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iPhone Air The iPhone Air Is Underpriced and Should Have Started at $1,299

Mac Overdose said:

Dunning–Kruger effect on display right here folks!​

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The irony of you invoking the Dunning Kruger effect is that you are actually illustrating it. The effect describes people who dismiss or underestimate ideas they do not fully understand. I am making a point rooted in pricing psychology, brand positioning, and luxury marketing strategy, all of which go far beyond spec sheets. Apple is not just a technology company, it is one of the most successful luxury brands in the world.

If you think this is simply about features for price, you are missing the entire point of how Apple has historically shaped perception and demand. The Watch Edition examples, the original MacBook Air pricing, and even the way Apple sells accessories all prove that Apple uses pricing as a tool to define value, not just as a reflection of hardware cost.

So before throwing around buzzwords, take a moment to understand the argument.
 
Considering mine wont connect to external devices made by the manufacturer (AWA and AP Pro 2), I’d say anything over a dime is overpriced. Where did Apple’s QA go? This is the worst rollout ever.
 
I have yet to pay >$500 out of pocket for an unlocked (and non-carrier-juiced with more expensive monthly subscription plan) mobile phone. Last one was S25u 512 GB that came in ~$470 after rebates and incentives. The device itself at retail price was >$1400!

More than $1k outlayfor any mobile device is out of the question.
 
Yeah, I also quit my plans to buy this. Not worth the effort at the current cost. Feels so cheap. I would consider it if they would have sold the same phone at 1799 or more. Heck, I might still buy it if they just change the price. Yeah, that would have been about right. Also, that would have satiated my annual uncontrollable urge to give Apple more money. Totally.
 
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nyc232 said:
The irony of you invoking the Dunning Kruger effect is that you are actually illustrating it. The effect describes people who dismiss or underestimate ideas they do not fully understand. I am making a point rooted in pricing psychology, brand positioning, and luxury marketing strategy, all of which go far beyond spec sheets. Apple is not just a technology company, it is one of the most successful luxury brands in the world.

If you think this is simply about features for price, you are missing the entire point of how Apple has historically shaped perception and demand. The Watch Edition examples, the original MacBook Air pricing, and even the way Apple sells accessories all prove that Apple uses pricing as a tool to define value, not just as a reflection of hardware cost.

So before throwing around buzzwords, take a moment to understand the argument.
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I bet you took about an hour to research all that just to reply to my little post. You sure did put a lot of effort into it. Proud of you!
 
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TVreporter said:
Asking for it to be more expensive?

Is this another Tim burner account??!
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For a second, try to think like a strategist and not a user.
Mac Overdose said:
I bet you took about an hour to research all that just to reply to my little post. You sure did put a lot of effort into it. Proud of you!
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Actually, not at all. It’s clear that you’ve now conceded this debate. Thank you for your contribution.
 
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Andres Cantu said:
The MacBook Air and iPad Air have never been above their Pro counterparts in terms of product placement. Having the iPhone Air at the top of the iPhone lineup would cause confusion and inconsistency.

At $999 or $1,299, in that scenario, the specs wouldn't have changed. So people would regardless see it as a stripped down Pro in that sense and then backlash would be expected.
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Confusion? It’s a phone I think we can grasp the concept. But my .02 is make it the size of the X or mini. The camera is still loads better.
 
nyc232 said:
For a second, try to think like a strategist and not a user.

Actually, not at all. It’s clear that you’ve now conceded this debate. Thank you for your contribution.
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You come off as a narcissist, and there is no point in debating a narcissist. Just like there is no point in debating someone who falls into the Dunning-Kruger spectrum. Your tone throughout is condescending, and I stand by my original jab. It obviously struck a well-deserved chord.
 
For Apple financial and logistics stand point now its easier for them to make the fold starting from $1999
 
TheRdungeon said:
I wondered that myself. The air is at least in part a high status and convenience symbol, but it costs less than the Pro so it doesn’t really work as a status symbol
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It’s kind of cool when you think about it— Apple is— in a way— trying to erase the status symbol.
 
TheRdungeon said:
I would say they’re doing the opposite, seeing how much people will be willing to give up for a form factor
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Well, let's see: if the Air costs less than the Pro and therefore can't be a status symbol (as you said), and the Pro doesn't have the premium materials to be a status symbol and is rather function over form, then there really is no status symbol in the lineup this year...but I agree with you Apple is also A/B testing the Air/Pro.
 
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TheRdungeon said:
I would say they’re doing the opposite, seeing how much people will be willing to give up for a form factor
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Haven't given up anything for me going from 16 Pro to 17 Air.

Love the new form factor, less weight and easier to use thin design on one hand.

Haven't used the camera, but the speaker is awesome firing from the screen instead of the bottom/top and the battery exceeded my expectations going 2 days without a charge.

Now I am pondering if I should return the MagSafe Air battery since I might only use it for my travels....
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The air does have superior modem and battery technology. However if it was that price I wouldn’t have bought it. So I’m glad it wasn’t. I don’t think any of them should be over $500 honestly.
 
I’m glad it wasn’t because I would’ve paid it to get rid of that 16 Pro Max brick that I was carrying around much better phone thinner better materials I mean a win-win at that price
 
4sallypat said:
Haven't given up anything for me going from 16 Pro to 17 Air.

Love the new form factor, less weight and easier to use thin design on one hand.

Haven't used the camera, but the speaker is awesome firing from the screen instead of the bottom/top and the battery exceeded my expectations going 2 days without a charge.

Now I am pondering if I should return the MagSafe Air battery since I might only use it for my travels....
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it's too long though v 16 pro
 
Kjabean said:
The air does have superior modem and battery technology. However if it was that price I wouldn’t have bought it. So I’m glad it wasn’t. I don’t think any of them should be over $500 honestly.
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It has superior modem technology except that it doesn't do mmWave...not a biggie for most people probably but good to be technically correct :)
 
4sallypat said:
Haven't given up anything for me going from 16 Pro to 17 Air.

Love the new form factor, less weight and easier to use thin design on one hand.

Haven't used the camera, but the speaker is awesome firing from the screen instead of the bottom/top and the battery exceeded my expectations going 2 days without a charge.

Now I am pondering if I should return the MagSafe Air battery since I might only use it for my travels....
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Technically, you did give up a couple cameras. 😆
 
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