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Apple just really needs to invest in some marketing because literally nobody knows about this phone.

Apple is probably relying on word of mouth from actual users vs YouTube (which is just an echo chamber of tech enthusiast)

Hence why it’s going to take more then preorder numbers to determine the Airs viability.
 
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Old phones had swappable batteries, a phone could have been swapped 4 batteries throughout the day in the early 2000s and people would have never thought any different about the actual phone, they just would’ve had more batteries. The same thing can be true about the iPhone Air.

Well, swapping a battery in an old phone, would not increase the size and weight of that phone, would it? Air with the battery pack is a different case.
 
Depends on how you define less. For me more is thin and light and hand-holdable and better cellular reception. For me less is heavy and bulky and worse cellular reception. It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Still if more thin is more for you... it still lose a lot of things...

Personally paying 200$ for having a thin phone like this is a big no... I wanna feel something in my hand ! And the buttons are small duh !
 
It's funny how, as with the iPhone mini, selling millions of units is considered a failure. It simply didn't sell in huge enough numbers to meet Apple's expectations. I'd be more interested in the satisfaction ratings. People who bought the iPhone mini loved it. I'm curious to know if that will be the case with the Air.
Yes, Apple used to care about customer satisfaction. Now it’s all about the numbers, optimizing everything purely for the perfect financial result. The ironic thing is that Apple could easily afford to keep the iPhone mini on the market for the fans if they wanted to. It probably wouldn’t even have a significant impact on their overall results.
 
It must come down to strange marketing. Lack of hype. Fake ‘selling out’ fomo etc. Maybe the ‘Air’ itself is an issue. ‘Air’ is construed as budget. If they called it ‘Ultra’ or ‘executive’ or something maybe that would have helped.

So many people slating the Air that have never tired one or even held one. It’s a marvel of design. All I hear is ‘poor battery’ and ‘one camera’. It’s nonsense, as it’s not really an issue.
 
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Well, swapping a battery in an old phone, would not increase the size and weight of that phone, would it? Air with the battery pack is a different case.
Imagine with me that you put the battery case on the air to begin with, now you’re looking at 290 g. However for half of the day, you can takeoff the 125 g battery extender, and then only carry 164 g phone with you all day.

The battery is so light yet extends the battery life so long that you forget even using it. Taking it off when you want the really light weight phone. Besides the battery pack can charge your AirPod pros case when you set it on it so there’s more than one use.
 
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It's funny how, as with the iPhone mini, selling millions of units is considered a failure. It simply didn't sell in huge enough numbers to meet Apple's expectations. I'd be more interested in the satisfaction ratings. People who bought the iPhone mini loved it. I'm curious to know if that will be the case with the Air.
This is an interesting take. It makes me wonder how "failure" is defined. "Mainstream" or "Bust"? Does a product require worldwide, global acceptance in order to survive? Presumably they could afford to keep a "niche" product that sells millions but not tens of millions. My guess is that the 17 Pro sales aren't suffering because the Air exists. I guess it's all rhetorical, but I wonder what it would be like if Apple made an Air and a Mini for the niche users who want them.
 
Why not do your own research and reporting instead of propagating the nonsense peddled by these investment firms who have a vested interest in which Apple products succeed or fail?
 
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It’s the price gouging.

I’m sure people go to the store and wonder why they should pay an extra $200 for a thinner phone that they’re going to put a case on anyway. Then they are told that the camera is inferior, and proceed to purchase the 17 instead.

Same thing with the Mini, it was too damn expensive.
 
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It’s the price gouging.

I’m sure people go to the store and wonder why they should pay $200 for a thinner phone that they’re going to put a case on anyway. Then they are told that the camera is inferior, and proceed to purchase the 17 instead.

Same thing with the Mini, it was too damn expensive.

I’ll happily take the “price gouging” for a premium design and state of the art internals.
 
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It's the single camera that's the killer along with the price. Single camera equates with low-end or budget to most consumers. So you see $999 for the lesser phone and it doesn't make sense. It would sell great at $599.
That's actually a good point. When you think about it, it is closer to a budget phone than a proper iPhone. It has one camera, just 120hz screen, poor battery life, lack of some wifi bands, and it's missing some 5G bands that even the 13 mini had!
 
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That's actually a good point. When you think about it, it is closer to a budget phone than a proper iPhone. It has one camera, just 120hz screen, poor battery life, lack of some wifi bands, and it's missing some 5G bands that even the 13 mini had!
A19 Pro CPU, 12 GB RAM, better build quality than the Pros - sure, that's a real loss leader. /s I had the 12 mini. The screen-on-time for both mini versions was not great. The Air handily beats it and whatever battery concerns there were going in were largely an overblown narrative, to the point that Air users are wondering whether the MagSafe battery pack is even necessary - it isn't. The old version, which I still have and use, was definitely necessary for the mini to get through the day.
 
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It must come down to strange marketing. Lack of hype. Fake ‘selling out’ fomo etc. Maybe the ‘Air’ itself is an issue. ‘Air’ is construed as budget. If they called it ‘Ultra’ or ‘executive’ or something maybe that would have helped.

So many people slating the Air that have never tired one or even held one. It’s a marvel of design. All I hear is ‘poor battery’ and ‘one camera’. It’s nonsense, as it’s not really an issue.
I find it fascinating how the Air fans are digging up the same arguments us mini fans used to.
 
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