The iPhone 8 redesign is just fantasy

[Kingofclouds]

Does anyone really think the Apple of today are going to get sentimental about the tenth anniversary iPhone and therefore warrant a change from pretty much 9 years of a consistent cycle of new models the S years. The tic toc formula has been a great success for them. Why would they change it now?! Why would they redesign the home button on the 7 only to integrate it a year later? Nope won't happen.

iPhone 8 with OLED screen and edge to edge. Probably but it will be 2018. Expect the 2017 iPhone 7s with new 'ice white' colour, Apple Watch 2 style waterproofing and processor bump. Oh and camera improvements of course. But same design. We will complain but still buy it. Oh and it will be the greatest iPhone of all with all time record sales.

Apple only care about margins now and they can squeeze those by keeping the same design for 4 years. The iPhone 4 & 5 would have had the same form factor if it wasn't for people demanding the move from 3.5 to 4inches in an attempt to appease android competition.

Just like the watch won't change much for version 3. Look at the lazy iPad Pro design. Same as Air, nothing changed really. Just a few tweaks.They dont need to innovate anymore - we just buy it regardless

Sorry to be so negative but the chances of an all glass galaxy edge clone in 2017 is about as likely as the headphone jack making a comeback.

 

[Newtons Apple]

Yes. Yes I do.

 

[jlczl]

There's only so much that can be done in this plateauing product line. I agree that the innovation people are expecting won't materialize and that the incremental design changes we've come to expect will continue.......only at an even slower pace.

 

[willmtaylor]

1. Paragraphs. For the love of God, use them.
2. Yes, I do. Where there's smoke, there's fire, and there's too much smoke to ignore.
3. Does this mean that you're recanting your theory of iPhones in 4's? (https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphones-come-in-fours.1989019/)

 

[George Knighton]

I've heard some very interesting rumors about an almost-all glass design of iPhone (8 or 10).

 

[Brandonjr36]

If they don't do a redesign I'll just keep my iphone 7. But I'm pretty sure there gonna do a complete redesign. I think the made the 7 similar. To have an extra year to make the iPhone 8 more badass. It's suppose to come with an all glass body and have up to 15 feet away wireless charging!! And it would be stupid for Apple to stay with the same design again cause they have lost several customers to android phones because of it. They got lucky this year that the note 7 had so many problems, cause if it didn't then there would have been a lot more people that switched to them vs the iPhone

Me personally did the opposite. I went from the galaxy s7 to the iPhone for my first iPhone. And I love it but there's no way some people that's had every iPhone are gonna stay with a company that has the same design for 4 years.

 

[44267547]

I've heard some very interesting rumors about an almost-all glass design of iPhone (8 or 10).

Yes, Macrumors has reported an all glass design while back. Also, possible Edge to edge display, with an integrated home button.

 

[Thor_1]

If they don't do a redesign I'll just keep my iphone 7. But I'm pretty sure there gonna do a complete redesign. I think the made the 7 similar. To have an extra year to make the iPhone 8 more badass. It's suppose to come with an all glass body and have up to 15 feet away wireless charging!! And it would be stupid for Apple to stay with the same design again cause they have lost several customers to android phones because of it. They got lucky this year that the note 7 had so many problems, cause if it didn't then there would have been a lot more people that switched to them vs the iPhone

Me personally did the opposite. I went from the galaxy s7 to the iPhone for my first iPhone. And I love it but there's no way some people that's had every iPhone are gonna stay with a company that has the same design for 4 years.

Why does it matter what the outside looks like? It's what is on the inside that matters.

Will be interesting to read all the iPhone 8 issues and complaints next year.

 

[joeblow7777]

Does anyone really think the Apple of today are going to get sentimental about the tenth anniversary iPhone and therefore warrant a change from pretty much 9 years of a consistent cycle of new models the S years. The tic toc formula has been a great success for them. Why would they change it now?! Why would they redesign the home button on the 7 only to integrate it a year later? Nope won't happen. iPhone 8 with OLED screen and edge to edge. Probably but it will be 2018. Expect the 2017 iPhone 7s with new 'ice white' colour, Apple Watch 2 style waterproofing and processor bump. Oh and camera improvements of course. But same design. We will complain but still buy it. Oh and it will be the greatest iPhone of all with all time record sales. Apple only care about margins now and they can squeeze those by keeping the same design for 4 years. The iPhone 4 & 5 would have had the same form factor if it wasn't for people demanding the move from 3.5 to 4inches in an attempt to appease android competition. Just like the watch won't change much for version 3. Look at the lazy iPad Pro design. Same as Air, nothing changed really. Just a few tweaks.They dont need to innovate anymore - we just buy it regardless. Sorry to be so negative but the chances of an all glass galaxy edge clone in 2017 is about as likely as the headphone jack making a comeback.

