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What do you think will happen to the iPod touch product line

  • The current (fifth) generation is the last generation; it will be phased out in the near future

    Votes: 106 35.2%
  • It's going nowhere! They'll make a version with the Apple A8 Processor to match current hardware

    Votes: 39 13.0%
  • It's going nowhere! They'll make a version with the Apple A7 processor to keep it one behind.

    Votes: 96 31.9%
  • They'll make an A7 version, but after that, it's getting phased out.

    Votes: 34 11.3%
  • They'll make an A8 version, but after that, it's getting phased out.

    Votes: 26 8.6%

  • Total voters
    301
I assume the processor is just gonna be 1.2 Ghz then...

1Gb of RAM memory for sure, which is lame, this year iphone 6s is gonna have 2gb minimum, the device maybe not even worth (it might be a piece of junk already despite being brand new lol). Hope i'm wrong.

yeah i know about the ios9 optimization blah blah blah, that means 1 more year of use with 1Gb RAM that's all.
 
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I assume the processor is just gonna be 1.2 Ghz then...

1Gb of RAM memory for sure, which is lame, this year iphone 6s is gonna have 2gb minimum, the device maybe not even worth (it might be a piece of junk already despite being brand new lol). Hope i'm wrong.

yeah i know about the ios9 optimization blah blah blah, that means 1 more year of use with 1Gb RAM that's all.

It will most likely be the same as the Touch 5 except it will have an A7 with 1GB of RAM. It will most likely also have a 128GB option. Same camera too.

I'm buying one when it comes out :D.
 
It will most likely be the same as the Touch 5 except it will have an A7 with 1GB of RAM. It will most likely also have a 128GB option. Same camera too.

I'm buying one when it comes out :D.

I will too but only if the price is decent and of course if the browsing is as fluent as the iphone 6. 32Gb minimum.

Right now with my ipod touch 5 and ios 8.4 i can barely browse, in fact its a pain to browse currently.
 
Overall, I'm really disappointed that Apple has decided to just replace the processor and colors
(based on yesterdays news). I expected the finger sensor at least. also no finger sensor, no Apple Pay.

also, expect the 1gb of ram to make the device barely chug along.
 
All I want for my music collection is 128GB of storage and enough beef to run iOS stutter-free.
 
Even more disappointing is the lack of Touch ID and true-tone flash, and it appears that the camera has been unchanged (I can tell based on the size of the aperture). It's probably like an iPad Mini 2 in specs, just like the current one is like an iPad Mini 1.



thats a great improvement.

A6 Chips with 1GB of ram is going to do wonders for developers trying to optimize basically EVERYTHING for the iPod 5th Gen.


trying doing a search on textDidEdit. Its unworkable. They need the iPod Touch if not consumers then solely for a cheaper option to use a handheld device in the business world.


No ones going to pay $700 dollars for an off contract iPhone to use for businesses. its just too expensive, it isn't in Apple's best interest to have businesses buying used iPhones from resellers either. They make no profit.


They screw this up, then it gives Android a big push into the mobile business market. Right now most are iOS.


I actually haven't seen any Android business apps.
 
If they make a new iPod Touch this year, then they would probably put at least an A8 in it.
Actually, I think they will release it in July 14, right before there's an A9 chip out there so they can continue with their iPod touch being one A-chip version behind (even if it's only for essentially two months).
 
I'm thinking they wouldn't release a real picture of the actual updated device before launch...how many times have they done that? Rather this is a tease, a hint, a clue, for the new pods that will be out on the 14th...
 
thats a great improvement.

A6 Chips with 1GB of ram is going to do wonders for developers trying to optimize basically EVERYTHING for the iPod 5th Gen.


trying doing a search on textDidEdit. Its unworkable. They need the iPod Touch if not consumers then solely for a cheaper option to use a handheld device in the business world.


No ones going to pay $700 dollars for an off contract iPhone to use for businesses. its just too expensive, it isn't in Apple's best interest to have businesses buying used iPhones from resellers either. They make no profit.


