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No, no idea about his circumstance.

I can only quote my situation. Two kids, a wife, a full-time job and a mortgage to pay. Yet I still find time to be a regular here and indulge in my Macs/PC.

Perhaps I am just an exception, I am willing to admit that. Both my wife and I are loners by nature. We can spend long periods alone and are just fine with that. We don't need to be next to each other every hour of the day. My kids were and are raised to be independent and do for themselves. They have their friends and outside interests which mainly happen at school. They aren't interested in sports - which would have them outside the house a lot. We are all pretty much a homebound lot. But no one has suffered from a lack of attention or had their needs unmet.

Yet at the same time I've always been able to find time or make time for what I care about - even if it's meant getting up at 3:30am to do it.

I am not saying you don't do for those things you value, just that I don't buy the argument about having to time.

I totally get that (edited my above comment btw) we all are speaking through our own lense.

That’s my point though. He cared & did have time as he made the video after all. But we don’t understand what else was going on. Maybe nothing & you guys are right. Conversely maybe not & as rock solid as we like to think of ourselves, external stimuli of all types has an impact on output, performance etc. that’s what I’m saying.

As a manager of people, I’ve seen it every day to varying degrees. It’s feebly easy to pull apart everything that is wrong with someone or their output on any given day or week.

Circumstance absolutely matters & we have no idea of the circumstance at the time. Note I have not disagreed with the mechanical problems of his video ie: software tweaks & fixes, broken quad etc. In that regard, you all are not wrong. I also think it is important to look at the entire body of work. His aggregate performance is not bad. This video is certainly Atypical to his greater body of work (except the sentient computer vid lol) and is why circumstance is of interest & importance in this example.

Also what is so damn amusing is the level of scrutiny for what is a free, homegrown source of entertainment. Certainly the saying “no deed of good intent goes unpunished” rings in the distance.

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As a manager of people, I’ve seen it every day to varying degrees. It’s feebly easy to pull apart everything that is wrong with someone or their output on any given day.

And speaking as an ex-manager, it's also easy to identify an underperformer and remove them from the process before the team quality slides and as their manager, establish the nature of the problem and provide support to remedy it.
 
Also what is so damn amusing is the level of scrutiny for what is a free, homegrown source of entertainment. Certainly the saying “no deed of good intent goes unpunished” rings in the distance.

It's simple - he made a factually inaccurate video presentation, I commented at the time and linked a video of mine working under load silently on his page - that's what an 'open' internet is for, to discuss and share opinions. To imply he should be free from criticism because he made the effort to make a video is ludicrous.
 
And equally, it's shameful that a huge Youtube presence like 8-Bit Guy couldn't be bothered to research the Quad and give an accurate review - effectively resulting in a hatchet-job that a lot of people would use as a definitive assessment of that particular PPC.

It's probably a 56bit hatchet job turned 8bit Quad G5?!? LOL :)
 
Let's say the Quad G5 video took 40 hours to make. Especially if time was an issue, he could have spent half an hour to do minimal research, and sacrifice that time from the video's total length. The point is the fact that the video, borrowing the Quad and everything necessarily took hours, some of which could have been used, instead, on minimal, less-than-an-hour research. The video's lack in quality was not a matter of time, but a matter of incompetence.

That's all there is to it. Want truly definite proof? When called out on the mistakes found in the video, he didn't acknowledge any of them. No willingness or concern to do better, or provide clarification, such as claiming there was "a lack of time to do better", or anything even remotely to that effect.

That is not the attitude of someone who produced a low quality video because of lack of time.
 
Both of you are wrong (Specifically in regards to his circumstance & importance vs the rigors of reality). There are many things I care about. Reality is quite different & that absolutely impacts how & to what extent I engage them. Neither of you have any idea of his circumstance at the time this video was made regardless of where he is now.

You have plenty of judgement however & you’re certainly allowed to have it. I’m asking you to simply put your time & energy where your mouth & judgements are. Make a *good* PMG5 quad video.

Respectfully of course.