The cycle is already broken by the 7 not having a redesign. There will be a redesign because Apple knows that people are more likely to be impressed by and buy a new phone when it looks like a new phone. 4 generations of phones that are nearly indistinguishable seems unlikely to me.

 

[Brandonjr36]

Why does it matter what the outside looks like? It's what is on the inside that matters.

Will be interesting to read all the iPhone 8 issues and complaints next year.

I mean it would be stupid to buy the sa

Why does it matter what the outside looks like? It's what is on the inside that matters.

Will be interesting to read all the iPhone 8 issues and complaints next year.

i wouldn't want the same design for 4 years but they main thing is they can't offer wireless charging with the aluminum back. If I had bought the 6 then the 6s then the 7 I wouldn't buy the 8 if it looked the same. I would either keep the previous one or try a different brand. It's not like these phones are $200-$300 there $700 for the regular one... Apple and every other brand need to stay with it on design and inside the phone for what they cost.

 

[joeblow7777]

Why does it matter what the outside looks like? It's what is on the inside that matters.

Will be interesting to read all the iPhone 8 issues and complaints next year.

Have you met the average consumer? Most have no idea what's inside their phone.

 

[eyoungren]

Does anyone really think the Apple of today are going to get sentimental about the tenth anniversary iPhone and therefore warrant a change from pretty much 9 years of a consistent cycle of new models the S years. The tic toc formula has been a great success for them. Why would they change it now?! Why would they redesign the home button on the 7 only to integrate it a year later? Nope won't happen. iPhone 8 with OLED screen and edge to edge. Probably but it will be 2018. Expect the 2017 iPhone 7s with new 'ice white' colour, Apple Watch 2 style waterproofing and processor bump. Oh and camera improvements of course. But same design. We will complain but still buy it. Oh and it will be the greatest iPhone of all with all time record sales. Apple only care about margins now and they can squeeze those by keeping the same design for 4 years. The iPhone 4 & 5 would have had the same form factor if it wasn't for people demanding the move from 3.5 to 4inches in an attempt to appease android competition. Just like the watch won't change much for version 3. Look at the lazy iPad Pro design. Same as Air, nothing changed really. Just a few tweaks.They dont need to innovate anymore - we just buy it regardless. Sorry to be so negative but the chances of an all glass galaxy edge clone in 2017 is about as likely as the headphone jack making a comeback.

If the iPhone doesn't change next year - we go back to Windows Mobile.

Oh…and paragraphs sir, paragraphs!
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Why does it matter what the outside looks like? It's what is on the inside that matters.

No

Maybe for you.

Aesthetics and design trump everything to me. We spend 2.5 to 3.5 years with our phones, they do not go in cases and iOS is not the main reason we buy them.

We want to like what we are looking at for that long.

So, on the contrary…it's VERY important what the outside looks like.

 

[Cardsfan85]

My guess is that there will be a redesign, but I also expect that the new phone won't be as grandiose as the current rumors suggest. It seems to me that many of the previous releases didn't quite live up to the rumors and left many of the diehards somewhat wanting. I could see the scenario where the new iPhone has some of the rumored features but others get held back for future releases cost constraints, supplier issues, the desire not to put all the eggs into one basket, etc.

 

[Retired Cat]

The OP seems to forget that the iPhone 7 is basically iPhone 6ss.

 

[DUIduckSAUCE]

I agree probably no drastic design change next year. If there is one it will be on a more expensive model with two regular models offered along side it. I just don't see where apple can possibly get all of these oled panels. 2018 for a complete lineup re design.

 

[Thor_1]

If the iPhone doesn't change next year - we go back to Windows Mobile.

Oh…and paragraphs sir, paragraphs!
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No

Maybe for you.

Aesthetics and design trump everything to me. We spend 2.5 to 3.5 years with our phones, they do not go in cases and iOS is not the main reason we buy them.

We want to like what we are looking at for that long.

So, on the contrary…it's VERY important what the outside looks like.

We will agree to disagree I guess. For me the processor, ram, storage, camera, operating system, ease of use and ability to last for several years trumps the appearance. I will say that I would prefer a black or silver color.