They screw this up, then it gives Android a big push into the mobile business market. Right now most are iOS.


I actually haven't seen any Android business apps.

Problem is, I don't know if anybody's going to spend $300 for an A6 device either.

What industry do you work in to not have seen any Android business apps?

I hear the Android hardware being more diverse, and cheaper to boot has gotten some folks to go with that.
 
The smartest option Apple has is the one requiring the least effort possible to keep the iPod touch running the latest OS for the longest time.

They will leave the basic iPod touch 5 design, and include the A7 (first 64 bit chip) from the iPhone 5s.

Apple will not include the A8 chip; it has never been optimized for a 4in screen.

After the iPhone 6s launch, this means currently sold iOS processors will all be 64 bit, running variations of the A7, A8, and A9 processor.
 
Problem is, I don't know if anybody's going to spend $300 for an A6 device either.

What industry do you work in to not have seen any Android business apps?

I hear the Android hardware being more diverse, and cheaper to boot has gotten some folks to go with that.




you mean $200 (given the base price will be the same)


I haven't seen many, Of course I've seen maybe 2-3 in my life compared to thousands on iOS. Mostly in third world countries.


Diversity is more so the OS then the physical device. But as far as I've seen i have there isn't anything really limited.


but honestly i haven't seen any limitations at all. because a true B2B app is going to have everything handle on its own front end and send it directly to the main system.

rather then use a 3rd party app. so there isn't any OS/Flash/formatting limitations.



and you have only what 3-4 screen sizes. which is really easier to maintain then android devices. Although the auto screen sizing isn't extremely difficult, it just doesn't look pretty in a lot of cases.


Our main system caters to the fashion industry, so going with apple was a no brainer. Having apple products just give off a better first impression as a company to your customers (in our case it would be our customer's customers)


1. They look much nicer the androids generally, and they give off a much better impression of your company, one apple are known to be "fashionable" (not here to argue this, but the is what apple is universally viewed as compared to other tech companies that manufacture goods), they are more expensive, which tells your customers that you can afford the newest software with the newest devices. blah blah blah, just little first impressions here and there.

Im 26, if i was per say a customer of my customer, i rather be taking orders from younger dudes that have a paperless iPad system, rather then their competitor that are all over 55 and take orders by pen and paper (that causes inevitable human errors, writing down wrong item #, wrong color for the item, etc etc)



2. Easy purchase, they're not going to need to find a specific model or brand within a selection of thousands of android devices (and it does matter because of the "hardware" limitations, Apple you just tell them iPhone or iPad and then what Number (series number)



3. Spyware/Malware, most malware and spyware are on android platforms, i don't know HOW accurate the articles i've read was, but its pretty well known. Pretty much a no brainer decision here if you're developing apps for businesses.


4. I Haven't used Android Studio, but eclipse was horrible. its like comparing a 1988 corolla to a S500 Benz. Xcode is much more modern and comfortable to use.


5. Swift, i believe this is the future



6. Easier sell, Of course our app/software needs to make sense, but when you tell the management and staff they're getting iPads rather then some Android tablet, they're more excited.

iPad Air 2 compared to a plastic samsung tablet, yeah there isn't much to discuss there.




Honestly, I haven't seen ANY Android Business apps in the any 1st world country (born and raised in LA, i go travel to NYC, Shanghai, Chennai (India), every year)

whether it was for airliners, fast-food to high end food, tradeshow for manufacturers, retail (POS and inventory), warehousing,

Its definitely not as common as iOS Business Apps
 
you mean $200 (given the base price will be the same)


I haven't seen many, Of course I've seen maybe 2-3 in my life compared to thousands on iOS. Mostly in third world countries.


