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I have a question to you AW owners. When I spend 500€, I will get a perfect classic Tissot automatic watch, this one will last for a really Long time.
When it Comes to AW and longlievty, what do you guys think? An AW for 450€ is an investment but how Long will it last? isn't a watch in that price category supposed to last for let's say 10years? Also, future Software updates might slow the watch down and sooner or later there won't be updates at all..

Price is perspective

As my other watches are Omega and Tag, the AW isn't even the price of a strap. And believe me even those are cheap in the watch world, Patec Philippe and Rolex would add at least a zero to the end

For what the AW does, can do, and it's design, I actually think it's good value

If you aren't too bothered about watches and use a Fitbit and a Casio watch then it probably isn't for you
 
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You make good points about the FitBit being a better tracker, but where did BlueMoon63 say something about fitness tracking? I can't find the post you are referring to.

They removed it, even before I replied. I received an email and replied to it.
 
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They removed it, even before I replied. I received an email and replied to it.
Yep - it wasn't your fault. I must have started replying to another message somewhere and backed out. When I replied to your email it still had the other information not related to your post so I deleted it. Must have confused you and others. :)

I use my phone too much and sometimes I type reply and decide not to send and if I go to another post and reply, I have to remember to delete the precious info.
 
Yep - it wasn't your fault. I must have started replying to another message somewhere and backed out. When I replied to your email it still had the other information not related to your post so I deleted it. Must have confused you and others. :)

I use my phone too much and sometimes I type reply and decide not to send and if I go to another post and reply, I have to remember to delete the precious info.

No worries, I too live on my phone lol ;-p so I understand. I kind of wasn't sure if I should reply or not since it wasn't there anymore. I choose to reply obviously, but your post was still a good counter view and had good points.
 
No worries, I too live on my phone lol ;-p so I understand. I kind of wasn't sure if I should reply or not since it wasn't there anymore. I choose to reply obviously, but your post was still a good counter view and had good points.
I stole my info from someone else's post. :)

If your number one feature is fitness, the Apple Watch is not the right choice yet. If you don't care about fitness at all or your health at all, the current Apple Watch might seem too expensive.

I would love something like the Garmin if it cares enough about distance and splits and in would have been a buyer of Fitbit a few years back when I was wasting my money on UP products.

And props to you for offering a counter view that was informative and on point and not calling me some nasty name lol
 
Price is perspective

As my other watches are Omega and Tag, the AW isn't even the price of a strap. And believe me even those are cheap in the watch world, Patec Philippe and Rolex would add at least a zero to the end

For what the AW does, can do, and it's design, I actually think it's good value

If you aren't too bothered about watches and use a Fitbit and a Casio watch then it probably isn't for you
I care about watches, and this is my biggest issue. I know that a 500 € watch is cheap (in the real watch world) but such a watch lasts 10 years + and an AW for 450€ barely lasts 2 years...
 
I care about watches, and this is my biggest issue. I know that a 500 € watch is cheap (in the real watch world) but such a watch lasts 10 years + and an AW for 450€ barely lasts 2 years...

An Apple Watch should last as long as the battery lasts, which could be much longer than 2 years. It just wouldn't get software updates for that long. But if all you want is for it to tell time, it could last as long as a similarly priced mechanical watch.

In other words, we are paying for the Apple Watch to do things other than just tell time. Comparing it to price/life expectancy of traditional watches is meaningless.
 
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I care about watches, and this is my biggest issue. I know that a 500 € watch is cheap (in the real watch world) but such a watch lasts 10 years + and an AW for 450€ barely lasts 2 years...
It's all an unknown right now for how long the watch will last. Supported probably for 4-5 years tops. Would need a $79 battery replacement probably to last 5 years.

You just can't compare an Apple Watch to a regular watch based on cost and how long they last. Two different things really since one is a dumb watch and one is a smart watch that everyone knows is meant to be replaced every 2-4 years. If that sounds too expensive for a watch with that lifecycle, it isn't for you and that is perfectly normal thinking. I paid $1000 for mine and another $400 or so on bands.

The iPhone really kills me because I am spending $700 or more every year or so for a new one and that is definitely not worth it but I do it over and over and pass the old one down the line in my family.
 
It's all an unknown right now for how long the watch will last. Supported probably for 4-5 years tops. Would need a $79 battery replacement probably to last 5 years.

