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The iPhone 6 can't even handle two Safari tabs before refreshing

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saintforlife

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Yeah. The only other apps I had open in the background was YouTube, Starbucks, App Store, Settings and Mail.

What should I make of this? Is this the best we can expect at this time? Will iOS 8.1 update help?
 
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cyb3rdud3

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Zzzzzzzzzzzz :tumbleweed:

Here we go again....then again why not return it and get some thing else?
 
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vgamedude

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Kevitivity said:
It's safari or ios 8. try a different browse. I like Mercury.
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It's not ios 8 , this has happened on every iphone I have used, but to varying degrees.

I've personally only used safari on the 5s though so I can't speak to alternate browsers on that device, but on my 4s I've used mercury, dolphin and a few others and I've always had tab reloading no matter what.

Also lots of crashes on the 4s, I had some crashes on the iPad Air too, and lots of reloads.
 
mtneer

mtneer

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vgamedude said:
Oh god you're right! Wouldn't want someone discussing the iphone on the iphone board would we?!
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There are millions of people trying to enjoy their new phones this weekend. They have waited a long time and paid hundreds of dollars for this. Why rain on their parade with negativity? Apple has a strong reason to believe that 1GB RAM is sufficient, so why keep questioning that?

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iregret

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Jan 23, 2012
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Are we sure this is a ram issue? This might be this way by design. Are there any developers that could comment on this? I know iOS likes to keep a tight hold on memory allocation.

I remember even back when I had my iPhone 3G that often times when I go from one page to another it would reload. Which is quite frustrating if you're in the middle of typing a response. I believe the iPhone 4 acted this way as well as my iPhone 5, with the iPhone 5 not being quite as sensitive.

I got to a point where I would write out my response in notes in it's entirety. Then copy the entire response and paste it into the field where I was replying on the webpage.

I suppose if it had twice the ram maybe this wouldn't be an issue. But I've grown so accustomed to using it that it doesn't really matter to me anymore. I don't know.
 
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cyb3rdud3

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vgamedude said:
Oh god you're right! Wouldn't want someone discussing the iphone on the iphone board would we?!
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It's not that. It just that there are already so many of this thread. Last one the mod had to make a statement to play nicely. And they are filled with misinformation and conceptions.

Yes safari on iOS prefers to reload from source opposed to alternatives (for brevity I won't list them all). It has been like that for ever, new hardware doesn't change that. Heck do you recall that originally the vision was to only have html/cloud apps and nothing locally.

It is what it is and what it had always been.
 
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vgamedude

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mtneer said:
There are millions of people trying to enjoy their new phones this weekend. They have waited a long time and paid hundreds of dollars for this. Why rain on their parade with negativity? Apple has a strong reason to believe that 1GB RAM is sufficient, so why keep questioning that?

This is a major issue that needs to be discussed for people to make an educated decision on purchasing this phone. I'm one of those people, so I will discuss and talk about it. Not just sweep it under the rug and pretend everything's perfect.

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Its a forum about discussion of the iphone where does it say that you have to be all positive smiley happy and not question a thing to not make someone's feelings hurts? That's dumb, I'm not going to control what I'm discussing because it breaks someone's blissful ignorance.

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cyb3rdud3 said:
It's not that. It just that there are already so many of this thread. Last one the mod had to make a statement to play nicely. And they are filled with misinformation and conceptions.

Yes safari on iOS prefers to reload from source opposed to alternatives (for brevity I won't list them all). It has been like that for ever, new hardware doesn't change that. Heck do you recall that originally the vision was to only have html/cloud apps and nothing locally.

It is what it is and what it had always been.
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I haven't seen that many threads on it really. Far more threads are about "OH THE 6+ IZ SO BIG XDDD"
 
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cynics

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Jan 8, 2012
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Regardless of it being a RAM issue or not it's still an issue.

At this point I don't understand why Apple won't fix it.

It's annoying, it uses MUCH more data (relatively speaking), it waste time, it waste battery, you lose information previously input, etc etc.

With iOS 6 I never noticed this. With iOS 7 I'd have to make it happen. With iOS 8 I notice it constantly when using Safari.
 
sunking101

sunking101

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Sep 19, 2013
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mtneer said:
There are millions of people trying to enjoy their new phones this weekend. They have waited a long time and paid hundreds of dollars for this. Why rain on their parade with negativity? Apple has a strong reason to believe that 1GB RAM is sufficient, so why keep questioning that?

