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iGeneo

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Has anyone figured out how to set the time zone for the second time on the GMT watch face?

The description says “the 24 hour outer dial lets you track a second time zone” Choose from a list of cities?

Where?
 

anticipate

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Has anyone figured out how to set the time zone for the second time on the GMT watch face?

The description says “the 24 hour outer dial lets you track a second time zone” Choose from a list of cities?

Where?

You have to long press on the face and the option to change it is in there. It wasn't self evident. It is a list of cities.
 

iGeneo

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You have to long press on the face and the option to change it is in there. It wasn't self evident. It is a list of cities.

Odd.. I am trying to long press, it brings up edit.. can't seem to figure it out from there

Edit: Got it... that is a really odd UI to change the other time zone.... Also, having to press the little check
 
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douglasf13

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Ugh, the worst part of these GMT (and Count Up) faces is that the minute hand is too long actually extends over the GMT "bezel." They should fix that and make it look more like an actual GMT.
 
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iGeneo

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Well.. and to me it doesn't make sense?

Edit: duh... GMT!!! Its been forever since I had a "real" GMT function. Makes sense, it threw me off because I had mine using a 24 hour clock


You are right a well, the minute hand is too long
 

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TwiceNightly

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Why does the two-tone ‘ring’ move around on this face? Is it related to sunrise/sunset?
 

tednol

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Why does the two-tone ‘ring’ move around on this face? Is it related to sunrise/sunset?

My guess is yes which is pretty cool. I've never owned a GMT watch. It appears the red hand is a bit like an hour hand, however rather than completing a 360 degree sweep in 12 hours it instead takes 24 hours to complete the sweep. When you then set the bezel to the desired city, you can read the actual hour in that time zone from the bezel. Sunset in London is at 19:11 today, and the bezel colour changes just after the 19:00 mark.
 

tednol

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What does the red hand signify?

I think it signifies the GMT hour based on a 24 hour sweep. However it's 11:06 GMT as a write this, and on my watch at least it's pointing straight down... so something is amiss in either my understanding or what it is displaying.

I'm in London and because of summer time the local time in GMT+1, wonder if there is some day light saving time shenanigans going on.
 

deep1

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Just to give an example: Local time in London is 12:25 and I set the GMT to India which is 4.30 hrs difference so Close to 5Pm.
GMT hand in red shows time in India as close to 5PM.

To set the second TZ you just press ( not long press) on face on watch and pick other TZ.
 

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tednol

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Just to give an example: Local time in London is 12:25 and I set the GMT to India which is 4.30 hrs difference so Close to 5Pm.
GMT hand in red shows time in India as close to 5PM.

To set the second TZ you just press ( not long press) on face on watch and pick other TZ.


Local time in London was 12:25, but GMT (which I assume is what the red hand should point to given the name of the face) was 11:25 when you took the screen shot. Thanks for sharing this, it seems to confirm that something isn't quite right in how Apple is presenting GMT.
 

iGeneo

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I looked at this and thought for a second it was wrong, PST and BST (8 hour diff) The thing is, you need to make sure you are looking at the small number in the ring. A quick glance looks like LON was 3pm because of the red pointer.

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deep1

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Local time in London was 12:25, but GMT (which I assume is what the red hand should point to given the name of the face) was 11:25 when you took the screen shot. Thanks for sharing this, it seems to confirm that something isn't quite right in how Apple is presenting GMT.

Not quiet, GMT functions allow you to set an additional time zone which in my case I set to India for demo purpose and It showed right time for India, if you want to see GMT time then set the zone to any GMT country.
 

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The red hand is pointing to the current time in whatever your second timezome. It’s not pointing to GMT unless that’s the second time zone you have set.

Apple is paying homage to traditional time keeping devices here, but I find this display a waste of space and slow to evaluate.

Would have been better to have concentric rings, color coded by daylight hours. The outer ring would display your local time zone, inner rings secondary or even tertiary zones. Each of the inner rings is rotated relative to its offset. You could even exploit the former “time travel“ feature by scrolling the crown to see what prospective times would be across your time zones.
 