You just can't compare an Apple Watch to a regular watch based on cost and how long they last. Two different things really since one is a dumb watch and one is a smart watch that everyone knows is meant to be replaced every 2-4 years. If that sounds too expensive for a watch with that lifecycle, it isn't for you and that is perfectly normal thinking. I paid $1000 for mine and another $400 or so on bands.

The iPhone really kills me because I am spending $700 or more every year or so for a new one and that is definitely not worth it but I do it over and over and pass the old one down the line in my family.

Just like me

But I know people at work using their iPhone 4's fine

We choose to upgrade because we want to, but there is no pressing need really

Not saying it's bad but we like the shiny shiny
 
I care about watches, and this is my biggest issue. I know that a 500 € watch is cheap (in the real watch world) but such a watch lasts 10 years + and an AW for 450€ barely lasts 2 years...

Comments such as these are so curious. It is abundantly clear that people do NOT buy an AW for the reasons people buy an auto Tissot. I have owned good mechanical watches before I got an AW. I wear my Nienaber mechanical watch on my left wrist as always. I love my manually wound mechanical jewel which tells time to the second and date. I wear my AW on the right wrist for all the reasons that people acquire an AW. It is NOT for the time-telling function. Perhaps you should criticize the name. It offers all the features you know which are unrelated to the information which my Nienaber mechanical watch offers. These wrist-worn instruments do NOT do the same thing. So, the comparisons of AW to Tissot auto are apples and skyscrapers. Utterly unrelated.
 
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so I have this 42mm stainless Apple Watch sitting here that I've owned 9 months but i haven't worn in a full month. i'm torn if i should sell it, but i don't exactly enjoy wearing it anymore. why?

well let's start with what i found good about the watch...

1. it looks good, and is relatively small for the size of the watch face.
2. it provides bar none the best experience receiving calls and notifications of all types from your iPhone to a watch. having limited ability to return those messages is also a big plus.
3. the interchangeable band system is great and let's you quickly customize the look of the watch.

but oh wow, the problems...

1. 3rd party applications are dog, dog, dog slow and have severe restrictions on what API's they access even under watchOS 2.2 to the point i simply don't use any 3rd party apps except for a limited few that act as complications on my main watch face to show weather for example.

2. the UI never got "easy" or elegant over time. sure i learned it but the watch is still a UI mess and the display of applications just plain stinks unless its only goal is to look nice in a glossy magazine ad for the watch.

3. the watch horribly underperforms as a fitness tracker. the lack of internal GPS requires carrying an iPhone on you during outdoor workouts and the GPS performance from the iPhone lags the accuracy from $99 GPS running watches. the workout app stinks (as do the 3rd party alternatives.) the display of fitness data to the phone is limited and inelegant. heart rate monitoring doesn't work as well as nearly every competitor's optical HR system in their watches (Garmin, Polar, Epson, Tom Tom and others) and doesn't really track all-day HR with its "every 10 minutes if you aren't moving" logic vs. for example a $149 Fitbit that logs HR every 5 seconds 24x7. fitness tracking doesn't extend to sleep at all. there is no social aspect to fitness tracking like Fitbit or Jawbone. basically fitness on the Apple Watch to me is a compromised joke for the $600 I paid and its obvious due to technology and battery limitations it won't get better until a future version of the watch and that assumes Apple will even focus on it other than glossy pictures of someone running with the watch.

4. battery life sucks that you have to charge it daily but i will admit it lasts a full day. the problem is you MUST charge it each night so forget about sleep tracking for example. also you have to hope you don't ever forget to charge it or you have a dead watch by noon the next day for sure.