/
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Yeah, that strong reason is their hardcore fanbase who will buy *anything* and be 100% happy with it. 1GB of RAM is pathetic and a total dealbreaker for me.
 
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Applefan4

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sunking101 said:
Yeah, that strong reason is their hardcore fanbase who will buy *anything* and be 100% happy with it. 1GB of RAM is pathetic and a total dealbreaker for me.
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You are welcome to move to Android, where the apps and tabs reload in exactly the same manner.
 
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vgamedude

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Applefan4 said:
You are welcome to move to Android, where the apps and tabs reload in exactly the same manner.
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I've only had one android device (note 3) and it didnt. At all.

I had tabs that lasted me to the next day when I was using the phone for other things. I hated lots about android, that definitely wasn't something I hated.
 
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cababah

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mtneer said:
There are millions of people trying to enjoy their new phones this weekend. They have waited a long time and paid hundreds of dollars for this. Why rain on their parade with negativity? Apple has a strong reason to believe that 1GB RAM is sufficient, so why keep questioning that?

/
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Apple does have a strong reason for believing 1GB of RAM is sufficient...it's called maximizing profit margins.

More RAM is always better. It increases the performance capability of the system and gives it a longer lifespan. Apple compromised here and anyone who says otherwise is purely delusional.

The iphone 6 may be OK for now RAM-wise (aside from frequent safari tab and app reloads) but it was already the bottleneck of the hardware a year ago. The A8 is marginally faster than the A7, RAM is the same and the OS keeps getting bigger with real multi-tasking supposedly coming.

:apple: really ********d people over by not putting a proper 2GB in the 6... I guess it makes a compelling case for the 6S next year.

Personally, I refuse to buy the 6 because of the lack of upgraded RAM going on 3 years now. Ridiculous, right? However to me, it really shows how apple is baking a short lifespan into the 6 right out of the gate.

/rant

Applefan4 said:
You are welcome to move to Android, where the apps and tabs reload in exactly the same manner.
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This is a retarded statement that people keep making. Say anything negative about Apple's decisions and get told to jump ship to android. There are a lot of people that prefer ios over android for many reasons (myself included) but it isn't perfect and I think we can all agree more RAM would greatly improve the experience. Nothing wrong with being critical of a product and the decisions made by Apple.
 
sunking101

sunking101

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cababah said:
Apple does have a strong reason for believing 1GB of RAM is sufficient...it's called maximizing profit margins.

More RAM is always better. It increases the performance capability of the system and gives it a longer lifespan. Apple compromised here and anyone who says otherwise is purely delusional.

The iphone 6 may be OK for now RAM-wise (aside from frequent safari tab and app reloads) but it was already the bottleneck of the hardware a year ago. The A8 is marginally faster than the A7, RAM is the same and the OS keeps getting bigger with real multi-tasking supposedly coming.

:apple: really ********d people over by not putting a proper 2GB in the 6... I guess it makes a compelling case for the 6S next year.

Personally, I refuse to buy the 6 because of the lack of upgraded RAM going on 3 years now. Ridiculous, right? However to me, it really shows how apple is baking a short lifespan into the 6 right out of the gate.

/rant



This is a retarded statement that people keep making. Say anything negative about Apple's decisions and get told to jump ship to android. There are a lot of people that prefer ios over android for many reasons (myself included) but it isn't perfect and I think we can all agree more RAM would greatly improve the experience. Nothing wrong with being critical of a product and the decisions made by Apple.
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This. In a nutshell.
 
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unobtainium

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Mar 27, 2011
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This is consistently the most frustrating thing about iPhone and apple refuses to address it. What a disappointment. In every other way, I'm happy with the 6.
 
GeeSixx

GeeSixx

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I honestly don't see why this is such a big deal! You're not even looking at the page as it refreshes, correct? What's the problem?
 
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newone757

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Apr 5, 2011
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Funny. I have 4 tabs open right now on my plus. No refreshing. Not sure what the problem with yours is.


Kevitivity said:
Try Chrome and get back to us. I've been having issues with Safari on iOS 8
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Yeah that too. I was using chrome last night. had 5-6 tabs with high resolution images (3000+ pixels on the long edge) loaded and no refreshing switching between them.
 
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