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The EU Wants All Phones to Work With Interoperable Chargers, Here’s What That Means for Apple's Lightning Port
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USB Implementers Forum is a not-for-profit organization and Apple is a member of it anyways.
So basically it’s going to take a few years to get this going at which point I hope USB-C looks like micro-USB compared to some new technology that Apple incorporates within the lightning connector.
Do they not sell USB-C to Lightning cables or adapters in your country?
There are many such options available here in the US via Amazon or ebay or even Apple.
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Hmm can’t decide if I want a corporation to overreach, or a government. In this case I’m leaning Corp.
Same as happened with USB A. The spec will be revised to support the new speeds and features (USB 1.0->2.0->3.0->3.1).
And eventually USB-C will be replaced new even better technology. Just like every other data connector has been.
This type of change is nothing new to electronics manufactures. They all have members on the same standards committees.
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Pretty small connector. Fits in billions of other phones, and sides of iPad Pros.
Erm...not really, the States consists of just of one country, Europe has many, lots of different languages, customs, laws and so on.
It would be great to have just one kind of plug in Europe, most have the same but not all, they should make it mandatory to only use one kind of outlets in new to build buildings/factories/houses.
Yeah, but the point is that Europeans will be stuck with USB-C until the EU government decides to catch up.
I suggested the “new to build” option.
But you can’t argue “EU is multiple independent countries so they should all be allowed to make up their own standards for wall outlets” and then argue “EU has authority to make manufacturers selling into any of these independent countries use the same charge port.”
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You kind of can tell what the upper limit is based on the size of the wires and the spacing between them.
Uh... I don't want any government telling Apple what features their devices can have...
I too prefer USB C. But the government gotta mind their business. This ain't communism.
Yeah, this isn't communism. Not really sure why you would bring up communism in the first place.
The EU is becoming less relevant by the day. Apple may as well ignore them.
It's typical government bureaucrats trying to enter an arena they have no business in. Apple should announce that they do not intend to meet the standard and, therefore, the products will not be made available in the EU. Let's see how the EU feels then. People can and are already voting with their wallets. If people really wanted USB-C only, they would stop buying phones with Lightning ports. This is not the reality.
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While I'm not disagreeing with you, if I (me, personally) need to charge a device and there's a problem between the cable and the port, 100% of the time it's been an iOS device giving me trouble. Not a USB Type-C port.
Besides, given that Apple can make a USB Type-C port durable enough to be used as a charging port in a professional setting, where it's being used multiple times a day, I'm sure Apple can make a durable port for the phone too.
And by throwing out your lightning cables you are adding e-waste.
Are you saying that the legislation would force you to throw away all of your Lightning cables and devices that use Lightning cables?
And yet my MBP loses its power connection a hundred times a day if I move my laptop an inch one direction or another. From any of its four ports.
I'll take corporation as well. If a different company offers products better suited to my needs I can switch over much more easily / faster than I can switch to a different government.
Eventually it will, because once you upgrade your devices they become useless.
BAHA! Stifles innovation...
Oh yeah, then how come you jumped right on the USB-C bandwagon with other products? Having a bag full of dongles for a MacBook isn't wasteful or more expensive for the consumer? Doesn't having USB-C iPad produce more e-waste, considering that in of itself is not of the norm for tablets?
And I loved the "We do not believe there is a case for regulation given the industry is already moving to the use of USB Type-C through a connector or cable assembly" In that case, why even have a defence? They're admitting that other manufacturers are moving to USB-C anyhow, so what impact does it have on Apple whether they do with or without the EU's input?
Apple is so hypocritical sometimes its a complete joke. The only reason they won't make the move is for security; they don't want people plugging USB-C devices into their iPhones.
Oh yeah, then how come you jumped right on the USB-C bandwagon with other products? Having a bag full of dongles for a MacBook isn't wasteful or more expensive for the consumer? Doesn't having USB-C iPad produce more e-waste, considering that in of itself is not of the norm for tablets?
And I loved the "We do not believe there is a case for regulation given the industry is already moving to the use of USB Type-C through a connector or cable assembly" In that case, why even have a defence? They're admitting that other manufacturers are moving to USB-C anyhow, so what impact does it have on Apple whether they do with or without the EU's input?
Apple is so hypocritical sometimes its a complete joke. The only reason they won't make the move is for security; they don't want people plugging USB-C devices into their iPhones.
How does that differ from the free market situation where Apple made all of the 30-pin connectors obsolete without any help from a legislative body?
Nah, go ahead and keep them in your drawer forever.
Whether you throw them away now or throw them away in 15 years they are still going to end up in a landfill. But now you get to buy all new cords because EU says so.