KeanosMagicHat

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I can see this face being really useful if I’m on holiday in a different time zone and want to have the main face of the watch show the local time but the red hand to show the time back home.
 

tednol

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Ah my mistake, @deep1 I misread your post as you having ND as your home time zone.

So the red hand will always point directly up at midnight in whatever ones local time zone is, and always point straight down at midday. I (incorrectly) thought the positioning of the red hand should be based on GMT regardless of local time zone, with the hour in the second time zone being based on the number in the bezel. I guess this approach would have actually meant the face displayed three zones (local, GMT & other) as opposed to just local and other.
 

iGeneo

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This is the problem with the minute hand overlapping the other time zone red pointer.

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ChuChuRitzy

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This watch face is so wrong on so many levels!! The whole point behind a GMT watch is that GMT is GMT, with the 2nd hour hand pointing to the GMT, and your normal
Hands pointing to the current time zone.. instead Apple decide to rotate the GMT bezel to match your current time zone! It makes no sense! I have sent feedback via Apple website I hope you all do the same so this can be corrected!

the count up watch face is also backwards! on an actual watch with a diving bezel like this, the bezel rotates to set a future time to watch out for eg 10 mins in the future, for example when your oxygen will
run out, so the watch face should actually count DOWN to that point you set with the bezel marker from current your minute hand marker! so disappointed! been waiting literally years for watch faces like this and they get them so wrong! :(
 
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parseckadet

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Ah my mistake, @deep1 I misread your post as you having ND as your home time zone.

So the red hand will always point directly up at midnight in whatever ones local time zone is, and always point straight down at midday. I (incorrectly) thought the positioning of the red hand should be based on GMT regardless of local time zone, with the hour in the second time zone being based on the number in the bezel. I guess this approach would have actually meant the face displayed three zones (local, GMT & other) as opposed to just local and other.

You're still not getting it. If you want to know the time in your local time zone, you read the hands just like you would any other watch face. So at midnight and noon LOCAL time the hour hand will be pointing at 12. The red hand reflects the OTHER time zone you set. So if it's pointing straight up, it is midnight in the OTHER time zone. If it is straight down it is noon in the OTHER time zone. Forget GMT for this face. It's not relevant the way this face is designed, unless you set your OTHER time zone to be GMT.

This watch face is so wrong on so many levels!! The whole point behind a GMT watch is that GMT is GMT, with the 2nd hour hand pointing to the GMT, and your normal
Hands pointing to the current time zone.. instead Apple decide to rotate the GMT bezel to match your current time zone! It makes no sense! I have sent feedback via Apple website I hope you all do the same so this can be corrected!

the count up watch face is also backwards! on an actual watch with a diving bezel like this, the bezel rotates to set a future time to watch out for eg 10 mins in the future, for example when your oxygen will
run out, so the watch face should actually count DOWN to that point you set with the bezel marker from current your minute hand marker! so disappointed! been waiting literally years for watch faces like this and they get them so wrong! :(

On watches with a rotating bezel it can be used both ways. Why apple only chose to implement one of the two I have no idea.

Apple is very clearly impersonating some classic Rolex faces here. In these images you see first the Rolex GMT, followed by the Submariner. They've been selling these for literally decades. Apple made small tweaks, I assume to avoid being sued, but otherwise their takes are nearly identical.
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ChuChuRitzy

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You're still not getting it. If you want to know the time in your local time zone, you read the hands just like you would any other watch face. So at midnight and noon LOCAL time the hour hand will be pointing at 12. The red hand reflects the OTHER time zone you set. So if it's pointing straight up, it is midnight in the OTHER time zone. If it is straight down it is noon in the OTHER time zone. Forget GMT for this face. It's not relevant the way this face is designed, unless you set your OTHER time zone to be GMT.



On watches with a rotating bezel it can be used both ways. Why apple only chose to implement one of the two I have no idea.

Apple is very clearly impersonating some classic Rolex faces here. In these images you see first the Rolex GMT, followed by the Submariner. They've been selling these for literally decades. Apple made small tweaks, I assume to avoid being sued, but otherwise their takes are nearly identical.
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But time only moves in one direction so any bi directional bezel rotating is to set a point in time in the future, unless you have been in a ROTAS security held, invertor machine so you can go backwards
 
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