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Yes, it is a smartphone. Internet, e-mail, full PIM, outrageous price. It's a smartphone. In fact, Apple just released a battery comparison chart comparing it to phones such as the Treo, Blackjack and the N95. If it wasn't a smartphone, they'd be comparing it to crap like the RAZR.

They also compared it to those phones in order to choose ones with less claimed battery life in their brochures. All except the Blackberry have HSDPA broadband internet radios which suck power. The Blackberry actually runs longer than the iPhone but doesn't claim it.

There's so much smoke and mirrors surrounding this introduction, that there's no way I'll get the first version until others have had a chance to check it out.
 
Since when is MMS an obscure feature? Every other phone has it. The Nokia which was free with a contract that I have can do MMS. Why shouldn't a $500 phone be able to do MMS?
Because no one uses it and it's a dying standard? Email is a much better transport mechanism.
You really think the iPhone's going gain enough market share to exceed Windows Mobile (and Blackberry for that matter)? The iPhone is locked, available on a single carrier. WM and BB phones are available on every carrier out there.
Yes. I think the market share of the iPhone will be be similar to that of WM in five years.
Businesses (who are the major buyers of smartphones) aren't going to rush to Cingular to give all of their employees an iPhone. People who wouldn't touch Cingular with a barge pole because they suck so badly aren't going to get an iPhone. WM and BB have been around for years and have already gained a large part of the market and the iPhone's starting from nothing. The iPhone's not going to take their market share. Microsoft and RIM aren't worried. BlackBerries and Windows Mobile offer unparalleled push e-mail that the iPhone will never match. Yahoo? Yeah, that's going to work real well for companies. Give everyone free Yahoo accounts instead of corporate exchange accounts so they can have push on their iPhone. :rolleyes:
A few things here. (1) Cingular is gone. It's AT&T. (2) Apple doesn't care if businesses buy the iPhone, only that someone buys it. If they sell 10 million units, I think they'd be pleased as punch, and especially so if they create new customer demand in the high-end market. You're basing your entire judgement on the very first cell phone and very first version of the OS. As a first shot? This is astonishingly good. And, BTW, I've had push email on my Nokia (not RIM, not WM) for years. It's not a big deal, as I've also had POP and IMAP email arrive about as timely as the spiffy push email. If you poll once every minute or two, push vs. pull doesn't much matter. Pull has worked just fine on every computer I've ever owned, also.
The non-business users are such a small segment of the smartphone market that every single average user who wants a smartphone could buy an iPhone and it still wouldn't even be a drop in the bucket due to the HUGE business market who won't go near the iPhone.
Um, no. The business market is dwarfed by the consumer market. It's a temporary situation that smartphones are considered to be "business and prosumer only". The iPhone will cause consumers to demand these features in other phones.

I think they left a lot out of the Rev. A iPhone. I also think they threw in a ton of stuff that will change the whole usage paradigm. You cannot compare this initial version with established products and then say that Apple screwed up. The fear in the cell phone manufacturing industry is, to me, proof that they got more right than wrong.
 
Very well put. Hopefully as the details come out over the next 10 days, some of the questions will be put to rest. Ultimately, no question will be 100% satisfied until the units are released and being used. The other manufacturers should be afraid of Apple, especially when you look at what they've done to the online music/portable music business.
 
how the hell did this guy even get a job? His article makes numerous claims (leopard is copied from vista, the iphone sucks) that he doesn't even BEGIN to back up. go back to journalism school, bitch.

I agree. I couldn't get through that biased rant disguised as journalism.
 
Not many people I know in Ny state are happy about the iphone using Cingular. We all have Verizon phones. Cingular has horrible coverage around here. Only T-mobile is worse.
 
iPhone update insufficient & gender biased

I want an iPhone with Stylus!!! My husband LOVES his iPhone, but with fingernails, I find it frustratingly difficult to use the keypad. I have an older iPAQ to use for minor online functions, & I don't even need to use it's stylus: just tap with fingernail & it's gold!

So, when my cellphone broke last week, I waited - patiently, G*D**IT! - wishing & hoping that Apple in it's infinite goodness & wisdom would just open up a stylus option when they made the big announcement of 2.0 & 3G today. NO LUCK! :(

Considering ergonomics & user testing studies indicated men & women use their fingers/nails differently Over TEN YEARS AGO, why does Apple persist in this misogyny?
 
I want an iPhone with Stylus!!! My husband LOVES his iPhone, but with fingernails, I find it frustratingly difficult to use the keypad. I have an older iPAQ to use for minor online functions, & I don't even need to use it's stylus: just tap with fingernail & it's gold!

So, when my cellphone broke last week, I waited - patiently, G*D**IT! - wishing & hoping that Apple in it's infinite goodness & wisdom would just open up a stylus option when they made the big announcement of 2.0 & 3G today. NO LUCK! :(

Considering ergonomics & user testing studies indicated men & women use their fingers/nails differently Over TEN YEARS AGO, why does Apple persist in this misogyny?
don't go bringing back 1 year old threads, apple got rid of the stylus for a reason, if you don't like it, don't buy it
 
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