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what have i found myself doing? after 5-6 months of just the apple watch i grew frustrated at the fitness issues and to a lesser extent just wearing the same darn watch daily. at first i wore the apple watch on one hand then wore a fitbit charge HR band on the other arm. i took the apple watch off during runs and used a garmin GPS watch instead (and still wore the fitbit band.) i used fitbit for social and high level full day tracking and Garmin for the specifics of individual workouts. for the last month i've abandoned both Apple and Garmin and went fully Fitbit wearing a combination of the Fitbit Charge HR band, the Fitbit Surge GPS watch, and even on occasion a Fitbit Zip clip to track my fitness, all of which sync interchangeably and which cost all together much less than my Apple Watch. The Fitbit Surge does alert me to incoming calls and texts but isn't as good as the Apple Watch, but good enough. When I want a dressier look I put on my classic mechanical watches and wear the Charge HR on the other arm, or just the Zip on my belt. For me I now have a system which solves all my fitness life challenges, gives me flexibility to wear different things in different situations, and tracks my sleep and HR properly.

the Apple Watch tried to do too much too soon and failed and nearly every goal other than looks and notifications. at least Apple is big enough and rich enough to play the long game and improve the platform in software and hardware over the coming years but for now my watch gathers dust...
 
so I have this 42mm stainless Apple Watch sitting here that I've owned 9 months but i haven't worn in a full month. i'm torn if i should sell it, but i don't exactly enjoy wearing it anymore. why?

well let's start with what i found good about the watch...

1. it looks good, and is relatively small for the size of the watch face.
2. it provides bar none the best experience receiving calls and notifications of all types from your iPhone to a watch. having limited ability to return those messages is also a big plus.
3. the interchangeable band system is great and let's you quickly customize the look of the watch.

but oh wow, the problems...

1. 3rd party applications are dog, dog, dog slow and have severe restrictions on what API's they access even under watchOS 2.2 to the point i simply don't use any 3rd party apps except for a limited few that act as complications on my main watch face to show weather for example.

2. the UI never got "easy" or elegant over time. sure i learned it but the watch is still a UI mess and the display of applications just plain stinks unless its only goal is to look nice in a glossy magazine ad for the watch.

3. the watch horribly underperforms as a fitness tracker. the lack of internal GPS requires carrying an iPhone on you during outdoor workouts and the GPS performance from the iPhone lags the accuracy from $99 GPS running watches. the workout app stinks (as do the 3rd party alternatives.) the display of fitness data to the phone is limited and inelegant. heart rate monitoring doesn't work as well as nearly every competitor's optical HR system in their watches (Garmin, Polar, Epson, Tom Tom and others) and doesn't really track all-day HR with its "every 10 minutes if you aren't moving" logic vs. for example a $149 Fitbit that logs HR every 5 seconds 24x7. fitness tracking doesn't extend to sleep at all. there is no social aspect to fitness tracking like Fitbit or Jawbone. basically fitness on the Apple Watch to me is a compromised joke for the $600 I paid and its obvious due to technology and battery limitations it won't get better until a future version of the watch and that assumes Apple will even focus on it other than glossy pictures of someone running with the watch.

4. battery life sucks that you have to charge it daily but i will admit it lasts a full day. the problem is you MUST charge it each night so forget about sleep tracking for example. also you have to hope you don't ever forget to charge it or you have a dead watch by noon the next day for sure.

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what have i found myself doing? after 5-6 months of just the apple watch i grew frustrated at the fitness issues and to a lesser extent just wearing the same darn watch daily. at first i wore the apple watch on one hand then wore a fitbit charge HR band on the other arm. i took the apple watch off during runs and used a garmin GPS watch instead (and still wore the fitbit band.) i used fitbit for social and high level full day tracking and Garmin for the specifics of individual workouts. for the last month i've abandoned both Apple and Garmin and went fully Fitbit wearing a combination of the Fitbit Charge HR band, the Fitbit Surge GPS watch, and even on occasion a Fitbit Zip clip to track my fitness, all of which sync interchangeably and which cost all together much less than my Apple Watch. The Fitbit Surge does alert me to incoming calls and texts but isn't as good as the Apple Watch, but good enough. When I want a dressier look I put on my classic mechanical watches and wear the Charge HR on the other arm, or just the Zip on my belt. For me I now have a system which solves all my fitness life challenges, gives me flexibility to wear different things in different situations, and tracks my sleep and HR properly.

the Apple Watch tried to do too much too soon and failed and nearly every goal other than looks and notifications. at least Apple is big enough and rich enough to play the long game and improve the platform in software and hardware over the coming years but for now my watch gathers dust...

I read the posts on the first page, and several people mentioned that the third party app loading would improve with future software updates. Fortunately, I saved a lot of time by passing subsequent pages and came to the end. Thanks for your thoughtful post, as I am trying to get fit again and thought the AW could replace my Polar HR monitor. Based on your post, it will not.

