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"The items will be deleted immediately"

e93to

e93to

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Jan 23, 2015
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Sometimes when I move an item to trash, I get a message that says "The items will be deleted immediately." Rebooting the computers fix the issue, but I always wondered what suddenly causes such thing. From what I know, change in read/write permission or drive ownership causes such things. But why the sudden change if I didn't modify any of that?

Last year my iMac asked me to enter passwords for everything I did - moving files to different folder, moving an item to trash, etc. Rebooting, repairing permission in safe mode & recovery mode, etc didn't help. I had to change the ownership and click "apply to enclosed items." That was a bizarre incident.

A couple of days ago, 2 of my Macs suddenly started displaying "The items will be deleted immediately" messages. I haven't done anything unusual to my computers at all...

So yeah... I'm curious as to what could be causing such things..

My iMac is on 10.8.5 while my MBP is on 10.6.8
 
If you are not running El Capitan, open Disk Utility and run Repair Permissions.
 
e93to said:
Is this a common issue that's been occurring throughout various versions of OS X?
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No it is a common issue with people or programs who have no idea what they are doing messing with system files. Last time I seen this float by a week or so ago it was the user deleting then trying to recreate the .Trash folder with incorrect permissions. Two weeks I guess now I look at the Similar Threads link at the bottom of the page.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/delete-files-–-always-delete-immediately-dialogue.1952510/
 
MacUser2525 said:
No it is a common issue with people or programs who have no idea what they are doing messing with system files. Last time I seen this float by a week or so ago it was the user deleting then trying to recreate the .Trash folder with incorrect permissions. Two weeks I guess now I look at the Similar Threads link at the bottom of the page.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/delete-files-–-always-delete-immediately-dialogue.1952510/
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Thanks for the link.

But I didn't do anything on Terminal. Actually, I never use Terminal... So could a third-party app be causing this time to time...?
 
e93to said:
Thanks for the link.

But I didn't do anything on Terminal. Actually, I never use Terminal... So could a third-party app be causing this time to time...?
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Could be one them oh so helpful clean your Mac apps gone bad. Personally I have never seen the use for them OSX generally cleans up well after itself the only exception I found in years of use was couple of weeks back when I got your device is running short of space. Turns out if you leave your computer on all the time as I do then the cache files can get enormous leading to the warning a simple reboot solves it getting back to reasonable size.
 
MacUser2525 said:
Could be one them oh so helpful clean your Mac apps gone bad. Personally I have never seen the use for them OSX generally cleans up well after itself the only exception I found in years of use was couple of weeks back when I got your device is running short of space. Turns out if you leave your computer on all the time as I do then the cache files can get enormous leading to the warning a simple reboot solves it getting back to reasonable size.
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I don't use Clean My Mac or such apps.. Again, when this happens even though I don't know anything unusual.
 
e93to said:
I don't use Clean My Mac or such apps.. Again, when this happens even though I don't know anything unusual.
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Definitely unusual especially if you have followed the steps in the thread I linked too and corrected the permissions and it is still going on. Have you?
 
MacUser2525 said:
Definitely unusual especially if you have followed the steps in the thread I linked too and corrected the permissions and it is still going on. Have you?
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I didn't follow the steps from the link you provided.

Rebooting fixes the issue. However, it randomly comes back. Days later, weeks later or months later.

I just want to know what could be triggering this behavior.
 
e93to said:
I didn't follow the steps from the link you provided.

Rebooting fixes the issue. However, it randomly comes back. Days later, weeks later or months later.

I just want to know what could be triggering this behavior.
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Well then that is bug somewhere in program you have used or OSX itself no clue which one, never had it happen here to even think about tracking something like that down.
 
Now I'm asked for password when I move files to Trash... Permission for Machintosh HD was suddenly changed to "read only."

Again, I didn't do anything unusual. I was only running iTunes, Chrome and Mendeley (PDF organizer and reader).
 
As I stated above, you have some kind of conflict (perhaps between different accounts?) arising over "ownership of the trash".

That's the issue you need to explore insofar as resolving the problem goes...
 
Fishrrman said:
As I stated above, you have some kind of conflict (perhaps between different accounts?) arising over "ownership of the trash".

That's the issue you need to explore insofar as resolving the problem goes...
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I don't have any other account on my computers other than mine (admin).
 
OP wrote:
"I don't have any other account on my computers other than mine (admin)."

Doesn't matter -- things can still become "mixed up".

There is a solution for this, probably requires use of the terminal.
 
CoastalOR said:
OP: Check out this MacRumors thread for a similar problem that came down to root owning the trash.
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Thanks for the link. I've tried those before. But the issue still comes back randomly.
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Fishrrman said:
OP wrote:
"I don't have any other account on my computers other than mine (admin)."

Doesn't matter -- things can still become "mixed up".

There is a solution for this, probably requires use of the terminal.
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Interesting. Wouldn't changing ownership/permission of root directory require admin password for verification? This is what really makes me wonder how and why this could happen... With yesterday's case, I couldn't copy files into a folder without being prompted for password (just like what I experienced last year). But I didn't have to change read/write permission, and then click "apply to enclosed items." Simple reboot fixed the issues for yesterday's case.
 
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