:)

Sorry, but this is a terrible argument. If he had circumstances in his life that made it impossible to make a decent, well researched video on the G5, he shouldn't have pushed it through. To me, his entire attitude around the video was just that people kept asking to do the video, so he half assed it, then got angry when people rightfully pointed out the video was massively flawed, which just reaffirms to me that he never should have made it in the first place. Yes, it's free content, but that doesn't make it exempt from criticism, especially if the YouTuber in question has a large following. Because of that, the idea that the G5 is extremely slow and loud is now taken as gospel by a lot of his audience.
 
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Let's say the Quad G5 video took 40 hours to make. Especially if time was an issue, he could have spent half an hour to do minimal research, and sacrifice that time from the video's total length. The point is the fact that the video, borrowing the Quad and everything necessarily took hours, some of which could have been used, instead, on minimal, less-than-an-hour research. The video's lack in quality was not a matter of time, but a matter of incompetence.

That's all there is to it. Want truly definite proof? When called out on the mistakes found in the video, he didn't acknowledge any of them. No willingness or concern to do better, or provide clarification, such as claiming there was "a lack of time to do better", or anything even remotely to that effect.

That is not the attitude of someone who produced a low quality video because of lack of time.
Exactly. I've found most of tech review videos I've watched to be of such low quality. No research done, basic tasks or certain tasks that the device would be used for not shown at all, just low quality videos that were rushed.
 
Yeah, just rewatched the video. I'm still not upset by his content. Yeah, I see the water stains on the bottom of the case, Yeah there's ten different methods to watch YT on PPC beyond TFF, yeah he reviewed a broken ppc and didn't know it lol. Bottom line for me is was it malicious in intent? No, I dont think so. Was it factually wrong? I'll give you the claim that g4s dont really play YT - that's not entirely factual. With that being said, for an average hand-me-down user, YT doesnt really work on a g4 - not like it does on your mobile device anyhow. So aside from the OS version goof & not disclosing the box was leaking - which I think he very well may not have known of at first as it was a borrowed box, it's a video of his biased opinion, on a free platform made with a fancy camera and delectable mood lighting.

I'm trying to be insulted as a fan of PPC or upset by the video but it honestly does very little for me. Truthfully, if his video has no other impact other than getting PPC enthusiasts panties in a twist & scaring away newblets from buying a quad then that is a good thing as I highly doubt they could or would want to tackle a seal job on an LCS, I really doubt a genius bar could, and this place can always use a good jolt of envy.

I'm a fan of 8bit. I think his body of work overall is good and deserving of the following he has, response or no response and speaking of ineptitude, I'm still waiting for one of you to make a fabulously proper Quad video. I've got a sneaking suspicion that I'll be waiting a while.
 
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I think his body of work overall is good and deserving of the following he has, response or no response and speaking of ineptitude, I'm still waiting for one of you to make a fabulously proper Quad video. I've got a sneaking suspicion that I'll be waiting a while.
Not Quad, but the very first thread post contains a G5 video which pretty much delivers all of the same points with near-equal applicability. You never had to wait in the end.
 
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Yeah, just rewatched the video. I'm still not upset by his content.

Surprisingly, neither am I. I guess we can't progress further - you're happy to conclude with him that at the time the G5 Quad was obsolete for the reasons given, whereas myself and other Quad owners at the time disagreed. We had fully operational machines and he hadn't prepared for the topic and approached it as a relatively uninformed newbie - the exact opposite of all his other videos. He was demonstrably wrong - all he had to do was look at other videos online at the time.
Refuting any malicious intent and quality of his overall work wasn't even in the discussion and the churlish provocation of, If you think you can do any better...is the standard feeble umbrella against any criticism.
 
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I'm a fan of 8bit. I think his body of work overall is good and deserving of the following he has, response or no response and speaking of ineptitude, I'm still waiting for one of you to make a fabulously proper Quad video. I've got a sneaking suspicion that I'll be waiting a while.
Do you think food critics should shut up and make better food than what they're reviewing too? Because that's the kind of logic you're going by. I don't need to make a better video in order to be able to point out why his video was objectively bad. He is good at what he does, the 8 and 16 bit stuff he has more intimate knowledge of. Hence I'll repeat what I said: He shouldn't have made the G5 Quad video, it was out of his comfort zone, next to just being factually wrong.
 
