The manufacture location is probably the least important element of the product, so I don't really think this is going to make any difference other than transfer low wage jobs back to the US.
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The iPhone 8 redesign is just fantasy
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The manufacture location is probably the least important element of the product, so I don't really think this is going to make any difference other than transfer low wage jobs back to the US.
I already mentioned: you are still "tied down" to a charging pad, and you can't actually pick up and use your phone while charging, which to means you've actually lost some convenience. It's also only used in one place, as you're probably not going to carry the pad around with you. It will also likely be far more expensive than a simple cable, as it almost certainly won't be bundled with the phone.
I know that these issues won't matter to a lot of people, but similarly, the apparently great convenience of not having to stick a cord in the bottom of my phone isn't a very big deal to me. Whatever floats your boat.
Sorry but had to laugh at this. The addition of wireless charging wouldn't mean the removal of traditional wired charging.
Umm the iPhone 5 shape wise was essential identical to 4s materials changed but actual shape and design was the same. iPhone 7 had a whole new color and even finish of the jet black model and antenna lines camera hump changes. The iPhone 7s is coming and will keep the same design
Part of me thinks it will stay the same and be the 7s. Another part is saying it'll be the iPhone 8 with a radical design. What's making me think it'll stay the same is that Apple just applied for home button integration patent. I don't think itll be ready in a year.
I don't know about you, but I can tell an iPhone 5 from a 4/4s at a glance. The change in dimensions and aluminum rather than glass back certainly helps. At a glance, the 6, 6s, and 7 are nearly indistinguishable, especially in a case. Nobody, not even Apple, denies or disputes that this is the first time since the original, 3G, 3GS that there have been 3 consecutive generations without an obvious and instantly recognizable design change. It's highly unlikely they will go 4 years if they want sales to increase. A new colour and different shaped camera doesn't cut it. Externally, the 7 is just the iPhone 6 v3.0, and I'm pretty sure people are ready for something that looks more futuristic, not what they've been seeing since 2013.
I'm not even going to deny it, if the 7 had actually looked different than my 2 year old 6, there's a good chance that would have been the little extra incentive I needed to buy one. If even 1 in 10 customers think like that, that's a lot of sales Apple is missing out on by recycling the basic frame for another year.
So listen to an individual's personal rant, based on his own conjecture....orrrrr, go on what many analysts in the financial industry have already confirmed with multiple sources: that OLED panels have been sourced, and manufacturers are financing switching to OLED manufacturing tech...
Tough decision here...
For me it's less about a sentimental redesign and more about a bunch of things we didn't get in this last model.
At the end of the day I'll buy what I feel is worth my money. The 7 wasn't that. Maybe the next phone will be.
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Folksnwith a desk job might appreciate it.
I've also seen a few vehicles with qi charging built in. I gotta admit it would be convenient just to dock the device and have it charging.
At night I generally set my phone on the nightstand. The charging would be simple and seamless. I guess it's kind of the difference between being able to plug in the power in any orientation versus not. Minor quality of life change.
The real crazy thing is how little space the technology takes up in the devices. They make devices the plug into the lightning port and stick to the back of your phone; most cases even fit on top. The whole thing is about as thin as a vinyl decal.
At the end of the day I'll buy what I feel is worth my money. The 7 wasn't that. Maybe the next phone will be.
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Folksnwith a desk job might appreciate it.
I've also seen a few vehicles with qi charging built in. I gotta admit it would be convenient just to dock the device and have it charging.
At night I generally set my phone on the nightstand. The charging would be simple and seamless. I guess it's kind of the difference between being able to plug in the power in any orientation versus not. Minor quality of life change.
The real crazy thing is how little space the technology takes up in the devices. They make devices the plug into the lightning port and stick to the back of your phone; most cases even fit on top. The whole thing is about as thin as a vinyl decal.
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If the 15 feet away rumor is true (which I really hope it is), I would throw my money at Apple day 1. THAT is innovation... and true wireless charging.
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I agree wireless charging increases simplicity, but how much of a time or simplicity gain is it, for a major material/redesign/other features ignored to focus on wireless charging/dollar cost? I don't think it's anywhere near worth it, at its current state. 15 feet baby...
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I'm guessing the other advantage would be no ports at all. They've removed the headphone jack, they could also remove the charging port and I've heard rumours of losing the home button a la Android.
That would mean no moving parts at all. Totally waterproof?
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From what I've heard in the past, transmitting power is possible, but it's very uneconomical - only a very small amount of energy makes it to the unit compared to what goes into the transmitter.
And I suspect the bits needed inside the phone would be too big and heavy to be worthwhile.
As for innovation, they tried this over a hundred years ago!
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I really do wish the rumours are correct but it seems like Apple do the absolutely bare minimum nowadays.
