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  • No way would I build a hackintosh

    Votes: 349 23.0%
  • I'd consider it if Apple doesn't provide a new Mini or headless iMac in the next three months

    Votes: 185 12.2%
  • I'm considering it right now

    Votes: 578 38.2%
  • I already built one

    Votes: 403 26.6%

  • Total voters
    1,515
But when you make a Hackintosh yourself, and use Clover or whatever other means there are, your machine doesn't identify as a Mac either. I don't mean that Dell XYZ 123 would allow you to simply install Mac OS X from a USB stick, but that you could use Clover or other solution to install it and not have problems such as "everything works except sleep, trackpad, wi-fi, Bluetooth and keyboard" as most laptops seem to be.
That sounds like a good argument. I hope you’re right, particularly since Apple stopped making proper Mac Pros. If they don’t identify as Macs, what do they identify as? Doesn’t Clover make Hackintoshes identify as macs?
 
But when you make a Hackintosh yourself, and use Clover or whatever other means there are, your machine doesn't identify as a Mac either. I don't mean that Dell XYZ 123 would allow you to simply install Mac OS X from a USB stick, but that you could use Clover or other solution to install it and not have problems such as "everything works except sleep, trackpad, wi-fi, Bluetooth and keyboard" as most laptops seem to be.

Yes it does that is what the fakesmc and the various configuration files of the boot loaders do to allow you to boot. Without your machine identifying itself as a Mac through them OSX does not boot on a PC. Indeed there is always something that does not work my hackbook the sd card reader and wifi until I changed out the card did not work on it. My z800 dual cpu 12 core everything works in it same with my desktop which I use with an iMac identifier everything works on it.
 
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I am particularly curious about laptops. I've read that there are like two models that work correctly with Mac OS without replacing half the parts. (HP Probooks? Or am I making this up?) When building a Hackintosh you can pick your own parts, but it's not possible with laptops. Not that I am unhappy with my Air, it's a theoretical exercise :) Just trying to figure out why no PC manufacturer took that road yet. I don't think they could be stopped for legal reasons.
 
Just wondering...

Recently bought an X99 (5930k 6-core) with a pair of GTX 980s in SLI. Also using NVMe PCI SSDs, along with a RAID-0 Sata SSD stripe, for data.

Is that within the Hackintosh realm?
 
I am particularly curious about laptops. I've read that there are like two models that work correctly with Mac OS without replacing half the parts. (HP Probooks? Or am I making this up?) When building a Hackintosh you can pick your own parts, but it's not possible with laptops. Not that I am unhappy with my Air, it's a theoretical exercise :) Just trying to figure out why no PC manufacturer took that road yet. I don't think they could be stopped for legal reasons.

They could easily enough put in compatible components sell it and let the chips fall where they may with what people do with them. It is just they like Apple have their own agenda and a hackintosh compatible machine is not in the plans for them. Usually their idea is to save 5 cents on that piece of junk part they put in so it breaks earlier for the next one to be sold in its place...
 
Just wondering...

Recently bought an X99 (5930k 6-core) with a pair of GTX 980s in SLI. Also using NVMe PCI SSDs, along with a RAID-0 Sata SSD stripe, for data.

Is that within the Hackintosh realm?

Possible I do believe although the SLI is out under OSX, the NVMe is in due to recently released driver, Raid0 is in have used it for years now for my boot drive even and processor/x99 think so I do believe I have seen mention of it working on Insanelymac you should check there for it do think there was some funkyness that needed to be done for the power management though.
 
Thanks for that! I'll check it out...

Possible I do believe although the SLI is out under OSX, the NVMe is in due to recently released driver, Raid0 is in have used it for years now for my boot drive even and processor/x99 think so I do believe I have seen mention of it working on Insanelymac you should check there for it do think there was some funkyness that needed to be done for the power management though.
 
They could easily enough put in compatible components sell it and let the chips fall where they may with what people do with them. It is just they like Apple have their own agenda and a hackintosh compatible machine is not in the plans for them. Usually their idea is to save 5 cents on that piece of junk part they put in so it breaks earlier for the next one to be sold in its place...
I've had two Dell laptops that have basically been identical to Macbook's. I had a Dell Latitude D520 almost identical to the Macbook 2,1 that ran 10.4.4/10.7 awesomely. I also had an Inspiron 3520 almost identical to the Macbook 8,1 that ran 10.7/10.11 even better until I killed it last week.

Currently working on a new HP that doesn't appear to have been done before, but all the components are basically very close to newer MacBook Pro's.

My point is, PC makers are already using components similar to Macs. It might take a few tweaks but usually you can find a few laptops close enough to make it work. Whether or not they are deliberately doing that is up for debate, I guess. Even if they did, they definitely couldn't market the machine that way. (Remember Psystar?)
 
My point is, PC makers are already using components similar to Macs. It might take a few tweaks but usually you can find a few laptops close enough to make it work. Whether or not they are deliberately doing that is up for debate, I guess. Even if they did, they definitely couldn't market the machine that way. (Remember Psystar?)

