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Apple has done numerous times in the past to disrupt the tech world, and this time I firmly believe they will destroy desktop operating system as a whole when the opportunity presents itself. Even in the business world, good PCs aren’t cheap, let alone Mac. While Windows has Linux to contend with for desktop OS market share, macOS is just, macOS. Apple can kill it and phase out Mac. It’s not like there will be tons of folks installing Linux natively on their macintosh anyways. When iPadOS is versatile enough to cover most (98%) needs, macOS would at best be phased out from consumer market, and iOS would run on all Apple computing devices.
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It is just that the iPad has better functionality than Windows, at least from a UX point of view. In the case of the Surface, you can be productive if you beat Windows into submission until it breaks and bricks itself with an update.
If iPad has better functionality for you doesn't means is has better functionality for everyone. Millions of people, from students to professionals, use Windows and MS Office for productivity tasks. Even Apple knows this. Some years ago Schiller presented MS in keynote saying "“Who to know better about productivity than Microsoft?”.

I work with Windows in a daily basis and do not need to beat it into submission, and from what I remember, the last update the bricked my device was with Windows 7. No issues at all with Windows 10 / 11.
 
If iPad has better functionality for you doesn't means is has better functionality for everyone. Millions of people, from students to professionals, use Windows and MS Office for productivity tasks. Even Apple knows this. Some years ago Schiller presented MS in keynote saying "“Who to know better about productivity than Microsoft?”.

I work with Windows in a daily basis and do not need to beat it into submission, and from what I remember, the last update the bricked my device was with Windows 7. No issues at all with Windows 10 / 11.
They do, but with the last organization that I was issued a Windows device I just turned it off and used my iPad. I upgraded from Windows to the iPad fourteen years ago and I have never looked back. Microsoft knows nothing about productivity and as a UX expert, the only changes to Microsoft Office since the 1997 release has been to change the interface and move things around. I am glad that you have no issues, but I will not be downgrading from the iPad back to Windows.
 
They do, but with the last organization that I was issued a Windows device I just turned it off and used my iPad. I upgraded from Windows to the iPad fourteen years ago and I have never looked back. Microsoft knows nothing about productivity and as a UX expert, the only changes to Microsoft Office since the 1997 release has been to change the interface and move things around. I am glad that you have no issues, but I will not be downgrading from the iPad back to Windows.
Good that it works for you, but it doesn't mean it works for everyone, me included. MS has a lot of experience with productivity. Even Apple admit it in their keynote. And I trust Apple more than you as an "UX expert". There is no need for me to downgrade from Windows and macOS to iPad for productivity tasks. And I'm not alone on this.
 
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I have 27 years of using Microsoft Office so Phil Schiller has his point of view as well. I am a UX expert as well as a productivity expert so I know more than an executive about productivity.
I’ve been using productivity apps since the late '90s, starting with WordPerfect and Lotus 1-2-3, and switched to Microsoft Office over 30 years ago when they released v4.0. So yeah, I’m definitely no stranger to productivity tools either.

Also, it’s worth noting that Schiller’s comment about Microsoft’s productivity wasn’t just a random opinion, it came during an Apple keynote, and Microsoft was invited by Apple itself because of their long-standing experience in that space. I agree with Apple about MS being a productivty expert, and I trust them more over your UX / productivity experience. :)
 
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Good that it works for you, but it doesn't mean it works for everyone, me included. MS has a lot of experience with productivity. Even Apple admit it in their keynote. And I trust Apple more than you as an "UX expert". There is no need for me to downgrade from Windows and macOS to iPad for productivity tasks. And I'm not alone on this.
When it comes to enterprise computing, i agree iPadOS is no match for macOS & Windows. For home computing, I much prefer iPadOS
 
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I’ve been using productivity apps since the late '90s, starting with WordPerfect and Lotus 1-2-3, and switched to Microsoft Office over 30 years ago when they released v4.0. So yeah, I’m definitely no stranger to productivity tools either.

Also, it’s worth noting that Schiller’s comment about Microsoft’s productivity wasn’t just a random opinion, it came during an Apple keynote, and Microsoft was invited by Apple itself because of their long-standing experience in that space. I agree with Apple about MS being a productivty expert, and I trust them more over your UX / productivity experience. :)
I have used productivity applications since the late 1980s with WordPerfect 5.1 on DOS and Lotus 1-2-3 and switched to Microsoft Office with Microsoft Word 2.0 and Excel 4.0 for Windows. Yes, I can understand that the comment was at an event after Microsoft gave them $150 million, so it was probably partially responsible for the comment. I disagree completely with Microsoft being a productivity expert for quite some time. Back with Word 2.0 and Excel 4.0, they were better than the competition at the time. You can trust who ever you wish, but this is what I have done for the better part of thirty years while programming, administration, and Cybersecurity. You can choose what you wish, it does not make you any more correct. The truth is that if Apple really felt this way, Apple iWork would have never existed.
 