It's that behaviour that makes me believe they will disappoint again because they have become incredibly incremental in their improvements.
The iPhone isn't exempt from the business philosophy they are adopting.
How many times have we seen an Apple product crying out for an update and it either doesn't happen or it's just a meh update.
The evidence is clear; Mac Pro, Mac mini, iPad mini, MacBook Air, Airports, Thunderbolt Displays, iPods etc. They are happy to MILK every last cent out of every product in spite of consumer demand for updates.
The iPhone SE, another example where they could have done something special with the design but financially it made more sense to use the 5 design.
This is the way they are going. Incremental updates based on maximum return on investment.
Why does any of the behaviour shown over the past 5 years indicate a change in approach is coming? They make improvements to the iPhone 6/6s, call it the 7 and everyone falls over themselves to buy it. Why do they even need to reach for something radical in 2017?
It's that behaviour that makes me believe they will disappoint again because they have become incredibly incremental in their improvements.
The iPhone isn't exempt from the business philosophy they are adopting.
How many times have we seen an Apple product crying out for an update and it either doesn't happen or it's just a meh update.
The evidence is clear; Mac Pro, Mac mini, iPad mini, MacBook Air, Airports, Thunderbolt Displays, iPods etc. They are happy to MILK every last cent out of every product in spite of consumer demand for updates.
The iPhone SE, another example where they could have done something special with the design but financially it made more sense to use the 5 design.
This is the way they are going. Incremental updates based on maximum return on investment.
Why does any of the behaviour shown over the past 5 years indicate a change in approach is coming? They make improvements to the iPhone 6/6s, call it the 7 and everyone falls over themselves to buy it. Why do they even need to reach for something radical in 2017?
Looking at your past post you seem to not be happy with much that Apple does.
Makes one wonder why you have not moved to another brand/OS.
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No one cares about your personal rant. It's complete nonsense you fabricated.
I think they will redesign the iPhone for the 10th anniversary edition, the 7 would of been a redesign but i think they held it back for next year. I don't think it will be anything drastic, what else can they do with the form factor? it's not like they can make a circle phone or anything as drastic. I don't mind the design the way it is, it works and it's great.
However i do think they will probably move to an all glass design, one of the most reliable analysts Ming-Chi-Chow has predicted it, obviously he could be wrong and or Apple could change it. As for features, i'm not sure about wireless charging, but i do think they will add something nice.
Personally i'm happy to have upgraded to the iPhone 7 Plus, the camera alone was worth it, i love the Bokeh effect feature.
However i do think they will probably move to an all glass design, one of the most reliable analysts Ming-Chi-Chow has predicted it, obviously he could be wrong and or Apple could change it. As for features, i'm not sure about wireless charging, but i do think they will add something nice.
Personally i'm happy to have upgraded to the iPhone 7 Plus, the camera alone was worth it, i love the Bokeh effect feature.
It's hard to argue with this fellows logic.
There is only one thing that matters to ol' Tim Cook, and a major change a year early would only cut him out of more money. Would anybody dare question there's no way Tim Cook will skip any increments on the way to what the phone should be now?
There'll be a step for the screen size. A step for a flush home button. A step for Oled.
I think we should amend the old saying 'the only certainties in life and death are taxes' to include 'and Tim Cook's love for the final penny'
I'm absolutely happy with what Apple does. They could be doing better I'm sure. But they are far better than any other OS/brand in my opinion and I've bought every questionable Apple product or spin off going in the past 10 years. My point is not about what Apple is doing....it's about forums, YouTube channels etc that build up something we then come to expect and then we get disappointed. People talk about the iPhone 8 as if there are some facts associated with it. All we have is speculation from those who are incentivised to make speculation.
With every wireless charging platform I have used, you have the option to charge by cable or mat. It being more expensive is not a disadvantage if it is sold optionally.
It may have limited advantages but there are no disadvantages.
It is simply a convenience item that some may use. Some may not.
I just listed disadvantages to using wireless charging. Obviously none of them apply if you stick to wired charging.
To be clear, I'm not against Apple including wireless charging as a feature. In fact, I think they definitely should. I'm saying that from my perspective I see a number of disadvantages to using it over a cable in most situations, given the current state of the technology.
This Forum and others like it build up the expectations far beyond the ability of the phone makers. It is the readers here that have to keep it all in perspective.
Apple tries to keep it all a secret and few of the leak come directly from Apple.
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Definitely don't want an S7 Edge clone and not that keen on the glass back either. Lose the home button, add wireless charging (I'm sorry it's so much better), give us a decent battery and I'm happy. I wouldn't be mad if they dropped some limited release colors too like they did with the U2 iPod years back. Maybe all white? I'd buy it.