , i don't know i am feeling the attraction and excitement is just not there anymore.

If you stopped or slowed going to the movies what put you off?

I think the death with Blockbuster video stores has something to do with them not being able to re-invent themselves and change their business model. If you look at Apple Inc and Dell computers; you see them today which has zero resemblance of who they were decades ago and the reason was they were able to re-invest themselves again and again and grow. Remember Apple Inc. in the late 90s; bleeding cash and almost going bankrupt until Steve Jobs returned and revamped and re-invented Apple again to become the most stock sought after company and cash rich too!?!

While some Cinema theatres are heading towards the same direction of Blockbuster not because of digital and technological revolution which you keep hearing from the news media. That happens almost every few decades anyways. Digital and technological revolution has always had some impact in media distribution, even when the first television was introduced or the first "talkie" movies came out threatening those silent movie theatres. Back then, people were harping the death of the big screen because anyone who can now buy a television can watch a TV show or a movie on a TV set. While there were some Cinema theatres closed then, those who survived had to re-invent themselves to outcompete TV, VHS and Beta recorders, Laserdisc, DVDs and Blurays with better sound, better concession stand offerings and better comfort. With today's streaming services, theatres have to again re-invent themselves to compete. I had been closely following Cineplex and had done a lot of research in this area, preparing myself whether I want to invest in this area or not as I'm from Canada and this is a classic example of a theater company who had lost about 60% of its stock value from its high, burning more cash than they take in to expand into new areas like The Rec Room, Virtual Reality, Top Golf and among others and losing patrons month over month according to their disclosed financial report. It's always synonymous to the early dying days of Apple where they too were bleeding cash, poor product offerings and aimless management until Steve Job came to the rescue. Now, if I had the foresight to buy Apple @ $9/share, which was the price then and sell them @$700 then like my friend did, I would have netted millions of dollars, retire comfortably and fly first class on a whim like my good friend who actually did. He takes his wife and kids on annual vacation in first class, bought his wife an entire kindergarten school and turned that private so she could fulfill her dream in running a children's school and he is going around the world doing non-profit work. The funny thing was when we were young adults, I was raised in a wealthy family and he was from a poor family and he would drop by my place for lunch and sometimes dinner because he couldn't afford regular meals. Now he is far more wealthier than me. Why didn't I had the foresight and vision like my friend did and not buy Apple then?!? Same with the doom and gloom prediction I see with the theatre companies -- streaming and other services are taking some of that business away. But with Apple; it was the PC taking their business away, it was their lack of vision in making new products with Steve Jobs helped achieved. Basically, my friend trusted Steve and Steve helped make him rich. I trusted the general public at Fidonet and they like me never become rich.

What I am finding with Cineplex is that, their new transformation is actually helping. I had visited this new revamped theatre and you can see a different set of crowd; a younger crowd willing to spend a lot of money. And yet many financial analysts, like those in the dying Apple days, predicted the death Cineplex and Cinema. Well, I suppose that's how you differentiate between someone who had vision and willing to invest in this business and who doesn't.

The bottom line after I had researched on this business is that, the cinema business IS FAR FROM DEATH. Streaming services are not going to kill cinema just like TV, VHS, LaserDisc, DVD and Bluray didn't, because while you might no longer go and watch a movie in front of a screen, some others do and it's how you re-invent the business to keep attracting new markets and that was what my friend then was trying to tell me about Apple. All I can only blame was myself, because I didn't listen to his reasons then which was, I thought, completely far fetched as others were proclaiming the doom of Apple Inc, just like they are doing now with Cinema.
 
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So what will change in the movie business ? IMHO...

Netflix and HBO will become powerhouses of theater content, and will stream their new pictures, exclusively, to brick and mortar public houses. These theaters will again become plush and regal, and "IN" places to be.

Old content, and "B" movies from the distant past will continue to be sold and streamed via internet and or private networks.

Down the line, interactive VR and life size projection will become the experience. A night out will be a visit to "WestWorld" but all projected, no androids. LOL. a2
 
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So what will change in the movie business ? IMHO...

Netflix and HBO will become powerhouses of theater content, and will stream their new pictures, exclusively, to brick and mortar public houses. These theaters will again become plush and regal, and "IN" places to be.

Old content, and "B" movies from the distant past will continue to be sold and streamed via internet and or private networks.

Down the line, interactive VR and life size projection will become the experience. A night out will be a visit to "WestWorld". a2

In my research, I had found the niche that cinema companies can leverage against streaming theater content is "SPACE". Specifically, entertainment space which leverages the power of immersive interactive experience. It could be AR and it could be VR and can be both. This is something cinema companies like Cineplex and AMC and the rest are actually in the process of doing and transforming, but are now bleeding cash heavily because of the revampment. It's still untested though, but I was never a big believer of VR and AR "UNTIL" I tried one of their units. After I had the AR and VR immersion experience, I realized a huge future potential because with the proliferation of 5G networks, you can have VR and AR in a cinema setting and people playing certain games together in the community. This cinema needs to also have a restaurant environment, a live entertainment environment and a kids friendly environment which this company and other theatre companies had now set out to do.

I wouldn't be surprised that in the not so distant future, we go to a theatre because we want to have a star trek holodeck experience rather being a passive audience.
 
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