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The EU Wants All Phones to Work With Interoperable Chargers, Here’s What That Means for Apple's Lightning Port
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This is a great idea if you want that cable to be expensive, thick, and inflexible.
But most people want their phone charging cable to be cheap, thin, and flexible. And they don’t need it to also charge a laptop, and to also transmit data fast.
There will be a universal charger. This is mostly talking about the cables I believe.
it will have zero impact in e-waste as more and more cables will continue to be thrown away due to wear and tear this is unavoidable.
different AC Adaptors will continue as no one can do them all, all devices have different power requirements and making all be rated to the max so they can be used on all is just wasteful as this would require more materials to be used as AC Adaptors giving out less power are smaller for that reason.
also UK plugs are different to the US and do on.
the only benefits of them all adopting the Type-C as they all ready plan to so has nothing to do with the EU pushing for it, will be more convenient but still no different to e-waste
anyone thinks this will cut down e-waste is delusional
an example how micro-USB made no difference
the Raspberry Pi used micro USB yet I had to buy a Power Supply design for it not use my existing one as it was no good, it had micro USB but amp was no good and cable was not ideal for delivering power as they was too much of a voltage drop, not all cables wires are created equal.
different AC Adaptors will continue as no one can do them all, all devices have different power requirements and making all be rated to the max so they can be used on all is just wasteful as this would require more materials to be used as AC Adaptors giving out less power are smaller for that reason.
also UK plugs are different to the US and do on.
the only benefits of them all adopting the Type-C as they all ready plan to so has nothing to do with the EU pushing for it, will be more convenient but still no different to e-waste
anyone thinks this will cut down e-waste is delusional
an example how micro-USB made no difference
the Raspberry Pi used micro USB yet I had to buy a Power Supply design for it not use my existing one as it was no good, it had micro USB but amp was no good and cable was not ideal for delivering power as they was too much of a voltage drop, not all cables wires are created equal.
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Absolutely fantastic news for the customers and the environment. It will put an end to the days when each manufacturer designed and adopted a different type of cable and connection just so that they can charge a fortune for replacement ones, like Apple does.
Now, all manufacturers have to get together and come up with one cable to charge them all. All the fanboys who scream "it can't be done" need to stop their whinning and think. Humans have invented technology to go to the moon. Sure as hell they can come up with a poxy UNIVERSAL CABLE.
And all those who claim that this ruling will create more landfill are wrong too. Because, sure as hell all the after market manufacturers will come up with adapters to allow connecting a universal cable to the old ports.
Absolute rubbish. If you have a Samsung device that breaks down you can't use the charging cable on anyhting else but a Samsung device. So quite often that cable is thrown away. If all devices have one connection then that cable can be reused instead of being thrown away.
You are mistaken with your Raspberry Pi example. We are not talking about the power supply. Instead we are talking about the cable which connects the power supply to the device.
Now, all manufacturers have to get together and come up with one cable to charge them all. All the fanboys who scream "it can't be done" need to stop their whinning and think. Humans have invented technology to go to the moon. Sure as hell they can come up with a poxy UNIVERSAL CABLE.
And all those who claim that this ruling will create more landfill are wrong too. Because, sure as hell all the after market manufacturers will come up with adapters to allow connecting a universal cable to the old ports.
Absolute rubbish. If you have a Samsung device that breaks down you can't use the charging cable on anyhting else but a Samsung device. So quite often that cable is thrown away. If all devices have one connection then that cable can be reused instead of being thrown away.
You are mistaken with your Raspberry Pi example. We are not talking about the power supply. Instead we are talking about the cable which connects the power supply to the device.
Complete nonsense. Current iPhones wouldn't suddenly change ports. The lightning cables won't suddenly become obsolete.
Fantastic news? You need to get out more. This is a pimple of an issue and it's criminal the amount of effort the EU is putting into this. This is just anti Apple , anti US nonsense masquerading as enlightened action on the part of unelected busy bodies forcing their worldview down everyone's throat.
