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Considering mine wont connect to external devices made by the manufacturer (AWA and AP Pro 2), I’d say anything over a dime is overpriced. Where did Apple’s QA go? This is the worst rollout ever.
 
I have yet to pay >$500 out of pocket for an unlocked (and non-carrier-juiced with more expensive monthly subscription plan) mobile phone. Last one was S25u 512 GB that came in ~$470 after rebates and incentives. The device itself at retail price was >$1400!

More than $1k outlayfor any mobile device is out of the question.
 
Yeah, I also quit my plans to buy this. Not worth the effort at the current cost. Feels so cheap. I would consider it if they would have sold the same phone at 1799 or more. Heck, I might still buy it if they just change the price. Yeah, that would have been about right. Also, that would have satiated my annual uncontrollable urge to give Apple more money. Totally.
 
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Asking for it to be more expensive?

Is this another Tim burner account??!
For a second, try to think like a strategist and not a user.
I bet you took about an hour to research all that just to reply to my little post. You sure did put a lot of effort into it. Proud of you!
Actually, not at all. It’s clear that you’ve now conceded this debate. Thank you for your contribution.
 
The MacBook Air and iPad Air have never been above their Pro counterparts in terms of product placement. Having the iPhone Air at the top of the iPhone lineup would cause confusion and inconsistency.

At $999 or $1,299, in that scenario, the specs wouldn't have changed. So people would regardless see it as a stripped down Pro in that sense and then backlash would be expected.
Confusion? It’s a phone I think we can grasp the concept. But my .02 is make it the size of the X or mini. The camera is still loads better.
 
For Apple financial and logistics stand point now its easier for them to make the fold starting from $1999
 
I wondered that myself. The air is at least in part a high status and convenience symbol, but it costs less than the Pro so it doesn’t really work as a status symbol
It’s kind of cool when you think about it— Apple is— in a way— trying to erase the status symbol.
 
I would say they’re doing the opposite, seeing how much people will be willing to give up for a form factor
Well, let's see: if the Air costs less than the Pro and therefore can't be a status symbol (as you said), and the Pro doesn't have the premium materials to be a status symbol and is rather function over form, then there really is no status symbol in the lineup this year...but I agree with you Apple is also A/B testing the Air/Pro.
 
I would say they’re doing the opposite, seeing how much people will be willing to give up for a form factor
Haven't given up anything for me going from 16 Pro to 17 Air.

Love the new form factor, less weight and easier to use thin design on one hand.

Haven't used the camera, but the speaker is awesome firing from the screen instead of the bottom/top and the battery exceeded my expectations going 2 days without a charge.

Now I am pondering if I should return the MagSafe Air battery since I might only use it for my travels....
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The air does have superior modem and battery technology. However if it was that price I wouldn’t have bought it. So I’m glad it wasn’t. I don’t think any of them should be over $500 honestly.
 
I’m glad it wasn’t because I would’ve paid it to get rid of that 16 Pro Max brick that I was carrying around much better phone thinner better materials I mean a win-win at that price
 
Haven't given up anything for me going from 16 Pro to 17 Air.

Love the new form factor, less weight and easier to use thin design on one hand.

Haven't used the camera, but the speaker is awesome firing from the screen instead of the bottom/top and the battery exceeded my expectations going 2 days without a charge.

Now I am pondering if I should return the MagSafe Air battery since I might only use it for my travels....
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it's too long though v 16 pro
 
The air does have superior modem and battery technology. However if it was that price I wouldn’t have bought it. So I’m glad it wasn’t. I don’t think any of them should be over $500 honestly.
It has superior modem technology except that it doesn't do mmWave...not a biggie for most people probably but good to be technically correct :)
 
Haven't given up anything for me going from 16 Pro to 17 Air.

Love the new form factor, less weight and easier to use thin design on one hand.

Haven't used the camera, but the speaker is awesome firing from the screen instead of the bottom/top and the battery exceeded my expectations going 2 days without a charge.

Now I am pondering if I should return the MagSafe Air battery since I might only use it for my travels....
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Technically, you did give up a couple cameras. 😆
 
Do we have to pay more for the Air? Can’t we just sign up to buy the Air MagSafe battery?
 
Personally, I'm glad Apple chose to price their new iPhone Air where they priced it. For what this iPhone has I feel it was priced fairly well in between the iPhone 17 and their Pro series iPhones. Prices for these phones have gone up exponentially and it has been crazy with their top of the line 2TB Pro Max costing $2k. No thanks to pricing them even higher.

For the 1TB Air you're already looking at $1400 and to me this is more than high enough.
 
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Personally, I'm glad Apple chose to price their new iPhone Air where they priced it. For what this iPhone has I feel it was priced fairly well in between the iPhone 17 and their Pro series iPhones. Prices for these phones have gone up exponentially and it has been crazy with their top of the line 2TB Pro Max costing $2k. No thanks to pricing them even higher.

For the 1TB Air you're already looking at $1400 and to me this is more than high enough.
Yes, agree, the Air pricing was perfect being in between the Pro and base 17.

Coming from a 16 Pro, the Air is priced well.
 
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