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The iPhone 5 resolution will change
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You (and many others) are not getting the fact that it would be a significant strain of the CPU / GPU to scale by any factor other than an integer because there would have to be interpolation of the color of the pixels that don't compute to integer values with the conversion.
And that integer is from the CURRENT pixel resolution, not the original one, as many developrs have converted over to the current resolution as the native value for their apps.
And of course I'm talking about apps that would not be redesigned natively for the new resolution, which will be a LOT of them.
Read that three times before you comment. This is fact.
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App developers didn't know about iPhone 4's retina display until it was announced 2.5 weeks prior to retail availability. Although I too think iPhone 5 will maintain iPhone 4's screen size and resolution, Apple can introduce new screen for the new phone.
When and if new screen size is unveiled, my guess is that the screen will merely become taller (or wider, if you are landscape oriented) to gain extra pixels above and/or below the current 3.5" area. For instance, 4" 1138x640 (about half an inch taller) from iPhone 4's 960x640.
As nice as it would be to have this resolution, I would be afraid that it would cause unnecessary gpu strain and take a hit on battery life (although if I'm wrong about those two points, then this would be a great setup).
They could artificially limit the resolution of the iPhone apps on the iPad like they do now. The iPhone apps aren't running at the full 960x640 resolution on the iPad for the very reason you stated.
My favorite solution Iv read on here so far is to put in a 720p screen and then put a black border around the Apps that use the current retina display resolution. The black border would be small and since its an edge to edge screen you wouldn't notice it that much. Then, as Devs get ready, they can upgrade their apps for this new iPhone display. Movies would look gorgeous, browsing would be amazing, the whole experience would be....magical
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If they increase the screen size, it will be proportional so current apps can just be automatically scaled up. Then as developers update their apps, they can do what the want with the extra space. Simple as that.
Your analogy does suck because Apple never quoted or promised developers any screen size or resolution to last forever. Your comment about the screen size changing isn't a difficult concept to grasp, so the analogy wasnt even needed in the first place.
If they increase the screen size, it will be proportional so current apps can just be automatically scaled up. Then as developers update their apps, they can do what the want with the extra space. Simple as that.
Your analogy does suck because Apple never quoted or promised developers any screen size or resolution to last forever. Your comment about the screen size changing isn't a difficult concept to grasp, so the analogy wasnt even needed in the first place.
Very authoritative yet no source. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Not to mention Apple can no longer rest on it's name to sell its products. So many amazing phones out there people will start converting. And you really think an extra ~5 months will result in a little upgrade. I'll just assume your stuck in a contract and don't want the iPhone 5 to blow the iPhone 4 out of the water. And at this point it has to.
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An increase in screen size would not affect developers. Its an increase in resolution that would.
I have a hard time believing that they're just gonna rip out the A4, drop in an A5 and call it a day.
How are they going to even advertise these if that's all that's changed?
How are they going to even advertise these if that's all that's changed?
The 'new and improved' iPhone 4! It's so fast you won't believe it! *all fanboys go out to buy it*I have a hard time believing that they're just gonna rip out the A4, drop in an A5 and call it a day.
How are they going to even advertise these if that's all that's changed?
OP and thetexan are spot on except for one thing - I don't see it coming to T-Mobile. Not enough evidence of it this late in game. Adding Sprint this year will be the 4S's big hype.
What do you think the iPhone 5 screen size and resolution will be?
I have been thinking about the screen size and resolution of the iPhone 5. My assumption is that the case designs are accurate. If so, then from the pictures the phone will be roughly 2.6" x 4.7". If the screen is "edge to edge" as many have claimed then we could see a screen that is 2.4" - 2.5" wide. Keeping with the iPhone 1.5 aspect ratio the screen would be between 4.3" - 4.5".
If we see a 4.3" - 4.5" screen with the same 960 x 640 resolution then the PPI will drop significantly (~255-265). I think Apple will keep the identical PPI as the iPhone 4. I would expect this to be the easiest thing for Apple to do; just use the same screen technology, but make it bigger. If they keep the same PPI as the iPhone 4 we get the most logical resolution of 1200 x 800 with a screen that is 2.43" wide by 3.65" with a screen size of 4.38" (they say 4.4").