Good that it works for you, but it doesn't mean it works for everyone, me included. MS has a lot of experience with productivity. Even Apple admit it in their keynote. And I trust Apple more than you as an "UX expert". There is no need for me to downgrade from Windows and macOS to iPad for productivity tasks. And I'm not alone on this.
It would be an upgrade and you really know that. Windows and Office is really productive for malware authors, I do agree. I look forward to putting them into prison ever chance I get!
 
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I have used productivity applications since the late 1980s with WordPerfect 5.1 on DOS and Lotus 1-2-3 and switched to Microsoft Office with Microsoft Word 2.0 and Excel 4.0 for Windows. Yes, I can understand that the comment was at an event after Microsoft gave them $150 million, so it was probably partially responsible for the comment. I disagree completely with Microsoft being a productivity expert for quite some time. Back with Word 2.0 and Excel 4.0, they were better than the competition at the time. You can trust who ever you wish, but this is what I have done for the better part of thirty years while programming, administration, and Cybersecurity. You can choose what you wish, it does not make you any more correct. The truth is that if Apple really felt this way, Apple iWork would have never existed.
Just to clarify, I actually used WordPerfect 5.1 and Lotus 1-2-3 for DOS when they were released in the 1980s, not the 1990s.

As for the Apple keynote mentioning Microsoft, they didn’t need to invest $150 million to recognize that Microsoft is the leader in productivity software. Apple made a fair and accurate comment, and most people, students, businesses, and enterprises, would agree. It’s totally fine if you don’t. And iWork apps existed when Apple made the comment. They just know MS does better than them in productivity. I think it's nice that Apple told the truth.

The iPad might be a great productivity tool for you, and that’s totally fine, but it just doesn’t work for me, and I know I’m not alone in that. You seem to think I made the wrong call, but you don’t know my workflow or what I need day to day. Right now, iPadOS just doesn’t cut it for what I do. Maybe that’ll change in the future, and if it does, I’ll gladly reconsider. But at this point, switching to iPadOS would be a step backward for me because of its limitations. Also, Microsoft and Apple have been in this game for over 50 years, 20 more than your experience, so I’ll keep trusting their direction over individual opinions like yours.
 
It would be an upgrade and you really know that. Windows and Office is really productive for malware authors, I do agree. I look forward to putting them into prison ever chance I get!
iPadOS is more like a downgrade for me. It might be an upgrade for others, like you, but it doesn’t suit my needs or workflow at all.

On the bright side, I’ve been virus-free since Windows XP, (or maybe Windows 7) so I'm good.
 
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Just to clarify, I actually used WordPerfect 5.1 and Lotus 1-2-3 for DOS when they were released in the 1980s, not the 1990s.

As for the Apple keynote mentioning Microsoft, they didn’t need to invest $150 million to recognize that Microsoft is the leader in productivity software. Apple made a fair and accurate comment, and most people, students, businesses, and enterprises, would agree. It’s totally fine if you don’t. And iWork apps existed when Apple made the comment. They just know MS does better than them in productivity. I think it's nice that Apple told the truth.

The iPad might be a great productivity tool for you, and that’s totally fine, but it just doesn’t work for me, and I know I’m not alone in that. You seem to think I made the wrong call, but you don’t know my workflow or what I need day to day. Right now, iPadOS just doesn’t cut it for what I do. Maybe that’ll change in the future, and if it does, I’ll gladly reconsider. But at this point, switching to iPadOS would be a step backward for me because of its limitations. Also, Microsoft and Apple have been in this game for over 50 years, 20 more than your experience, so I’ll keep trusting their direction over individual opinions like yours.

As much as I love my iPad Pro/iPad OS and its ability to replace my laptop for over three years now, I am still an diehard MS Word and Excel user. I agree with you 100% that this is all subjective according to any given individual's needs and experience....which I don't think some people understand, or want to acknowledge. Truth be told, I did a search of office and productivity apps by market share, and iWork doesn't even make a blip on the radar....with less than 1% market share. I am surprised that Apple even puts the $$, effort, and manpower into developing it. Google Workspace is actually ahead in this arena, with Office 365 in second place.

"Apple's iWork suite has a market share of approximately 0.1%. Within the specific context of the Mac platform, iWork accounted for 17.4 percent compared to Microsoft Office's approximately 82 percent."


 
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As much as I love my iPad Pro/iPad OS and its ability to replace my laptop for over three years now, I am still an diehard MS Word and Excel user. I agree with you 100% that this is all subjective according to any given individual's needs and experience....which I don't think some people understand, or want to acknowledge. Truth be told, I did a search of office and productivity apps by market share, and iWork doesn't even make a blip on the radar....with less than 1% market share. I am surprised that Apple even puts the $$, effort, and manpower into developing it. Google Workspace is actually ahead in this arena, with Office 365 in second place.

"Apple's iWork suite has a market share of approximately 0.1%. Within the specific context of the Mac platform, iWork accounted for 17.4 percent compared to Microsoft Office's approximately 82 percent."