 

[Applejuiced]

I noticed lots of people have very high expectations for the next iPhone and rumors about complete redesign and other things have really sparked lots of interest.
Also the fact that it will the anniversary edition of the original iphone 2G time makes me feel that it will be special with lots of the "wow factor".
I just hope we dont get disappointed at the end.
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Why does it matter what the outside looks like? It's what is on the inside that matters.

Will be interesting to read all the iPhone 8 issues and complaints next year.

Im with you on that.
Design is cool and nice to look at but functionality and performance is where most of my decision is based.
Apple makes good looking devices in general so its not like they will put out something thats totally ugly.
But as you can see not everyone has the same features opinion, Eric likes to look at his iPhone caseless (naked) all day lol
I cover up mine from front to back so nothing ever makes contact with it at all.
Solid case that covers the back and sides well and a glass screen protector that overs the screen.
Only part of the phone Im really touching is the home button that is not covered or protected

 

[eyoungren]

We will agree to disagree I guess. For me the processor, ram, storage, camera, operating system, ease of use and ability to last for several years trumps the appearance. I will say that I would prefer a black or silver color.

The things I use a phone for, email, texting, phone calls, light web browsing are all doable things for a standard flip phone. The iPhone can already do those things easily. I don't use my phone for anything other than quick photos of stuff no one cares about either so camera quality is already sufficient for me.

The iPhone already lasts as long as the time I quoted so, good there.

I don't stream music, watch movies or play games. That's what all the computers I have access to are for - or my television.

So, seeing as the iPhone can already cover what a flip phone can do for me the internals are far less important to me.
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Erik likes to look at his iPhone caseless (naked) all day lol

Not ALL day.

Just 23 hours and 59 minutes.

 

[Applejuiced]

Not ALL day.

Just 23 hours and 59 minutes.

Lol
We're just playing, we love you bro

 

[macTW]

Does anyone really think the Apple of today are going to get sentimental about the tenth anniversary iPhone and therefore warrant a change from pretty much 9 years of a consistent cycle of new models the S years..... Why would they change it now?!..... Why would they redesign the home button on the 7 only to integrate it a year later?..... iPhone 8 with OLED screen and edge to edge..... Apple only care about margins now and they can squeeze those by keeping the same design for 4 years..... The iPhone 4 & 5 would have had the same form factor if it wasn't for people demanding the move from 3.5 to 4inches in an attempt to appease android competition..... Just like the watch won't change much for version 3..... Look at the lazy iPad Pro design..... about as likely as the headphone jack making a comeback.

1) Yes, they do care. Why do most companies have anniversary sales? A way to have special marketing that appeals to the human emotions inside us.
2) They'll change it now because of the anniversary and their market position - owning more of the market than ever before, in a period where they can "innovate" and competitors aren't as much as they were a year or two ago.
3) It's extremely clear the redesign of the home button allows them to integrate it into the screen...this is step-by-step integration of it.
4) Correct. That's the iPhone 8... next year
5) Every company in existence is profit-focused... Replace Apple with any company name, and your point becomes stating the obvious.
6) Correct. Consumers drive a lot of company innovation, as do market competitions. Give any company a monopoly, and they won't innovate. See postal service, DMV, PG&E, etc. etc.
7) The watch is a completely different product line. What more can they do, design-wise, for the watch? Why does the external design of an already well-designed watch matter, anyways? Shouldn't the main focus be internals, with the design they already have...?
8) Again, the iPad lineup is completely different. With that sized device, what more could they do? They made the product into a nicer version, with more features, of the previous iPad lineup.
9) You're right on this. The headphone jack is gone.


I'd suggest letting your emotions settle before starting threads. The lack of common sense makes it look silly.
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I mean it would be stupid to buy the sa

i wouldn't want the same design for 4 years but they main thing is they can't offer wireless charging with the aluminum back. If I had bought the 6 then the 6s then the 7 I wouldn't buy the 8 if it looked the same. I would either keep the previous one or try a different brand. It's not like these phones are $200-$300 there $700 for the regular one... Apple and every other brand need to stay with it on design and inside the phone for what they cost.

Wireless charging. One of the stupidest suggestions for an iPhone.

"Oh yea, let's get rid of cables that tie us down to a few foot sized location, to only replace them with a charging pad that ties our phone down to one singular spot the size of my hand."

 

[Aditya_S]

I've heard some very interesting rumors about an almost-all glass design of iPhone (8 or 10).

I like aluminum but I think with iPhone 7 we have seen more problems come from it. There was a person on another thread that showed pictures of his hand get black marks on it after using the Matte Black iPhone 7, and there are other issues people are having with the black coming off and revealing the silver aluminum underneath. Glass wouldn't have these issues and we would be able to get the glossy finishes for every color.

