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It was rather sad to learn that he held out hope for a miracle to the end....facing his mortality could not have been easy, especially with relatively young children and so many unfinished projects at Apple.
 
Very conflicted here. Can a man truly be "great" if he acts like a jackass? I'm not so sure. You can tell a lot about people in how they treat others, especially those powerless when compared to them.

I may or may not have some emotions about Steve...


That is all

Careful guys, those comments won't sit well here.

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That sucks.
I'll bet Adobe loves seeing that "Videos require Flash" footnote.

Adobe: In yer face, Apple!

This is what Steve would have wanted. He hated Adobe and flash.
 
They said in the interview that Steve Jobs did not know how to design either hardware or software. I wonder if he dropped out of college because he was failing at it?
 
very touching..

wow.. i just want to take my time with the things that come out about him.. and learn.. beyond just living the history that was/is Apple.. i see myself in alot all of the people that enjoy Apple
 
Wow. Just I saw the first video on the bottom when Jobs was talking about Microsoft, Google, and Facebook. That was already entertaining!

First time I ever heard about Steve Jobs was back in the 1990's but it was Bill Gates that became a household name to my family by the mid-1990's when Windows already took over the world. Everybody was talking about the youngest billionaire at the time and Bill Gates was it.

Going to watch more of these vids. You can hate Jobs for being pompous and arrogant, but you can never blame him for being dishonest with his competitors or having bad taste!
 
Very conflicted here. Can a man truly be "great" if he acts like a jackass? I'm not so sure. You can tell a lot about people in how they treat others, especially those powerless when compared to them.


I think that hearing about his character flaws is actually a good thing. There are too many great people who we hold up in history as these perfect people, I would much rather know about the bad about someone who I admire as much as Steve. It makes him more real. He was a real human being who did remarkable things in his life.
 
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the recorded audio of Steve sends shivers down my spine, very very sad. he speaks with such a passion; his spirit is very strong and apparent from his voice.
 
Bill Gates referring to Apple model of offering end to end integrated systems, no license:

"it works only if you are Steve Jobs"

Steve referring to MS model to license software to every one:

"it works if what you make is crap"

Priceless... quintessential Steve Jobs.

note: paraphrased, not exact...
 
I'm curious, why did he refuse, or was so against and hated the idea of some of those early employees getting some stock options? Like what was the logic behind lets say being so against Wozniak giving them some shares? Sounded like an messed up thing to do, but I'm keeping an open mind.

I too, wondered the same exact thing.
 
60 Minutes (the show) has three segments of roughly 15 minutes each. The Jobs segment was the first. What you are able to download is the segment that was televised, with additional content.

Actually there were two Jobs segments. And the third and final segment was about autism and the iPad.
 
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"Videos require Flash" - Good old Steve must be turning in his grave..


They played perfectly, in full screen on my android phone. I guess having web videos that play in all browsers, OS's and mobile devices is a bad idea. Oh wait...
 
More like a propensity for being a callous prick.

I know people are going to criticize you for this comment, but the fact is, most people give him the benefit of the doubt over and over.

When it comes to charity, for example, he stopped all of Apple's non-profit work and apparently didn't do much of that personally. People will say, "oh, well, he wanted to improve the world through his products." Yes, but people pay a premium to have Apple's premium products, so I'm not sure if that's really the point. It's not like there are many poor people who get to enjoy Apple's products, and when people talk about charity, they're talking about the poor, not the wealthy.

The point when I really got upset was when I read (or heard...can't remember) him criticizing Gates as basically a failure and went on to say that it's good he's out of the technology sector and concentrating on all of that foundation stuff. It was so cynical and so ridiculous. Gates is clearly a super bright guy who has decided to do some very great things at the end of his life, and I have a lot of respect for that. Everything I've read about how Gates dedicates himself to solving major problems that affect millions of people has made me respect him more and more. People may have a sour taste in their mouths about him because of Microsoft (myself included), but I think that what he's doing, abstracted from his name, is more respectable that many people would give him credit for when they see his name.

To me, Jobs was clearly a genius and a very shrewd guy. I didn't know him personally, so I try to judge him on the face-value of his comments and not read too much into them. Many people seem to just give him endless breaks, though, not realizing that disagreeing with something he did or said doesn't negate your respect for the work he did or the intelligence he possessed.

