Something to think about guys. In essence, the potential iPhone market has doubled. If they release both phones on the same day, the lines could potentially be double as well. I don't see how they could do a dual release...even if that means staggering them by a few days, just to manage the lines.
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The iPhone 5 will be simultaneously released on AT&T and Verizon w/ a trade in option
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If I were apple, I would not release both Verizon and AT&T iphones at the exact same time. Demands are too high. Original iPhone owners were raged as soon as they saw iphone prices drop after 3 months. LTE iphones are still not expected to ship until next year. Simultaneous release is not a good idea. AT&T iphone for June and just drop the price of Verizon iphone to 99/199 dollars.
Just a reminder:
Supposedly Apple had to share their future device plans with Verizon.
So a new model in the summer should not be a surprise to them, and if there is one, I'm sure they'll want it.
Other manufacturers pump out new models all the time. Perhaps Apple will be able to move quicker now that they have a couple of factories building their phones (Pegatron and Foxconn).
Supposedly Apple had to share their future device plans with Verizon.
So a new model in the summer should not be a surprise to them, and if there is one, I'm sure they'll want it.
Other manufacturers pump out new models all the time. Perhaps Apple will be able to move quicker now that they have a couple of factories building their phones (Pegatron and Foxconn).
Well, I think that one simple reason why Apple most likely will release the iPhone 5 for Verizon and AT&T at the same time is to make more money. Bigger launch day. Besides, Apple realizes that AT&T lost a lot of customers to Verizon, and might continue to lose them. It would also be easier for them to just sell the new hardware and not have to carry around the iPhone 4 for Verizon and the new iPhone 5 for AT&T. I just can't see Apple doing that.
Something you seem to be missing is maybe Apple will push back the release not "for the sake of Verizon", but because they simply need/want to push back the release.
Model updates get delayed all the time, for all sorts of reasons. Yes, Apple has had a very good track record with the iPhone, but we're also only a few revisions in. There's no reason to expect the same product cycle to continue indefinitely.
As Apple has taught us, they release products when they're ready too, not on some preset schedule. Just look at the Mac mini, which went years without an update.
(Granted, cell phones are a bit different, since users are on a fixed upgrade cycle, but still...)
Not that I necessarily expect them to delay the release, but it's certainly possible, and not only to appease Verizon.
Model updates get delayed all the time, for all sorts of reasons. Yes, Apple has had a very good track record with the iPhone, but we're also only a few revisions in. There's no reason to expect the same product cycle to continue indefinitely.
As Apple has taught us, they release products when they're ready too, not on some preset schedule. Just look at the Mac mini, which went years without an update.
(Granted, cell phones are a bit different, since users are on a fixed upgrade cycle, but still...)
Not that I necessarily expect them to delay the release, but it's certainly possible, and not only to appease Verizon.
Wow - so much lunacy in one post. Did you actually stop and consider that many people actually prefer Android over IOS?
Google actually considers Android very important or did you miss articles about it. Actually Android is a cash cow for them. Why does apple go and release their own advertising system? or does Apple live in its own fantasy world too?
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Knowing how anti consumer verizon is I highly doubt they will offer any trade ins for the customers. But I'm sure they will be glad to offer you new iphone at full price. Specially with all the changes that verizon recently implemented to prepare for its iphone release. Everything points to customers getting shafted
Who's getting shafted? You buy a product; it still works when the next model comes out.
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Threat starter wants to put his opinion out there. He did. As I mentioned in another thread, everyone is entitled to their own believes. Only time will tell - even though I think whatever is written in the first post is nothing but manure.
That would be suicide. There is no way Apple is going to let the other guys continue to flood the market with the latest and greatest updated phones while they sit back and wait to sync up with Verizon. Thats just silly.
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It seriously depends on if the new phone is the dual GSM/CDMA like some are predicting, I think
It make alot more sense and cheaper to manufacture just one phone that will work on both network than two seperate phone, and base on that asumption, if the new phone are release to AT&T, why not also release it to verzion, it is all about profit.
So I go with the OP.
So I go with the OP.
It's not a slap in the face. It's a preview. Just like how Verizon got the wifi-only iPad.
Better to get the iPhone 4 and the wifi-only iPad now than to wait until the next model comes out. This is just a token gesture. The real deal is for iPad 2 (which will do CDMA) and the iPhone 5 (which will be universal).
Verizon needs the current products because Apple carries them over as the low-budget option. Verizon wants the iPhone 4 to offer in June/July for only $99. And the iPad wifi for whatever the reduced price will be.