Diversity is more so the OS then the physical device. But as far as I've seen i have there isn't anything really limited.


but honestly i haven't seen any limitations at all. because a true B2B app is going to have everything handle on its own front end and send it directly to the main system.

rather then use a 3rd party app. so there isn't any OS/Flash/formatting limitations.



and you have only what 3-4 screen sizes. which is really easier to maintain then android devices. Although the auto screen sizing isn't extremely difficult, it just doesn't look pretty in a lot of cases.


Our main system caters to the fashion industry, so going with apple was a no brainer. Having apple products just give off a better first impression as a company to your customers (in our case it would be our customer's customers)


1. They look much nicer the androids generally, and they give off a much better impression of your company, one apple are known to be "fashionable" (not here to argue this, but the is what apple is universally viewed as compared to other tech companies that manufacture goods), they are more expensive, which tells your customers that you can afford the newest software with the newest devices. blah blah blah, just little first impressions here and there.

Im 26, if i was per say a customer of my customer, i rather be taking orders from younger dudes that have a paperless iPad system, rather then their competitor that are all over 55 and take orders by pen and paper (that causes inevitable human errors, writing down wrong item #, wrong color for the item, etc etc)



2. Easy purchase, they're not going to need to find a specific model or brand within a selection of thousands of android devices (and it does matter because of the "hardware" limitations, Apple you just tell them iPhone or iPad and then what Number (series number)



3. Spyware/Malware, most malware and spyware are on android platforms, i don't know HOW accurate the articles i've read was, but its pretty well known. Pretty much a no brainer decision here if you're developing apps for businesses.


4. I Haven't used Android Studio, but eclipse was horrible. its like comparing a 1988 corolla to a S500 Benz. Xcode is much more modern and comfortable to use.


5. Swift, i believe this is the future



6. Easier sell, Of course our app/software needs to make sense, but when you tell the management and staff they're getting iPads rather then some Android tablet, they're more excited.

iPad Air 2 compared to a plastic samsung tablet, yeah there isn't much to discuss there.




Honestly, I haven't seen ANY Android Business apps in the any 1st world country (born and raised in LA, i go travel to NYC, Shanghai, Chennai (India), every year)

whether it was for airliners, fast-food to high end food, tradeshow for manufacturers, retail (POS and inventory), warehousing,

Its definitely not as common as iOS Business Apps
Ahh, I see. I was thinking enterprise applications where developers create apps for the employees of their own company to use. In that case, they wouldn't need to worry about supporting all sorts of hardware, screen sizes, and OSes since IT gets to make the call on those and have solid control over that. Or working directly with clients, or having developers in-house where they don't need every Android device under the sun. They'll just choose a subset of them and work with those.
 
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Problem is, I don't know if anybody's going to spend $300 for an A6 device either.

What industry do you work in to not have seen any Android business apps?

I hear the Android hardware being more diverse, and cheaper to boot has gotten some folks to go with that.
+1 on what Loon3y said but there's even more to consider.

Data security on iOS seems to be 2nd to none (none that have real market share). Someone could develop on BB, but there doesn't seem to be any price or other advantage.

Apple protects there reputation when it comes to security flaws, whereas Android seems to ignore it.

Apps on iOS run lean and native or close to it. As apps get more advanced, they ask more from the system, running native gives the developer more room to grow before the app becomes too slow.

As far as Swift goes, it's an answer to a question nobody asked.
1. developers already doing native development, already know ObjC.
2. Swift does nothing that can't be done in ObjC.
3. ObjC produces MUCH smaller downloads than bloated Swift.
4. _IF_ Swift is easier to learn (debatable) it won't matter for 2 reasons:

--- a. see 1 above
--- b. most development is more about knowing APIs that connect to databases, sensors, etc... In other words, programming in the language is just flow control logic for most business apps.

Who would stop current development, take the time to learn a new language in hopes that they'll be able to program logic flow faster (or easier)? That's like running a race and 1/2 way thru, going back to the start for a slightly faster pair of running shoes.

There's a reason Apple owns the business tablet market.