The reality distortion field does not need to extend to you. It's good to have crazy geniuses in this world, and as the interviewer noted, delusional, out-there thinking probably contributed to breakthroughs for Jobs.

I know people like Jobs: very intelligent, but conceited and stubborn. I can respect them for what they are, but also look very clearly at what they are not. I hope you can do the same.
 
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CBS wants you to buy their $5 iPad 60 Minutes App to be able to watch it on the iPad. Greedy people! I guess they want to milk the iPad owners.
 
I know people are going to criticize you for this comment, but the fact is, most people give him the benefit of the doubt over and over.

When it comes to charity, for example, he stopped all of Apple's non-profit work and apparently didn't do much of that personally. People will say, "oh, well, he wanted to improve the world through his products." Yes, but people pay a premium to have Apple's premium products, so I'm not sure if that's really the point. It's not like there are many poor people who get to enjoy Apple's products, and when people talk about charity, they're talking about the poor, not the wealthy.

The point when I really got upset was when I read (or heard...can't remember) him criticizing Gates as basically a failure and went on to say that it's good he's out of the technology sector and concentrating on all of that foundation stuff. It was so cynical and so ridiculous. Gates is clearly a super bright guy who has decided to do some very great things at the end of his life, and I have a lot of respect for that. Everything I've read about how Gates dedicates himself to solving major problems that affect millions of people has made me respect him more and more. People may have a sour taste in their mouths about him because of Microsoft (myself included), but I think that what he's doing, abstracted from his name, is more respectable that many people would give him credit for when they see his name.

To me, Jobs was clearly a genius and a very shrewd guy. I didn't know him personally, so I try to judge him on the face-value of his comments and not read too much into them. Many people seem to just give him endless breaks, though, not realizing that disagreeing with something he did or said doesn't negate your respect for the work he did or the intelligence he possessed.

The reality distortion field does not need to extend to you. It's good to have crazy geniuses in this world, and as the interviewer noted, delusional, out-there thinking probably contributed to breakthroughs for Jobs.

I know people like Jobs: very intelligent, but conceited and stubborn. I can respect them for what they are, but also look very clearly at what they are not. I hope you can do the same.

Read the book. In it you will see Jobs and Gates were closer than you may think.
 
Isaacson's Ridiculous Reality Distortion on 60 Minutes

:rolleyes: I could not have been more dismayed when Walter Isaacson, this so-called “expert” on Steve Jobs, stated the following (I paraphrase) regarding the state of Apple at the time of Jobs’ return:

‘Apple was 90 days from bankruptcy! Out of money!’

Not only is this a LIE, presumably out of ignorance, but it doesn’t even make sense. Somehow, magically, money appears out of nowhere to save Apple simply because Steve Jobs is hired as a consultant. *DING-a-LING* Insert MIRACLE here. RIGHT.

You’re a sucker for stooopid, Walter Isaacson. You’ve just destroyed your reputation as an historian: TOTAL FAIL.

Now I’m going to worry what other distortions and rumor mongering this dope puked up into his book about Steve Jobs. This particular type of reality distortion is sick and sad. Steve Jobs deserves a hell of a lot better biographer. Either that, or Isaacson is one gullible dunce for believing this dusty old tall tale about Apple.

(I have to wonder: Was Steve Jobs pulling a trick on Isaacson by telling this tall tale? Jobs always did have a tinge of berzerker).
 
:rolleyes: I could not have been more dismayed when Walter Isaacson, this so-called “expert” on Steve Jobs, stated the following (I paraphrase) regarding the state of Apple at the time of Jobs’ return:

‘Apple was 90 days from bankruptcy! Out of money!’

Not only is this a LIE, presumably out of ignorance, but it doesn’t even make sense. Somehow, magically, money appears out of nowhere to save Apple simply because Steve Jobs is hired as a consultant. *DING-a-LING* Insert MIRACLE here. RIGHT.

You’re a sucker for stooopid, Walter Isaacson. You’ve just destroyed your reputation as an historian: TOTAL FAIL.

Now I’m going to worry what other distortions and rumor mongering this dope puked up into his book about Steve Jobs. This particular type of reality distortion is sick and sad. Steve Jobs deserves a hell of a lot better biographer. Either that, or Isaacson is one gullible dunce for believing this dusty old tall tale about Apple.

(I have to wonder: Was Steve Jobs pulling a trick on Isaacson by telling this tall tale? Jobs always did have a tinge of berzerker).

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-90-days/
 
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