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I'll try to make this quick, but speaking of the 'Mighty PowerMac G5", I still have my two Quads both with 16GB RAM and the 7800 (512MB) flashed with the Quadro ROM. The computers still work beautifully and no leaks in either LCS, but sadly they no longer get much use. There are some games I still play on them like Virtual Grand Prix 2 and 3, but I feel bad that they are going to waste. Someday I'll probably sell them to someone who might collect them or use them in some way. They were my favorite computers for a very, very long time. :)
 
The computers still work beautifully and no leaks in either LCS

I had two Quads - I bought them knowing full well about the potential LCS hazards but accepted if/when they failed I'd break the computer for parts and move on.
They never did fail, they were my daily drivers and served very well up to around 2017 when the 2nd of them was sold.
 
I'll try to make this quick, but speaking of the 'Mighty PowerMac G5", I still have my two Quads both with 16GB RAM and the 7800 (512MB) flashed with the Quadro ROM. The computers still work beautifully and no leaks in either LCS, but sadly they no longer get much use. There are some games I still play on them like Virtual Grand Prix 2 and 3, but I feel bad that they are going to waste. Someday I'll probably sell them to someone who might collect them or use them in some way. They were my favorite computers for a very, very long time. :)

I'd be more than happy to own a G5 quad as my daily driver... I've gotten along just fine daily using my 1.33ghz iBook G4
 
I'd be more than happy to own a G5 quad as my daily driver... I've gotten along just fine daily using my 1.33ghz iBook G4
That's awesome that you still use your iBook. Along with my Quads, I still have my Sawtooth G4 with matching 15" Graphite LCD that works great too. I threw in a processor upgrade to 1.5ghz instead of the original 450mhz. I just turned 45 and I admit that I am going to sound like an old man when I say this, but I miss the days of PPC Macs. It was a fun time in my opinion.
 
That's awesome that you still use your iBook. Along with my Quads, I still have my Sawtooth G4 with matching 15" Graphite LCD that works great too. I threw in a processor upgrade to 1.5ghz instead of the original 450mhz. I just turned 45 and I admit that I am going to sound like an old man when I say this, but I miss the days of PPC Macs. It was a fun time in my opinion.

I could get along just fine with even a 867mhz powerbook G4. or less. G4's are underrated for usability, I've even seen a 700mhz iMac G4 play a 720p movie just fine.
This is how people underrate PPC macs by assuming their ''junk'' and destroying them. Look at how intelligent this guy is. An eMac and an iMac G5 died terrible slow deaths.

 
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At least you can still watch 720p video on a low end G4... even if XviD is older than the standard h264

It's not the case of being older. I reference h264 because that's a common format over the web now - if you can choose your format then a G3 iMac can play 720P in an appropriate format/codec too.
 
Do you think food critics should shut up and make better food than what they're reviewing too? Because that's the kind of logic you're going by. I don't need to make a better video in order to be able to point out why his video was objectively bad. He is good at what he does, the 8 and 16 bit stuff he has more intimate knowledge of. Hence I'll repeat what I said: He shouldn't have made the G5 Quad video, it was out of his comfort zone, next to just being factually wrong.

Why yes, I do actually. You dont think Gordon Ramsey cant show you a better way of what he is critiszing? He absolutely can and does on countless occasion. There is certainly a reason why he is the amazing chef of a 3 michelin star restaurant. Those don't grow on trees yanno. He absolutely tells you it is wrong and then demonstrates the correct way to do it. As much of a rough ego damaging experience it may be, in the end he creates a teaching moment and that in turns creates respect of who he is, what he does and the knowledge base he speaks to.

We can all agree that we think the others opinion is weak. Yes, my points were not in the discussion because I thought they absolutely should have been and were sorely missing so I put them there - as popular or unpopular as they may be seen. And yes again, I absolutely believe in illustrating a superior method when criticizing. It certainly doesn't mean you're wrong if you don't, but ... well I'll say that is the difference between the mature action of a grown professional, creating & illustrating a moment of growth and a cornholio simply pointing at someone elses mistake.

But none of us are here for respect. If we were, it would be a different experience. Anyhow, I'm off to enjoy the rest of my labor holiday. Y'all have a good one. :)
 
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And yes again, I absolutely believe in illustrating a superior method when criticizing.

Presumably, you go through life where everything is absolutely amazing and 100% to your satisfaction - otherwise you'd be a film maker, an author, a mechanic, an actor, a chef, a packaging designer etc etc
 
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