As for compatibility of old apps I think the old 960 x 640 apps will just be centered with black around the edges. Also iPad apps could run on the this which much smaller black borders around the edges as well.
What do you guys think the screen size and resolution will be?
I have been thinking about the screen size and resolution of the iPhone 5. My assumption is that the case designs are accurate. If so, then from the pictures the phone will be roughly 2.6" x 4.7". If the screen is "edge to edge" as many have claimed then we could see a screen that is 2.4" - 2.5" wide. Keeping with the iPhone 1.5 aspect ratio the screen would be between 4.3" - 4.5".
If we see a 4.3" - 4.5" screen with the same 960 x 640 resolution then the PPI will drop significantly (~255-265). I think Apple will keep the identical PPI as the iPhone 4. I would expect this to be the easiest thing for Apple to do; just use the same screen technology, but make it bigger. If they keep the same PPI as the iPhone 4 we get the most logical resolution of 1200 x 800 with a screen that is 2.43" wide by 3.65" with a screen size of 4.38" (they say 4.4").
As for compatibility of old apps I think the old 960 x 640 apps will just be centered with black around the edges. Also iPad apps could run on the this which much smaller black borders around the edges as well.
What do you guys think the screen size and resolution will be?
Either a 4 or 4.3". To me, the 3.5" is starting to seem a little dated. Maybe they come out with two models like some people have been speculating about.. An iPhone4S with the same 3.5" and the iPhone5 with either a 4 or 4.3" screen. I think Apple would please most people that way.
Who cares that the iPhone 5 will have a 3.5 inch screen, this turns out to be the best solution after all. When in the pocket it takes up minimal room, when out, just fit it with something like that below, and hey presto, a 6 inch screen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDfQyb5XlEg
The retina screen means it can take the increase in size no problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDfQyb5XlEg
The retina screen means it can take the increase in size no problem.
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Haha.. nice youtube post above. All this speculation about a change in screen size does add to the complexity of developing apps to utilize the best features of each device. If the screen does change, how will old apps look on the new phone? Will they stretch to fit and look long and skinny? Just like when they released the retina displays on the 4, Apple will provide a slick way for developers to easily swap out artwork, but if aspect ratio changes, it will be much more complicated than that. Can't wait for an official announcement.
I don't think anyone feels that the iPhone4 is 'broken'. However the problem that I feel is that a 3 1/2 inch screen just doesn't do it for a great many iPhone owners. All you have to do is look at the what seems like 100's of polls posted just on this site on if users want a bigger screen and the answer has been a resounding YES.
Make two versions. If rumors are correct we might just see this. iPhone 4s and 5 (with the 5 having a bigger screen). Then everyone can be happy.
I don't have anything to back this up. Just thinking off the top of my head about a bigger screen and scaling.
Increase everything by 25%
3.5" becomes 4.375
960 x 640 becomes 1200x800
Is this feasible?
Even if this is possible I'm not sure how likely it would be as 4.375 seems pretty big.
Personally, I don't know if I'd want a phone that big. Back in the day when I used to change Windows Mobile phones every couple of months, I always wanted smaller and thinner. My desire was driven by the fact that I'm a phone in the pocket guy and I feel that the balance between size, usability and portability of the current iPhone feels right.
Increase everything by 25%
3.5" becomes 4.375
960 x 640 becomes 1200x800
Is this feasible?
Even if this is possible I'm not sure how likely it would be as 4.375 seems pretty big.
Personally, I don't know if I'd want a phone that big. Back in the day when I used to change Windows Mobile phones every couple of months, I always wanted smaller and thinner. My desire was driven by the fact that I'm a phone in the pocket guy and I feel that the balance between size, usability and portability of the current iPhone feels right.
What ever gave you the impression that we don't "get that fact"? All anyone ever said was that is was possible - would I assume you would agree with, no?
I'm not sure what your point is other than perhaps that the interpolation is too demanding for the A5 which I think you'd have a hard time demonstrating is the case.