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if your goint to want to use a chat / video confrence program such as iChat you need a web cam having seen and used iSight recently i cant agree more iSight is perfect for all your chat talks this is going to save me a fortuine in phone calls to the UK alone...
 
I love iChat AV

i only have one person who has the iSight and i use my mini DV ... but works great... no lag... very smooth... it would be cool if my PC friends with webcams could talk to me too
 
iChatAV: try reinstall or Panther upgrade

Hey, Genie

How's the G5? ;)

Have you installed PANTHER? Regardless of your date of purchase or delivery, call Apple and have them send you a FREE copy of PANTHER. Tell them you have several Million fans who enjoyed watching you unpack and setup your G5 in September - truly a First Look, that would be upset if Apple failed to take care of you. Your site has to be as popular to Mac users as the Virginia Tech G5 Supercomputer site.

1. Have you repaired Permissions with the Apple Disk Utility?
2. Have you re-installed iChatAV? (Do you have an iSight yet?)
3. Panther comes with the final version "1.0", previously in Jaguar it was Beta.

Have you seen the cool new T-Shirts with a downloaded picture of you?
"While wishing for a G5, I dream of Genie" :cool:

p.s. Where do you and Troy call "heaven" :confused:
 
Re: iChatAV: try reinstall or Panther upgrade

Originally posted by MacRAND
Hey, Genie

How's the G5? ;)

The G5 is just fabulous!

Have you installed PANTHER? Regardless of your date of purchase or delivery, call Apple and have them send you a FREE copy of PANTHER. Tell them you have several Million fans who enjoyed watching you unpack and setup your G5 in September - truly a First Look, that would be upset if Apple failed to take care of you. Your site has to be as popular to Mac users as the Virginia Tech G5 Supercomputer site.

1. Have you repaired Permissions with the Apple Disk Utility?
2. Have you re-installed iChatAV? (Do you have an iSight yet?)
3. Panther comes with the final version "1.0", previously in Jaguar it was Beta.

Have you seen the cool new T-Shirts with a downloaded picture of you?
"While wishing for a G5, I dream of Genie" :cool:



Wow- thanks for the wonderful note!
The traffic has been just unbelievable!

I emailed Steve Jobs but no reply yet... Do you have friends at Apple? :)

I would love to see the t-shirts....

You know- I'm embarassed now- I just installed Panther and haven't tried iChat since- maybe it'll work just fine...

Yes, Apple was nice enough to give me an iSight...
 
I'm a freelancer. I think it would be great to open iSight up to Windows users - even for FREE. I don't have an iSight - and I probably won't buy one until I can chat with any of my clients (Windows users). I don't care what kind of camera they have, I would of course buy an iSight (not another mac cam). So, in my opinion, this COULD lead to sales of iSights - by Mac users who haven't bought one for lack of having any one to chat with.

regards
J.
 
Re: iChatAV: try reinstall or Panther upgrade

Originally posted by MacRAND
Tell them you have several Million fans who enjoyed watching you unpack and setup your G5 in September
Yeah...
Do you still have the box the G5 came in ? You could do a repeat show with your iSight. :D
 
Re: Re: iChatAV: try reinstall or Panther upgrade

Originally posted by Dahl
Yeah...
Do you still have the box the G5 came in ? You could do a repeat show with your iSight. :D


Hmm.... Wheels spinning...

Do ya think that'd have the same "wow" factor as the G5?:p
 
Opening the iSight box and doing a demo

Genie,

Ms GENIE opening the cool iSight box may not have exactly the same WOW as the much anticipated reception of a totally new G5, but combine the novelty with your celebrity and it's a good show. Just because you started off with "who shot J.R. Ewing" ratings doesn't mean you should cancel "Dallas".

This time select the best digital photos to make a more focused and concise slike show. Draw up a "script list" after you run through opening and assembling, the start over and photograph. You might even try a short QuickTime movie downloaded to your website. Do you have a DV camcorder? Shucks, Apple might be hiring you to be its New Products demo girl. The new LCD monitors and iMac will be coming out soon.

