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What's wrong with the UI?

I guess simple, easy to understand UI sucks. That's why the iPhone has done so horribly the past few years. ;)

ugh so its better to have a complicated UI like (cough) android? OMG i wanted to smash my htc phone against the wall
 
just the best.......

it just works, and fast, even with 512ram...

only exists two kinds of phones
The iPhones
and the others :-D
 
2nd of all the iPhone 4S's ram is clocked at 533mhz.
IDIOTS, READ THE WIKIPEDIA! IT SAYS 512MB RAM on the IPHONE! :mad:
 
I'll take 512 MB's of fast ram over 1 GB of slow RAM any day of the week.

RAM bandwidth is rarely the bottleneck. The RAM speed impacts different things too. Faster RAM won't help much with heavy multitasking or other RAM heavy usage. You simply need more space to fit more data, swapping is always slower.

Basically, what will a fast SSD do better than a slow HD if you can't fit the file in the SSD but you can in the HD? Speed and capacity are two very different things and when it comes to RAM, I prefer the latter.
 
I am disappointed because I want the iPhone 4S to be a little more future proof.
 
I love how people miss the point, sure the operating system (ios) will run just snappy with 512mb but its apps that will have to work within the tight limitations of the iphones hardware.

The iPhone 4S is even more "boring" of an upgrade than it was previously thought.

Game consoles have had less ram and no one has complaints about their performance.

Reason android has more ram is that the multitasking is crap and carriers have all kinds of apps running in the background for no reason
 
hm. I was hoping for 1 gig. Skype seems to occationally be dying on me even if i have it set as "allways on" in preferences, and I was kinda thinking more ram would fix this. Oh well, Im getting a 4S either way. Hopefully Apple translates Siri into more languages soon.
 
If you are a spec monger you should really not be buying iPhones. Samsung, HTC and Motorola push the specs on their phones much more. If all you care about is a higher number then they will feed your hunger. Not only will their numbers be higher but they will release a phone with a higher number every month to 2 months.

What does more RAM actually mean to people? Conceptually most of you probably don't even understand how RAM works. I can give you a phone with 4 gigs of RAM. Does it make it a better phone? No.
 
Apple has always been stingy with RAM--whether it's in their computers or iStuff. And when they have offered extra RAM on their computers they gouge for it. I have no idea why they do this or why they have such an aversion to increasing the memory capacity of their devices when the costs clearly drop every year while the necessity of the boost goes up every year.

I'm sure they do it specifically to piss you off.
Couldn't have anything to do with power, space or cost, could it?
Nah... probably just because they're evil.
 
As a developer who works with HTML5 canvas, I was hoping for a performance improvement over the iPad2. Sadly, in this context the iPad does not "work great" at all, its performance is quite terrible.
Really? You're writing web pages that are too demanding for an iPad2? Sounds like whatever you're creating really doesn't fit the intent of a web page. Are you trying to use HTML5 in lieu of Flash/native to create a rich web app? That has failure written all over it (based on the fact that my company tries this same crap and can't understand why it fails).

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I think it's good that the 4S has the same RAM as the iPad2 and 4 just because it keeps developers wrangled in. They can't just get sloppy with memory usage, and it encourages their apps to remain compatible with older generations of iOS hardware. The huge advantage of iOS is that it isn't very fragmented, but that wouldn't be the case if the latest apps only worked on the latest hardware.
 
Wanting more RAM in these things isn't just "spec mongering." More RAM may not be necessary NOW, but people want it for forward compatibility.

It will likely make a huge difference when (hypothetically) iOS 7 come out alongside the iPhone 6S, which has 1GB of RAM, and all of a sudden a whole lot of apps need it.

The only reason the first gen iPad can't run iMovie, remember, is because of RAM. (Well, technically, it's because Apple doesn't allow it, since it CAN run iMovie. But the reason Apple doesn't allow it is that it doesn't run well enough, because of the limited RAM.)
 
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Do you really, really care what someone else does?

What are you talking about? I was addressing the person who was claiming that the poster was using sarcasm. I didn't comment on the post he was quoting about the guy switching phones.
 
Wanting more RAM in these things isn't just "spec mongering." More RAM may not be necessary NOW, but people want it for forward compatibility.

It will likely make a huge difference when (hypothetically) iOS 7 come out alongside the iPhone 6S, which has 1GB of RAM, and all of a sudden a whole lot of apps need it.

The only reason the first gen iPad can't run iMovie, remember, is because of RAM. (Well, technically, it's because Apple doesn't allow it, since it CAN run iMovie. But the reason Apple doesn't allow it is that it doesn't run well enough, because of the limited RAM.)
More RAM creates more hardware fragmentation. The iPhone 5 will get more ram as will the iPad 3. If the iPhone 4s had more RAM the gap between the 3gs and the 4s would be bigger than it already is.
 
What does it matter if its 512 1028 or 768. Isnt the user experience what matters? If they optimized their OS so much that it can run everything faster on 256 and lowered it on the 4s. I dont give a ****. Am I alone in this?

I don't think anyone would disagree.

But the problem is the real world examples of where 512MB isn't enough, such as the performance drop in Infinity Blade under the iOS5GM, which appears to be hamstrung by lack of RAM, not processor speed.

Phazer
 
I find it hard to believe that a currently purchased iPad would not have the current features when they now have the exact same hardware. Apple has been douchey about this stuff in the past, but would they really go this far?

Yes....

Apple has a history of artificially limiting hardware through software lockouts.
(MacPro graphics support | iBook mirror/dual screen etc... )


If indeed the fabled 'Retina display' doesn't make it into iPad 3, they will need some software feature to compensate for the lack of major hardware revision and in this instance Siri for iPad 3 would make perfect sense.

Get enough people to start talking about it in the iPhone 4S, start wanting it in their current iPad hardware, so that when you release your next hardware you can add it and say it's all new important revision/upgrade even if hardware wise the revision is not as people expected (much like the 4S itself).



As for the issue of Ram, as long as the multi-tasking works for the most part and software all works without having to close applications and manually run task managers to free up ram (which after using a SGS2 for the last few months has become an OCD thing despite it have 1gb) then people won't care other than for spec whoring.
 
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