Look at all commercial tools (trucks, tools, machines, exercize equipment, etc...) the business always pay more for something more durable that the cheap consumer version. They focus on the long term and trouble free operation.


As for the "web app" vs native, using the device as a way to access the web is a cheap work around. It's like running DOS programs in a Windows OS. People want native, fast, full featured, secure, business apps.

I haven't dug into Android in a few years, but last I checked, they ran apps in a VM and it was dirt simple to steal an app and put someone else name on it. Given Android's slow to non response to developers, it's seems foolish to depend on them to fix things.

Anyone in the game that delivers the tools and platform that Android has, just doesn't want the B2B market. Why should they? They have market share, they ignore profits as Apple is eating everyone's lunch on profits.

Apple hasn't been 1st rate on treatment of all developers, and I favor an less vise-grip control over things, at this point, Apple has the best platform going.
 
+1 on what Loon3y said but there's even more to consider.

Data security on iOS seems to be 2nd to none (none that have real market share). Someone could develop on BB, but there doesn't seem to be any price or other advantage.

Apple protects there reputation when it comes to security flaws, whereas Android seems to ignore it.

Apps on iOS run lean and native or close to it. As apps get more advanced, they ask more from the system, running native gives the developer more room to grow before the app becomes too slow.

As far as Swift goes, it's an answer to a question nobody asked.
1. developers already doing native development, already know ObjC.
2. Swift does nothing that can't be done in ObjC.
3. ObjC produces MUCH smaller downloads than bloated Swift.
4. _IF_ Swift is easier to learn (debatable) it won't matter for 2 reasons:

--- a. see 1 above
--- b. most development is more about knowing APIs that connect to databases, sensors, etc... In other words, programming in the language is just flow control logic for most business apps.

Who would stop current development, take the time to learn a new language in hopes that they'll be able to program logic flow faster (or easier)? That's like running a race and 1/2 way thru, going back to the start for a slightly faster pair of running shoes.

There's a reason Apple owns the business tablet market.

Look at all commercial tools (trucks, tools, machines, exercize equipment, etc...) the business always pay more for something more durable that the cheap consumer version. They focus on the long term and trouble free operation.


As for the "web app" vs native, using the device as a way to access the web is a cheap work around. It's like running DOS programs in a Windows OS. People want native, fast, full featured, secure, business apps.

I haven't dug into Android in a few years, but last I checked, they ran apps in a VM and it was dirt simple to steal an app and put someone else name on it. Given Android's slow to non response to developers, it's seems foolish to depend on them to fix things.

Anyone in the game that delivers the tools and platform that Android has, just doesn't want the B2B market. Why should they? They have market share, they ignore profits as Apple is eating everyone's lunch on profits.

Apple hasn't been 1st rate on treatment of all developers, and I favor an less vise-grip control over things, at this point, Apple has the best platform going.



This,


Swift is easy, but I'm not sure if we should go through with it but the Company Owner is just pushing everyone to swift.


But its some what unstable (bugs in flight test, certain things here and there like light weight core data migration) makes things a living hell.

and there isn't as much help online as much as there is for OBJ-C, not to mention when hiring developers, the owner wants "swift" developers.


But whats the difference as long as it gets the job done? and if it bloats the software obviously that isn't something we would want to do and something i didn't know of.


Our iOS apps are secondary to our main system, but its driving me nuts because, we don't have an army or a department of developers.


Is it safe to just develop in OBJ-C for now? I really don't see the real reason to develop in swift, although i really see the advantages of it.


I hear that almost everyone is going to adopt swift? but I'm not sure.
 
So those who like iPod Touches! Are you happy?

I said there would be an update :D


yes because the current A5 Devices are garbage.

1GB of ram finally, my god. if they had any decency they'd give it 2GB of ram
 
yes because the current A5 Devices are garbage.

1GB of ram finally, my god. if they had any decency they'd give it 2GB of ram

Garbage depends on each person. My iPad 2 is still excellent, and I suspect I will get another year and a half out of it.
 
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