You could do some patriotic photos with you wearing a camouflage t-shirt and hat (easily acquired at a military surplus store), themes like encouraging people to email or iChat AV American servicemen overseas (Iraq, UK, Spain, etc.) using an iSight and other Apple technology. Genie, did you get a set of Panther DOG TAGS? the tags would go well with your "service" outfit. This fits your helping other theme. :p

I finally broke down and bought an iSight (instead of using my Canon ZR70mc via FireWire all the time) because it's:
1. so cool looking and compact :cool:
2. a Mac product
3. I like iChatAV and am hoping for creater adoption and use by my friends (can't encourage others to use iChat AV and an iSight unless I'm a memeber of the club) ;)
 
Apple's easse of use

My son in Brisbane and I in the US got on the phone the other night, having physically installed the iSights, we then set up iChat AV and within 3 minutes of all this activity were on line, hung up the phones and had over an hour on line with clear pictures and generally good sound.
Each using G5s 1.8 and Panther. Apple must get this product out for Windows. The more time Wintel users get to see Apple in action, the more likely a switch will happen. Exposure is key to sales.
 
Re: Apple's easse of use

Originally posted by rjwill246
My son in Brisbane and I in the US got on the phone the other night, having physically installed the iSights, we then set up iChat AV and within 3 minutes of all this activity were on line, hung up the phones and had over an hour on line with clear pictures and generally good sound.

How much lag did you have in the transmission? Was it just like talking on a good telephone connection, or was there an annoying delay?
 
Jabber Wish

I think that supporting Jabber with iChat would fit in very well with Apple's "Open Source Inside" strategic direction of the past few years. Using AIM is good and should be continued, but in the long run Jabber is probably the best IM system from a technical standpoint. Apple's weight on its side might hasten marketplace adoption.
 
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
No, I think it sells iSights. What's the point of an iSight without iChat AV?

An iSight is useless without iChat AV. But iChat AV is not useless without an iSight. You can use any video camera with iChat, so releasing iChat to Windows would not necessarily result in more iSight sales. It's true that the iSight is better suited to video chat than Firewire camcorders, but most Windows users don't understand the concept of paying more for a better product.
 
Re: Apple's easse of use

Originally posted by rjwill246
My son in Brisbane and I in the US got on the phone the other night, having physically installed the iSights, we then set up iChat AV and within 3 minutes of all this activity were on line, hung up the phones and had over an hour on line with clear pictures and generally good sound.
I'll be using iChat AV with my brother in Denmark very soon and I can't wait.
It's going to change many people's lives.
 
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
iSight: $150
FireWire Camcorder: $360

You do the math.

where do you buy your DV camcorders?

sure you can find one, but of what quality?

comparing the price the price of a DV camcorder to the price of a webcam is like comparing the price of a car to the price of a motorcycle

150$ is a lot to pay for a webcam - iSight is beautiful, and high quality - like a BMW motorcylces

360$ for a DV camcorder is like buying a Hundia Accent ... sure it will get the job done, but you may not be all that satisfied with it
 
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
That's my point exactly: the cheapest DV camcorder is more expensive than the iSight, therefore price-conscious (PC) buyers will buy the iSight.

my bad... i've been stuck writing an this damn art history essay all day.. i'm having trouble making sense of simple things

sorry dude
 
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
No, you did a good job of backing up my point. Thank you.

to bad my essay isn't about the economics of purchasing cameras.... LOL
 
Originally posted by uiop
I think people are missing the bigger picture. I don't think apple will make ichat for windows.

Now with AOL's partnership with Apple, I have a feeling that AIM and AOL will have a compatibility with iSight and iChat. Meaning, us with macs will be able to video chat with our PC companions

BOOOM... I think that is exactly what's going to happen.
 
The iSight seems to me to be a transitional product, there is no future in 'bolt on' camera's, pretty soon laptops and displays will have camera's built into them the same way mobile phones do now.
For now the iSight offers better quality and its movable, but an integrated screen camera and wireless mobile phone camera would be a better solution.

So, I'm expecting this (iChat for PC's), rumour to be true on the grounds that there is a finite amount of time for Apple to recoup iSight development costs. dD
 
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