The glossy screen is fantastic

[Gloor]

I'm sitting in that very office right now typing on my iMac and looking at my glossy screen. Looks great. Nothing sucks. No glare. Glossy is better than matte in every way, and I've had both.

Lol, another funny comment.
iMac is higher and therefore its 90 degrees to the table and you still have it in the correct eye level

MB+MPB is a laptop and unless you have it on a stand then the laptop is lower and therefore you need to tilt the screen about 100-120 degrees to get the best eye level angle.

Now, you can clearly see why iMac with glossy has less problems than MB or MBP with glossy. (considering that office has classic ceiling lighting.

 

[Batt]

I also have a 17" MBP GLOSSY. I repeat: Glossy is better than matte in every way.

 

[aristobrat]

Try to WORK with that screen for 10+ hours a day and then tell me how your eyes feel.
Glossy is great for consumers and people who spend 2 hours here 2 hours there but for someone who is staring at the screen for 8-10+ hour a day it is really uncomfortable and really hard for your eyes.

I do log between 8 and 10 hours a day with glossy (as a systems analyst) and have no complaints. It is not uncomfortable nor really hard for my eyes. Do you really think that everyone's eyes act like yours?

 

[Gloor]

I do log between 8 and 10 hours a day with glossy (as a systems analyst) and have no complaints. It is not uncomfortable nor really hard for my eyes. Do you really think that everyone's eyes act like yours?

and do you have office lights or are you lucky enough to have room with good lighting conditions? Because that could be the big difference.

 

[Gloor]

Eye strain (not only my eyes) :


Computer vision syndrome is a condition involving eye strain and fatigue, temporary weak vision, dry, irritated eyes, light sensitivity, and other eyes, vision, and muscular problems that stem from computer use.

It's a common problem. Computer vision syndrome is estimated to be 40 times more common than carpal tunnel syndrome, another health condition affecting computer users.

Glare from surrounding lamps and lights can lead to eyestrain. Removing direct light sources, moving your computer station, or installing blinds, screens, or shades can reduce glare. In addition, reflection also make it difficult to focus and cause eye strain. This can easily be eliminated by using an anti-reflection computer screen.

whole article :

http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/backpain/a/Computer.htm

 

[twotontito]

I just want to say that that comparison picture is absolutely horrible. If you look at the glassy screen, you can see the shadow cuts off on the left side. The glossy reflecting an entirely shaded area, while the glassy is reflecting the sunlit area. How is that a fair comparison?

 

[aristobrat]

and do you have office lights or are you lucky enough to have room with good lighting conditions? Because that could be the big difference.

95% of my time on my computer is in an office with overhead florescent bulbs. During a typical day, I will end up working with people that have desks near windows and also in meeting rooms with art-deco halogen lights hanging (in addition to overhead florescent). If it's nice outside, my colleagues and I will work outside for awhile in a courtyard.

 

[AndyCro]

Ive just moved my glossy laptop screen so it picks up some light

Could only hack it for 5 seconds.

Its very distracting

Matte screens are terrible at reproducing colour for print. They over saturate images

 

[darngooddesign]

Another benefit to the glass screens is that after a year and a half you won't have permanent keyboard scuff marks on the softer matte surface.

 

[ManWithhat]

I never minded the glare . . I just tune it out.

I went to Best Buy and the new MBP screen didn't bother me (even in that harsh lighting).

 

[volcom883]

just a question:
the brighter the less glare right?
but then do i always have to have the brightness of the MBP at full to avoid the glare?

 

[kockgunner]

how does the glass screen compare to the older macbook pro glossy screens?

 

[vkt]

My god - am i in a parallel universe? I've been happily using glossy displays for over 4 years now, professionally in an office environment with bright flourescent ligthing and I have NEVER had a complaint.

Matte screens look diffused and desaturated and blah. But yeah, I am shocked to see somebody who actually bought the thing, tried it with an open mind, and realized there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Make your own decisions people.

 

[itcomic]

My god - am i in a parallel universe? I've been happily using glossy displays for over 4 years now, professionally in an office environment with bright flourescent ligthing and I have NEVER had a complaint.

Matte screens look diffused and desaturated and blah. But yeah, I am shocked to see somebody who actually bought the thing, tried it with an open mind, and realized there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Make your own decisions people.

Agree. Matte screens colour are so desaturated and dull. Its like rainy weather with fog, can't offer the excitement provided by glossy screen (esp the new one, its like super sunshine in summer, which birds are all flying in the sky, the trees and grass are really green, everyone is partying at the beach kind of excitement)

Glossy screen is GORGEOUS and BEAUTIFUL

 

[bcaslis]

My god - am i in a parallel universe? I've been happily using glossy displays for over 4 years now, professionally in an office environment with bright flourescent ligthing and I have NEVER had a complaint.

Matte screens look diffused and desaturated and blah. But yeah, I am shocked to see somebody who actually bought the thing, tried it with an open mind, and realized there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Make your own decisions people.