True enough there are only so many parts makers to go around but things like the high end display, the ssd on a stick those are unlikely to ever be included in the cheap laptops out there. And yes I do remember Psystar and their ripoff of Chameleon they used for their computers. Quo has done the same type of thing with Ozmosis an EFI deal you can hack into your BIOS/EFI firmware. Tried it once but it did not do raid0 in the last version now the newest just released will but will not boot with a TM volume attached to the machine. I do not like their closed source secret development model at all, no one knows what is in that binary blob but them whoever the hell they are.
 
Considering that Apple:

1. Made it easier to make Hackintoshes shortly after releasing the new Mac Pro
2. Took the GPUs out of 13” MacBook Pros and Mac Minis
3. Solders in RAM and GPUs
I wonder if they almost want people to make Hackintoshes, or at least if they detest the idea of making an upgradable Mac which is good for gaming so much that they’d prefer to let people make Hackintoshes instead.
Has anyone else wondered this?
 
Considering that Apple:

1. Made it easier to make Hackintoshes shortly after releasing the new Mac Pro
2. Took the GPUs out of 13” MacBook Pros and Mac Minis
3. Solders in RAM and GPUs
I wonder if they almost want people to make Hackintoshes, or at least if they detest the idea of making an upgradable Mac which is good for gaming so much that they’d prefer to let people make Hackintoshes instead.
Has anyone else wondered this?

4. They sue anyone at the drop of a hat.

Don't think they care about personal use, companies on the other hand selling it then yes they do and have sued them. Really anytime they wanted to make it harder they could stop the whitelisting of Hackintosh .kext they already do forget the name of the Apple .kext they are in at the moment but they are there. Now that would only work until work around is found but it would make it harder to do. A couple of more versions once they have the SIP where they want it they can totally lock out Hackintosh.
 
1. Made it easier to make Hackintoshes shortly after releasing the new Mac Pro
Care to explain? (no sarcasm)

The easiest Hackintosh I made... I think it was 2006. It Just Worked (TM). The only thing I couldn't do was get system updates straight from App Store, had to wait two days or so until someone provided the Hackintosh community with a "fixed" one. Then I haven't made one until 2013 and that one has been harder to get 99% right (although, curiously, system updates from App Store DO work now).
 
4. They sue anyone at the drop of a hat.

Don't think they care about personal use, companies on the other hand selling it then yes they do and have sued them. Really anytime they wanted to make it harder they could stop the whitelisting of Hackintosh .kext they already do forget the name of the Apple .kext they are in at the moment but they are there. Now that would only work until work around is found but it would make it harder to do. A couple of more versions once they have the SIP where they want it they can totally lock out Hackintosh.


I wasn’t talking about companies like Pystar deliberately making Hackintoshes. I was just talking about individual people making them, particularly people who already have legitimate Macs. Like someone who has a 13” MacBook Pro but wants to be able to play games with a better CPU and GPU at home. Apple is my favorite customer, but I find it very irritating that they don’t make gaming machines and I find it infuriating that they’re making it impossible to replace the CPU, GPU, and RAM in a Mac.

But yeah, I guess they don’t care much about people who make Hackintoshes, especially since it seems like Apple will never make a gaming machine because it thinks businesses won’t want to buy Macs. And according to someone on YouTube, the EULA changed to make Hackintoshes legal. Though I don’t know if he’s right about that or where he read that.
 
And according to someone on YouTube, the EULA changed to make Hackintoshes legal. Though I don’t know if he’s right about that or where he read that.

The EULA always only stated Apple labeled machine so taking that sticker you used to get in the retail package and putting it on machine it was Apple labeled. BTW EULAs are not laws they are agreements between you and the company proving the software. In my country non-commercial copyright infringement is not illegal in fact when the content mafiaa tried their normal sue the user scam here it was thrown out of court because the parasites already have a levy on blank media. I have paid my entire adult life for the their supposed losses whether the disk contained my data or theirs.
 
The EULA always only stated Apple labeled machine so taking that sticker you used to get in the retail package and putting it on machine it was Apple labeled. BTW EULAs are not laws they are agreements between you and the company proving the software. In my country non-commercial copyright infringement is not illegal in fact when the content mafiaa tried their normal sue the user scam here it was thrown out of court because the parasites already have a levy on blank media. I have paid my entire adult life for the their supposed losses whether the disk contained my data or theirs.
Which country do you live in?
 
Canada now the last government we just turfed out was in on the TTP a grab of consumer rights across this planet by corporate parasites, so who knows what the future will hold comes up for signing I believe tomorrow in NZ if my memory serves me well. The new government says they will sign but are unsure of ratification but knowing how this goes having watched it my entire life the people are going to get screwed that is how the political weasels usually work.
 
Canada now the last government we just turfed out was in on the TTP a grab of consumer rights across this planet by corporate parasites, so who knows what the future will hold comes up for signing I believe tomorrow in NZ if my memory serves me well. The new government says they will sign but are unsure of ratification but knowing how this goes having watched it my entire life the people are going to get screwed that is how the political weasels usually work.
Okay. I’m guessing the EULA might be treated as law in the US.
 
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