The reason I dont see an ATT only refresh this summer would be due to having different software's for the iphone. I believe there's a summer refresh it's going to be like the iphone 3G to 3GS refresh and iPhone 5 summer 2012 with LTE on both carriers. If it comes sooner, nice! All I know is whatever Verizon provides, I will own.
I doubt either will offer a iPhone 5 at subsidized price for contracted customers unless you're 22 months in. Although, if they did I'd sell my 4 in a heartbeat and come out ahead. Not going to happen, esp for AT&T.
I see an incremental boost on i4 at best. Maybe some jiggering with the antenna and a new IOS with new features. I do not see a great overhaul. Remember that the manufacturers have a lot invested in these manufacturing lines. Changes to the form factor will require expensive changes to the manufacturing process. I think it will be something similar for at least the two years.
CDMA is a new phone for Apple, but this will only have a short life. I think it all sync's up when the LTE versions are brought out.
CDMA is a new phone for Apple, but this will only have a short life. I think it all sync's up when the LTE versions are brought out.
No way Verizon would offer a trade in. They make their money back on the iphone by having people sign up for a contract. Giving the option to trade in an iphone 6 months after paying apple for the devices doesn't make sense, unless they make you sign a 3 year contract to offset the costs
While I enjoy your idea of the trade-in plan, in actuality I doubt it will happen. As others have stated Verizon does not exactly care about its customers, especially now that it acquired the iPhone. Verizon is heading towards the monopoly of the U.S mobile market.
My gut also tells me that the refresh cycles might change. The more I think about it the more I believe that new iPhones will start coming out every Jan/Feb instead of June/July. They will also come out for AT&T and Verizon at the same time.
Then we have the most common theories:
1) iPhone 5 comes out in the summer for Verizon and AT&T with an antenna for both GSM and CDMA.
2) IPhone 5 comes out for AT&T this summer and for Verizon every Jan/Feb.
Regardless, I am ecstatic about getting my iPhone on Feb 10 from Verizon. I have 2 upgrades in the text 8 months so I am set for both the iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 (if it does come out in the summer for Verizon).
My gut also tells me that the refresh cycles might change. The more I think about it the more I believe that new iPhones will start coming out every Jan/Feb instead of June/July. They will also come out for AT&T and Verizon at the same time.
Then we have the most common theories:
1) iPhone 5 comes out in the summer for Verizon and AT&T with an antenna for both GSM and CDMA.
2) IPhone 5 comes out for AT&T this summer and for Verizon every Jan/Feb.
Regardless, I am ecstatic about getting my iPhone on Feb 10 from Verizon. I have 2 upgrades in the text 8 months so I am set for both the iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 (if it does come out in the summer for Verizon).
Just jumping in here...
I don't think it would be any cheaper to make one dual-mode model vs. two models, for several reasons:
1) They'll sell enough of each kind to get good prices on parts already.
2) A dual mode chipset is likely to cost more, plus it might need more amp chips taking up more space.
3) Apple would have to pay license fees for both CDMA and GSM. (Of course, Nokia claims they're not paying all the GSM license fees anyway, so hmm.)
4) Apple really likes their high profit margin.
I'm not saying they won't make a dual-mode phone... heck, I'd love one... but it wouldn't be because it cost less necessarily.
I guess I'll make my prediction. Verizon and At&t will both be on track to get new iPhone models at the same time, maybe a few days or so apart. It would be stupid of verizon to get itself into a deal where it's selling year old technology when it's main competitor has the latest and greatest. No way they will he a year and a half behind the curve. They would have just waited until ip5 if they knew that they wouldnt be able to get the newest hardware when it was available. Not like they are hurting for sales, and they've waited this long, what would be a couple more months. Apple is not going to not realease a device, that would be stupid. No way they are going to let competitors have a full year of putting Devices out un answered. I would think that the mobile phone arena is similar to the rest of the business world, where it's easier to keep a customer than gain a new one. No way apple will let people who want a new device every year go try out another smartphone, as they know it will be harder to draw them back in later.
I agree with you in a sense. Apple will release the product when they are ready and not on vz or att time. At the same time it should be noted apples track record show as of late that they have no problem taking a seat in the back when it comes to the tech race
Exactly. There are plenty of arguments to support the idea that they will follow their yearly release pattern with updated features each time. But at the same time, Apple has shown that they have no problem selling products with underwhelming features when compared to the rest of the business. It would be interesting to see if they focus on another product this year at WWDC (perhaps one of their Mac products), and then leave the next iPhone update for next year entirely. Though I'm not sure that would happen, it's a small possibility.