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The latest on Siri for iPhone 4

The video is of the Siri app, not Apple's Siri. They are very different. Its though that an A5 is needed, because the 4S uses one of the GPU's to find out what the user is saying. The iPhone 4's GPU is very underpowered for it and it has a better chance of working on the 3Gs, whose GPU though the same as the 4's is able to redraw the screen much faster. Thus, the 3Gs' has more idle time then the 4. But not a whole core free like the A5.
 
iChaseH said:
No, not that sole reason. http://www.limera1n.cc/2011/10/enable-install-siri-on-iphone-4-soon.html
This as well shows the base of it on an iPod Touch. It's just a matter of time. Although even the
running of it from the App Store shows it's certainly possible.
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They got the pictures of it showing? This is no different then the many attempts to get HDR photo taking on the 3Gs. We have the switch, the HDR button, and the "Saving photo" thing. But no matter what is done, the 3Gs cannot take HDR photos. With Siri on older devices, you'll get the images and animations, but it won't respond in any way.
 
Intell said:
The video is of the Siri app, not Apple's Siri. They are very different. Its though that an A5 is needed, because the 4S uses one of the GPU's to find out what the user is saying. The iPhone 4's GPU is very underpowered for it and it has a better chance of working on the 3Gs, whose GPU though the same as the 4's is able to redraw the screen much faster. Thus, the 3Gs' has more idle time then the 4. But not a whole core free like the A5.
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Understandably they are very different, yet it was an App released by Apple. And it shows the app understanding the "context words" discussed when the 4S was released. Proving that there is no special hardware the 4S has when it comes to understanding words. The chip speed may be another story and even if that's the case I'd believe most would be willing to deal with a slow running Siri rather than none at all.

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Intell said:
They got the pictures of it showing? This is no different then the many attempts to get HDR photo taking on the 3Gs. We have the switch, the HDR button, and the "Saving photo" thing. But no matter what is done, the 3Gs cannot take HDR photos. With Siri on older devices, you'll get the images and animations, but it won't respond in any way.
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Can you prove that Siri 100% will not be possible on the 4?
 
Of course it can run on the 4 (what I mean by this is that the hardware is perfectly capable to handle it). Apple will tell you it can't because it is the lone feature that really separates the 4S from the 4 and they want your money.

You think Siri is really that taxing on the hardware? Come on now, folks.
 
Intell said:
The video is of the Siri app, not Apple's Siri. They are very different. Its though that an A5 is needed, because the 4S uses one of the GPU's to find out what the user is saying. The iPhone 4's GPU is very underpowered for it and it has a better chance of working on the 3Gs, whose GPU though the same as the 4's is able to redraw the screen much faster. Thus, the 3Gs' has more idle time then the 4. But not a whole core free like the A5.
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Would it not be the dual core CPU, not GPU, that is providing the advantage? I'm a little confused how the GPU would be effecting Siri very much?
 
The old Siri app, which has been available on the 4 for a while, and also worked great, now no longer functions.
 
Intell said:
The video is of the Siri app, not Apple's Siri. They are very different. Its though that an A5 is needed, because the 4S uses one of the GPU's to find out what the user is saying. The iPhone 4's GPU is very underpowered for it and it has a better chance of working on the 3Gs, whose GPU though the same as the 4's is able to redraw the screen much faster. Thus, the 3Gs' has more idle time then the 4. But not a whole core free like the A5.
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GPU? What do graphics processes have to do with Siri?
 
lavrishevo said:
Would it not be the dual core CPU, not GPU, that is providing the advantage? I'm a little confused how the GPU would be effecting Siri very much?
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Interstella5555 said:
GPU? What do graphics processes have to do with Siri?
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I read that Siri uses one of the GPU core to quickly compute the phonetics of the speech to be sent to Apple. My guess is that its using some kind of OpenCL or CUDA.
 
Apple has sort of tolerated the jailbreak community for quite some time. However, if they flat out steal apple's code, I think we'll see Apple take it to another level.

Also, since Siri requires contact with remote servers for most of its big time features, Apple could pretty easily build in a way of detecting whether or not you're using an authorized version of iOS5, and remotely brick your phone if it's found you're using illegitimate hardware with Siri. Not saying they would do that, but they very likely could. Especially if it's revealed that people are actually ripping off Siri's source code.

Edit: not saying I think Apple should do this, but they very well could. What would people do if they did? Sue Apple? For improper usage of stolen IP?
 
fjrabon said:
Apple has sort of tolerated the jailbreak community for quite some time. However, if they flat out steal apple's code, I think we'll see Apple take it to another level.

Also, since Siri requires contact with remote servers for most of its big time features, Apple could pretty easily build in a way of detecting whether or not you're using an authorized version of iOS5, and remotely brick your phone if it's found you're using illegitimate hardware with Siri. Not saying they would do that, but they very likely could. Especially if it's revealed that people are actually ripping off Siri's source code.

Edit: not saying I think Apple should do this, but they very well could. What would people do if they did? Sue Apple? For improper usage of stolen IP?
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You are crazy.. lol
 
There is not hardware limitation on the iP4 to run Siri, It will take a lot of resources and it will not perform as well since the code is wrote in such a way that the processors is expected to handel multiple threads at the same time which is not possible on the A4, but it will run.

Now Siri is embedded on the OS so to port it, the code would have to be rip from it and there is not way to do that unless you Break the TOS and pirate the code which is the bigest issue for JBer team to make an official release.

My guess is that this post will stay underground and on the back channels as it was in the old days.
 
I think everyone should just wait as iFixit has a iPhone 4 S and are currently doing their thing ... we will soon know what the iPhone 4S is running then no one has to say "WELL I THINK I4 CAN" then someone say "WELL I MEAN CMON 4 or 4S ..IT HAS A S FOR GOD SAKES ITS INSANE".

:).

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Keep refreshing here to find out more and more..

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1
 
Almeuit said:
I think everyone should just wait as iFixit has a iPhone 4 S and are currently doing their thing ... we will soon know what the iPhone 4S is running then no one has to say "WELL I THINK I4 CAN" then someone say "WELL I MEAN CMON 4 or 4S ..IT HAS A S FOR GOD SAKES ITS INSANE".

:).

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Keep refreshing here to find out more and more..

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1
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They already shared the most important factors, Memory, basedband chip and core. As far as Siri is concern the only diference between iP4 and iP4s is the dual core, everything else is the same.
 
maturola said:
They already shared the most important factors, Memory, basedband chip and core. As far as Siri is concern the only diference between iP4 and iP4s is the dual core, everything else is the same.
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Yep but look what they posted in the guide ...


(Step 8)
If Siri has an address, this is it. Though iCloud integration can be used with any iOS 5 device, Siri only works with dual-core devices.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)

Just curious what was wrong with the other thread. About getting Siri on the I4.
 
labman said:
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)

Just curious what was wrong with the other thread. About getting Siri on the I4.
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Link it
 
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