Microsoft forced me to use Apple iWork. In that time since, Microsoft finally brought Office to iOS & iPadOS. I understand that not many people use the software, but I choose my software based on what is most efficient and effective for my work tasks. I will never pay a subscription for access to Microsoft Office and I will NEVER use Google Workspace (mainly I do not accept their terms and conditions and I it is even further sub par than using something like OpenOffice or LibreOffice). It took me a while to learn how to become effective using Apple iWork whereas I had decades of experience and knowledge of using Microsoft Office. I have access to Microsoft 365 (two accounts), but I only use OneDrive and email from one account and the email from the other. For email, I use the native Mail, Calendar, Reminders, Notes, and Contacts as Outlook is too bloated and messy, which is ironic because I have used Outlook since Outlook 98 until my upgrade from Windows to Macintosh. Today, I can do everything faster in Apple iWork than I can using Microsoft Office with the same quality of work. When needing to share documents with Microsoft Office users (rare these days), I can send Microsoft Office formatted files to them or upload & share with Microsoft OneDrive. I really wish that Microsoft would make OneDrive work as well as iCloud Drive for storage, especially on the iPad & iPhone. Most people only use what they have been taught to use and do not look any further, even if a better option is available. Through school they are taught to use Google's stuff and continue to use the stuff even when they have a Microsoft 365 account that they pay for through tuition. There is functionality that Microsoft Office has that is not available in iWork, but 99.9% of the people that pay for Microsoft Office do not use that functionality.
 
iPadOS is more like a downgrade for me. It might be an upgrade for others, like you, but it doesn’t suit my needs or workflow at all.

On the bright side, I’ve been virus-free since Windows XP, (or maybe Windows 7) so I'm good.
I never got viruses on Windows 3.1, Windows 95, 98, ME, XP, and 7. I upgraded from Windows to Macintosh after Windows 7 and PtoVed my Windows 7 machine when I upgraded. The main reason that the iPad mainly fits my workflow is because 99.999% of my work involves accessing websites for work and even the pathetic Chromebooks are up for that. The very few times where Windows has been required, I was able to remote access a virtual desktop, but nothing for daily productivity required Windows explicitly. I used to have remote access enabled on the Mac mini that I had, but I never accessed the computer remotely so I stopped doing that because the iPad provided 100% of what I needed to accomplish while away from my home office and the desktop computer.
 
I never got viruses on Windows 3.1, Windows 95, 98, ME, XP, and 7. I upgraded from Windows to Macintosh after Windows 7 and PtoVed my Windows 7 machine when I upgraded. The main reason that the iPad mainly fits my workflow is because 99.999% of my work involves accessing websites for work and even the pathetic Chromebooks are up for that. The very few times where Windows has been required, I was able to remote access a virtual desktop, but nothing for daily productivity required Windows explicitly. I used to have remote access enabled on the Mac mini that I had, but I never accessed the computer remotely so I stopped doing that because the iPad provided 100% of what I needed to accomplish while away from my home office and the desktop computer.
Good that iPad works for you! That doesn't mean it works for everyone, or that you cannot be productive with other apps or devices.
 
Good that iPad works for you! That doesn't mean it works for everyone, or that you cannot be productive with other apps or devices.
It would work for about 90% of the people out there. One with some esoteric requirements would the iPad not work. Software development (mainly because the development environments are not available), system administration (could work with remote access availability), and product demonstrations where internet access would not be available is about the only scenarios where there are not native iPadOS applications available. R would be a nice application to be ported over to iPadOS, but larger datasets would be an issue due to only 8 GB or 16 GB of memory available on the iPad.
 
It would work for about 90% of the people out there. One with some esoteric requirements would the iPad not work. Software development (mainly because the development environments are not available), system administration (could work with remote access availability), and product demonstrations where internet access would not be available is about the only scenarios where there are not native iPadOS applications available. R would be a nice application to be ported over to iPadOS, but larger datasets would be an issue due to only 8 GB or 16 GB of memory available on the iPad.
It's your opinion, not a fact.
 
And it is just only an opinion that it does not meet the needs of 90% of people, and I was being generous with that estimate.
What is fact, is what can be backed up by receipts and statistics. Everything you've said so far is your subjective opinion that pertains to only your personal experiences and preferences. 90% of people may be able to use an iPad for their home or personal use....but 90% of professionals? I would be surprised if even 50% of professionals could use only an iPad for their work. Until you can show receipts, it is nothing more than an opinion.

You lack respect for other people's experiences and use cases. You totally dismiss what others have shared in their attempts to make iPad their only device. You totally dismiss their concerns and the shortcoming they have found in their own personal journey with the iPad, and even the business software they use on it. Apple made iWork as an option for people who just needed an easy to use alternative to MS Office. It was never going to be a replacement for the vast majority, and time has proven that. Even on Apple devices, over 80% of people still use MS Office.

I applaud you on all your academic accomplishments but you still fail at common sense, respect, good listening skills, and the ability to read the room you are in. People here have had supreme patience with you, but you still show disregard and disdain, and a huge lack of courtesy for other people's needs and experiences. Just give people the credit and courtesy to know their own needs, and it will be returned in kind. I am very glad that the iPad works so well for all your needs, but you sir….are the only one you can speak for.😉
 
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