Here, here! I just can't believe the vehemence the matte people are screaming about. I guess those old CRTs we all used for decades were an illusion?

I went from the 17" hi-res matte to the new 15". Other than wising for a few more pixels I love this screen. Puts the old ones to shame.

 

[mathcolo]

Being a lover of glossy screens, I am happy to see that someone actually LIKES the glossies too! w00t!

 

[Jiten]

Both have their pros and cons of course!

Here's an interesting white paper by Eizo regarding both glossy and matte screens:

http://www.eizo.com/support/wp/pdf/wp_07-001.pdf

 

[bcaslis]

Both have their pros and cons of course!

Here's an interesting white paper by Eizo regarding both glossy and matte screens:

http://www.eizo.com/support/wp/pdf/wp_07-001.pdf

Interesting article. I do agree that both have pluses and minuses. I can't say I agree about the eyestrain. I've never experienced any eyestrain due to a glossy screen.

 

[volcom883]

the brighter the less glare right?
but then do i always have to have the brightness of the MBP at full to avoid the glare?

any person happy with the new glassy screen could answer the question above?
thanks

 

[Jiten]

Interesting article. I do agree that both have pluses and minuses. I can't say I agree about the eyestrain. I've never experienced any eyestrain due to a glossy screen.

Perhaps its a case to case basis. My eyes seem to get quite tired using my glossy screen iMac faster then using my matte screen MBP. However, my girlfriend seem to have no problem with her glossy screens and uses them all day without eye strain.

any person happy with the new glassy screen could answer the question above?
thanks

Not really 100% happy but rather I adapted.

In rooms with good light conditions (her room) and a light colored wallpaper my girlfriend's glossy MBP have few problems with reflections even with the brightness halfway down. Basically the same situation with my Alu iMac - but of course 24 inch screen can be adjusted waaay brighter then the MBP. In the Apple store because of the bright lights the screen still reflects despite of being at full brightness. I also notice that adjusting to the super glossy screen is also partly mental, you just have to learn to tune out the reflections - a bit more effort needed I guess but does not really bother me anymore like it used too.

 

[magallanes]

how does the glass screen compare to the older macbook pro glossy screens?

Like i told in this thread :

http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=3435&p=5

Yes, glassy reflex a lot more in comparison with the previous model.

IMHO
Glassy :awesome for some specific place, stink in the rest of place. (in the store it's looks pretty nasty)
Glossy :fine but with some annoyance in outdoor/direct light places.
Matte :fine in almost every case, also can be calibrate (Spyder).

 

[macDonalds]

Did you see my signature? I also have a 17" MBP GLOSSY. I repeat: Glossy is better than matte in every way.

I'm not arguing that matte is better than glossy. I prefer glossy myself. However, you're acting as if glossy has no glare. That is far from the truth.

 

[Batt]

I'm not arguing that matte is better than glossy. I prefer glossy myself. However, you're acting as if glossy has no glare. That is far from the truth.

What's far from the truth is the way matte lovers like to portray glossy: as a complete disaster that only an idiot could love. Like I've said, I've had both, and matte is no stroll in the park. The reflections are spread around the entire screen and it's virtually unusable outside. Both screens are equally inept at producing colors that can be reliably reproduced on a printer, but glossy looks much better to the eye. And that's why, in my opinion, glossy is better than matte in every way.

 

[MrJingles]

and do you have office lights or are you lucky enough to have room with good lighting conditions? Because that could be the big difference.

See that is really my biggest gripe. If you read just through this thread a lot of comments are along the lines of "Glossy is the best as long as you're not outside, in a well lit office, don't have windows around you otherwise in a well placed location it's fantastic!" or "Yeah there are reflections but if you try for a week you can learn to look past them".

Or you can just use the excellent matte screens and never have a care in the world.

 

[Abstract]

My god - am i in a parallel universe? I've been happily using glossy displays for over 4 years now, professionally in an office environment with bright flourescent ligthing and I have NEVER had a complaint.

Ever carry your desktop around? No? I carry my laptop around, and how usable it is ONLY depends on where you work.

I use my laptop on battery power for 2-3 hours per day, in all sorts of conditions, both indoors and outdoors. I have a glossy screen. Sometimes it's great, and sometimes it sucks. It's only good indoors, or under shade. Overall, I've never been in a situation where glossy is better than matte screens unless the LED and LCD panel being used in the glossy screen IS better. You can't just compare your old matte screen MBP with your new glossy one. Any benefit you get from the new glossy screen is simply due to the inherent difference in screen brightness, colour saturation, contrast of the technology itself. You're comparing apples and oranges. Replace the glass on the new MBP with a matte plastic, and there's no way it'll be less useful or look worse.


It's not because your MBP screen is magical, or that Apple has somehow created a super-reflective glass that, funny enough, doesn't reflect bright light sources behind you. It's impossible, so the only people who could say that the glossy screen is great are those people who don't have a light source directly behind them, whether that light source is a lightbulb or blue sky.