Um, the vote was cast by the European Parliament, whose members get directly elected by citizens.
I can imagine the only reason apple is complaining about this is because Tim Cook would loose money from accessory sells....
They can. That’s not the problem here.
Problems include:
- when the EU first proposed this, it would’ve been micro-USB. Do we want a world in which phones still have to use that awful plug, until revised legislation comes a decade later?
- when Apple moved to Lightning, USB-C wasn’t ready. Should they have stuck to the Dock connector? Or moved to micro-USB?
- in that world, do EU phones get a different, worse plug than US phones?
I never understood the hole blue vs green thing, are there still places where people pay for domestic sms, no I,m not trying to make a joke, i dont think that has been a thing in Europe for ages (appart fram pa as you go plans) ofc international messaging is different, and yea there the blue messages ar deffenetkyban advantage, or use messenger/skype etc
... and look at how much innovation and design improvement we’ve seen with electrical power plugs...
What if we request Apple to submit new cable/port standard applications to EU before the product launch? If approved by the committee, that will be the next standard. If rejected, Apple can still launch the product, but will be obligated to bidirectionally exchange their proprietary chargers and cables with EU standard ones free of charge for ones of the same condition.
Just like LTE and 5G. We can still innovate but we all have to agree on compatibility and reciprocal licensing.
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who does that with a phone?
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Completely wrong.
iPhone comes with a USBA to Lightning cable. Use your existing USBA power sources. If you are in fact so far ahead of everyone and have nothing but USBC sources, you’d need only buy a USBC to Lightning cable or adapter.
Or vote with your wallet and just don’t buy an iPhone. Free market at work.
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Good observation.
What that observation has to do with my post, however, is a mystery...
I’ve been using lightning cables since iPhone 5, never seen a spark, ever!
nice photo editing, almost looks real
Edit:BTW pin 4 is the identification/control pinout
I'd start by avoiding bundling cables and wall plugs with the smartphones.
I have plenty of lighting cables, don't need a new one each time I buy an iPhone. That would reduce waste.
I'd also avoid shipping earphones, a lot of people end up using bluetooth accessories so it is another waste of plastic and wires.
If you really need the cable you can purchase it separately, but the majority of customers would just use the stuff they have at home.
I have plenty of lighting cables, don't need a new one each time I buy an iPhone. That would reduce waste.
I'd also avoid shipping earphones, a lot of people end up using bluetooth accessories so it is another waste of plastic and wires.
If you really need the cable you can purchase it separately, but the majority of customers would just use the stuff they have at home.
You're priceless. You do realise that sockets are older than the EU? And by the way, the UK and Switserland are not part of the EU.
Stupid. How about the EU spend their time on something actually important? Ridiculous.
Please explain. I have Huawei P20 Pro which I have sometimes charged with my son's Samsung charger/cable and he has done the opposite. That is the benefit of having USB-C connection on both phones.
In fairness, the darkened traces are pin 5, which is power.
Still, the photo is either doctored or the user has something else going on.
I've never seen any sparks or pins discoloration on any of my family's various lightning cables since Lightning first came out over seven years ago. (and I've also yet to break any cables either)
There’s nothing stupid about this. Companies shouldn’t create new plugs just to sell more chargers. They did make a voluntarily agreement with the industry. But if that isn’t enough, good for them. its thanks to the EU we also got rid of roaming charges. Never let the industry do things without legalisation. It always ends in bed news for workers, the environment and the customer.
Ah, the government. Rather than let consumers decide, we just call in Big Brother to handle it for us. Good for us, because you know everything the government gets involved in turns out to be cutting edge!
If you think this is a good decision, please read Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell:
If you think this is a good decision, please read Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell:
You are aware that without the government, companies will end up hurting workers, the environment and customers? They’re only in the game to make a profit.