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The End of Potter?

I was talking to this teacher at school, and she is obsessed with him. And she thinks the only way Voldemort will die is if harry does because they are counterparts or somethings. They cannot live without each other (???).

I have no idea what she is talking about but w/e. I think the whole story is stupid all togther. I read the first book, it was ok but the word "nearly" is over used way way way way way too much.

"Harry, your a wizard"
 
prostuff1 said:
Anyone think snape is good?? When he killed Dumbledore i got the feeling that Dumbledore was 'ordering' him to kill him. Dumbledore would not beg to be killed. I still think snape is good. Not to mention snape could have killed harry on his way out of the castle. Didnt snape tackle harry and tell him to learn to do his non spoken curses...i think that was more of a hint then anything.

I would love to see dumbleodre come back. and maybe snape could have found a way to do that. He did say he could teach people how to 'put a stopper in death.' But i dought he would have used a horcux seeing as he would have had to kill someone for that to work...and dumbledore does not seem lke the kind of person to do that.

As far as Voldemort goes i think he will end up dead and harry fine...but...harry will not be the one to kill him. I think i could be nevill. He was the other one born at the same time.

Comment on the movie (dont look if you dont want to):

I really was kinda dissapointed. not really what i thought it would be. To choppy and kixed up. I guess if you had not read the book then you probably would have liked it...but having read the book then watched the movie it was not nearly as good as i thought it would be. The aprt about nevil telling him about the gilee weed was wrong and not as good as doby telling harry. How did nevill get the gilee weed (he seems to stupid to steal it from snape). Doby was kinda big in the book but you really did not hear about see much of him in the movie. Dumbledore seed really... P.O.ed in the movie, and i did not get that from the book. The ending was really dumb. All in all, i just didnt feel any of the character development that was in the book happened in the movie. Good moive but i was hoping for somehting along the lines of the Lord of the rings series.
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I agree about Snape. thats excapctly wat i thought!
 
No no no guys! You have it all wrong! What will happen is dobly( something like that) will actually be the one who kills voldermort...


Edit: took out saves...god I dont know what happend...sigh...
 
dumbledore is most certainly NOT coming back! His character was influential in Harry's life, but dying made it necessary for him to take charge of himself and his own life, not always relying on an elder who won't always be there...;) sorry i like analyzing things.
 
prostuff1 said:
Anyone think snape is good?? When he killed Dumbledore i got the feeling that Dumbledore was 'ordering' him to kill him. Dumbledore would not beg to be killed. I still think snape is good. Not to mention snape could have killed harry on his way out of the castle. Didnt snape tackle harry and tell him to learn to do his non spoken curses...i think that was more of a hint then anything.
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First off, if you haven't gotten it by now, this thread is full of spoilers for those who haven't read the latest books. Consider yourself warned.

I think Snape is most certainly good and will be instrumental in Voldemort's downfall. If Dumbledore comes back, I'll throw up and chunk the book out the window. Dumbledore, for my money, was the weakest character—not very interesting to have a character who is practically perfect (which is why I liked him freaking out on Harry in the latest film). Several people I know actually cried when they read of Dumbledore's death—I for one was enjoying this lovely development in Snape's character. I buy into the idea that Dumbledore and Snape (two accomplished legillimentes) had a conversation at the end—Dumbledore telling Snape to fulfill his vow by killing him [Dumbledore]. This serves the purpose of keeping Potter alive, and allowing for Snape to continue to spy on Voldemort.

As for the latest movie—I thought it was exactly as it needed to be. I don't think it could've been done better. The team making the film cut all of Rowling's fluff (e.g. the house elf storyline), and stuck with the nuts and bolts of the story. I think if you took all of the movies and stacked them next to each other and rated them in various categories (acting, directing, FX, pace, etc.) Goblet of Fire will be at least tied for the lead in each of those. Most notably, I felt like the acting out of the kids was faaar better than previous movies. Some, such as my wife, complain that there weren't enough adults (by which she means "not enough Snape")...but when things aren't important to the story, they must be cut.
 
Golden_315 said:
Lord Voldemort, Lord Vader?? Supposedly killed father?