 

[joeblow7777]

[QUOTE="macTW, post: 23987506, member: 1053022"
Wireless charging. One of the stupidest suggestions for an iPhone.

"Oh yea, let's get rid of cables that tie us down to a few foot sized location, to only replace them with a charging pad that ties our phone down to one singular spot the size of my hand."[/QUOTE]

Yeah, honestly, I have no idea why people make such a big deal about wireless charging. It would be great if I only ever charged my phone in one place and never wanted to use it while charging, but given that neither of those conditions reflect my reality, I have no idea what practical advantages wireless charging offer.

 

[44267547]

[QUOTE="macTW, post: 23987506, member: 1053022"
Wireless charging. One of the stupidest suggestions for an iPhone.

"Oh yea, let's get rid of cables that tie us down to a few foot sized location, to only replace them with a charging pad that ties our phone down to one singular spot the size of my hand."

Yeah, honestly, I have no idea why people make such a big deal about wireless charging. It would be great if I only ever charged my phone in one place and never wanted to use it while charging, but given that neither of those conditions reflect my reality, I have no idea what practical advantages wireless charging offer.[/QUOTE]

Wireless charging appears to be more of a convenience. I would only appreciate this feature perhaps when in the dark and not having to Fumble with the lighting port. Unless Apple can introduce something we haven't seen or additional features with wireless charging, then its not a necessity for me.

Long range wireless charging, then my interest will be piqued.

 

[C DM]

Wireless charging. One of the stupidest suggestions for an iPhone.

"Oh yea, let's get rid of cables that tie us down to a few foot sized location, to only replace them with a charging pad that ties our phone down to one singular spot the size of my hand."

Yeah, honestly, I have no idea why people make such a big deal about wireless charging. It would be great if I only ever charged my phone in one place and never wanted to use it while charging, but given that neither of those conditions reflect my reality, I have no idea what practical advantages wireless charging offer.

Simplicity and convenience to just be able to quickly without much thought or action put down the device and have it charge and similarly pick it up and use it for something and then perhaps just put it down again if needed. Potentially more convenient for some than others in perhaps certain situations than others.

 

[Brandonjr36]

1) Yes, they do care. Why do most companies have anniversary sales? A way to have special marketing that appeals to the human emotions inside us.
2) They'll change it now because of the anniversary and their market position - owning more of the market than ever before, in a period where they can "innovate" and competitors aren't as much as they were a year or two ago.
3) It's extremely clear the redesign of the home button allows them to integrate it into the screen...this is step-by-step integration of it.
4) Correct. That's the iPhone 8... next year
5) Every company in existence is profit-focused... Replace Apple with any company name, and your point becomes stating the obvious.
6) Correct. Consumers drive a lot of company innovation, as do market competitions. Give any company a monopoly, and they won't innovate. See postal service, DMV, PG&E, etc. etc.
7) The watch is a completely different product line. What more can they do, design-wise, for the watch? Why does the external design of an already well-designed watch matter, anyways? Shouldn't the main focus be internals, with the design they already have...?
8) Again, the iPad lineup is completely different. With that sized device, what more could they do? They made the product into a nicer version, with more features, of the previous iPad lineup.
9) You're right on this. The headphone jack is gone.


I'd suggest letting your emotions settle before starting threads. The lack of common sense makes it look silly.
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Wireless charging. One of the stupidest suggestions for an iPhone.

"Oh yea, let's get rid of cables that tie us down to a few foot sized location, to only replace them with a charging pad that ties our phone down to one singular spot the size of my hand."

Not what the rumors are saying!! There saying we're gonna be able to charge from 15 feet away. That means it doesn't have to have a pad just have to be within 15 foot of the wireless transmitter.
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[QUOTE="macTW, post: 23987506, member: 1053022"
Wireless charging. One of the stupidest suggestions for an iPhone.

"Oh yea, let's get rid of cables that tie us down to a few foot sized location, to only replace them with a charging pad that ties our phone down to one singular spot the size of my hand."

Yeah, honestly, I have no idea why people make such a big deal about wireless charging. It would be great if I only ever charged my phone in one place and never wanted to use it while charging, but given that neither of those conditions reflect my reality, I have no idea what practical advantages wireless charging offer.[/QUOTE]
And even with the pad it makes it a hell of a lot easier to sit it on the pad at night time instead of trying to plug it in in the dark.