If AW2 comes with the needed fitness applications that I am looking for, I will be all in. In the meantime, I am going to sit this one out.
 
Not sure how to do that with words that wouldn't violate forum rules. LOL. Think about it. If you literally "wanted" in one hand and "" in the other, which one do you think would fill up first? You can want something all you want, it doesn't mean you're going to get it. (I can't believe I just had to explain something I've been hearing since birth )
Why bless your lil ole cotton pickin heart!
Haha thanks, I see what it means now. I'm from North Carolina but have never heard that saying!
 
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I used mine 10 times in 1.5 months. Not a good ratio. So I returned it. Not a good idea to buy one looking back because for a $300 (42 mm watch sale), you're looking at a watch that isn't as practical as it can be.

For starters, I want a circular device, so my Moto 360 (1st gen) can handle that for now despite not working w/ wifi on iOS yet it did on Android.

Secondly, the features Android Wear and the Gear S2 have are stuff I want: Cell Signal, full fledged independence from a phone, GPS, a good speaker, better battery life, and a more stylish design.
 
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I'm likely returning mine in the next few days. I was glad I tried it out, it's pretty cool and feels pretty future techy. There isn't anything wrong with it, I just can't justify the $525 Canadian I paid for it after taxes - just for the sport model.

For me all it really ends up being is a watch that can also skip music tracks so I don't have to pull my phone out of my pocket on transit, and a fitness tracker, which while fun is hardly necessary. Good concept and I think I would keep it if it was cheaper. Oh well.
 
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I just got mine Sunday. It's now Monday and I'm thinking of returning it. Simply because it can't send a simple emoji reply. I mean why have text as a feature if it doesn't work? Why reach for my phone? That defeats the purpose of the watch. To save time. Ugh so unhappy right now. I mean I wasn't trying not to send a voice to text msg or do anything difficult. Just a simple smile emoji. It failed 5 times today. I have full service and I'm recieving text just fine. Just not sending anything. Horrible exprerience for day 2.
*update*
I just remembered I updated my phone last night. I turned my watch off and back on and now it works fine. (FacePalm!)
 
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I'm returning mine though not for the usual reasons - well those too but chiefly because mine was missing parts. I ordered an open box that was said to be in excellent shape but when it arrived it was missing the second strap and that was what I needed to fit my wrist. I did like most of it but the battery life seems pretty poor. My iphone can go several days on a charge but the watch really needs every night. It's just another thing I have to remember to do so I'm going to wait and see what version 2 brings. I want better battery life and a display that goes closer to the edges. I don't need it thinner and I don't want to see a camera thrown in.
 
Very tempted to return mine. Not for lack of liking it. No, I really like the Space Black Watch I bought. I went ahead and got it because it was still on sale for $100 off but the the new Watch coming out later this year...I've already solidified my opinion on owning one of these. Might as well be the latest one, especially since the SBSS was still $500 on sale.
 
It doesn't feel like all the details were worked out . Why can't you change the actions of the button if you want? I wanted to customize mine and was very annoyed that I could not move the info boxes around to my liking. If I can change the info and the color why can't I move them too? Just felt half baked to me. I did not have to think about it for very long before I decided to return it and get the version 2 or something else.
 
It doesn't feel like all the details were worked out . Why can't you change the actions of the button if you want? I wanted to customize mine and was very annoyed that I could not move the info boxes around to my liking. If I can change the info and the color why can't I move them too? Just felt half baked to me. I did not have to think about it for very long before I decided to return it and get the version 2 or something else.

It's not just the end user being unable to change the functions of the buttons. Apple just hasn't opened up that kind of functionality. Even to app developers.
 
After almost a year of daily wear, I sold my 42mm SS Apple Watch. I used it mainly for workouts and notifications and while it was useful, I grew tired of waiting for "killer" apps and new watch faces. It shouldn't take over a year to allow developers to create watch faces. The control Apple has exerted over the watch is what is preventing it from really taking off. I loved the look of it and while it was thick, it was a first gen model. I just don't see Apple allowing Watch to progress quickly enough to keep up with Fitbit in terms of the social interaction. It's great to be able to track my workouts but the social graph for workouts is lacking. There just doesn't seem to be a focus from Apple on where the Watch will go. New bands are great but where's the beef?
 
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