...right. I'm farily sure Harry's gonna die. I just hope it isn't the horribly cliche way of killed same time he kills Voldemort. Or dies protecting someone. Ugh. Something tells me it will be. I just though rowling has more creative than that.
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He'll go out the way Charlie Parker did. After years of heroin addiction, he'll die of heart failure in a rich fan's house while watching Tommy Dorsey's TV show.
 
The way I see it happening is that someone (Ron, for example) sacrifices himself in some way... Then look for Harry to destroy all horcruxes, and find out the ultimate secret: he is one himself. Therefore he has to get Voldy through the veil with himself and duke it out in a 'shadow-battle'. That way he can die in the presence of those who have inspired him to be the savior of the wizarding world: Dumbledore, Ron, Sirius, and (most importantly) his parents.
 
stevietheb said:
I think Snape is most certainly good and will be instrumental in Voldemort's downfall. If Dumbledore comes back, I'll throw up and chunk the book out the window. Dumbledore, for my money, was the weakest character—not very interesting to have a character who is practically perfect (which is why I liked him freaking out on Harry in the latest film). Several people I know actually cried when they read of Dumbledore's death—I for one was enjoying this lovely development in Snape's character. I buy into the idea that Dumbledore and Snape (two accomplished legillimentes) had a conversation at the end—Dumbledore telling Snape to fulfill his vow by killing him [Dumbledore]. This serves the purpose of keeping Potter alive, and allowing for Snape to continue to spy on Voldemort.
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agreed. Very good.
 
maybe an intense thumb-wrestling match?

who knows, but it's obviously going to be some "war" driven theme to that last book. i bet harry is the last horcrux; harry will have to die in order to destroy voldermort completely.
like duh and stuff :D
 
CorvusCamenarum said:
Not a chance. Snape is in it for no one but himself. He won't care who wins, so long as he's on the winning side. Dumbledore is as dead as the proverbial doornail, otherwise Snape would have keeled over dead himself from defying the Unbreakable Vow. However, in light of the other Star Wars related commentary here, I'm guessing Dumbledore pulled a Ben Kenobi, being struck down to become more powerful (he is going to get a portrait now).
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Dumbledore had Snape do it. It's all part of the plan. Snape hasn't gone back to the dark side.
 
iGary said:
Dumbledore had Snape do it. It's all part of the plan. Snape hasn't gone back to the dark side.
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Exactly!! The argument in the woods between Snape and Dumbledore was about this very thing. Snape was telling Dumbledore about the unbreakable voew he made and DD understood what that meant. In the end DD know that to keep a man inside snape would have to kill him.
 
Slightly off topic but......


Does anyone else see the coloration between the scene in the last book where a young voldemort says about the horocruxes that he should make 7 of them because "7 is the most magical number" and of course the final book will be book 7....

Something to ponder..
 
Elrond39 said:
Then look for Harry to destroy all horcruxes, and find out the ultimate secret: he is one himself.
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I think that would be far too obvious, but does offer the potential that once he destroys the horcrux within himself he ends up a squib.

stevietheb said:
I think Snape is most certainly good and will be instrumental in Voldemort's downfall.
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I agree with you that Snape remained loyal to Dumbledore, but would not qualify him a "good" or "evil". That's what makes his character interesting. I also agree with you that if Dumbledore and/or Sirius make appearances in Book 7 I will be very disappointed, even if Loony Lovegood says it's possible.

B
 
Well from an interview a year or so ago JK is toying with the thought of not stopping with the 7th book. Though I'm pretty sure she will it would be kinda odd if the 8th Harry Potter book does come out with Harry dead in the 7th.:p
 
I don't know. But I can tell you that it would really piss me off if I found out I had spent the last six years reading these books and he goes and dies at the end.
 
quigleybc said:
Slightly off topic but......


Does anyone else see the coloration between the scene in the last book where a young voldemort says about the horocruxes that he should make 7 of them because "7 is the most magical number" and of course the final book will be book 7....

Something to ponder..
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And around the time of Jesus, "7" meant "a ****load", so maybe there's lots of horocruxes and many more books in store.



I hope not :(
 
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