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Thomas Veil said:
"Exactly why is Bond here again?"

*Yawn.*

*splutters tea* 007 is one of the greatest "fun" characters of all film-time! I completely agree with you in some aspects, but when I can turn off my critical "film-studies" mindset and view it just as a piece of fun... you gotta love it...! Me n my buddies sometimes just watch one now n then... and cheer! he's an all-action british hero! there's not many people/characters you can say that about these days...

except maybe... Tony Blair... oh wait a second... :rolleyes:
 
tombo said:
I was a bit miffed... they must have someone in mind to replace PB, as everyone know's he's very capable in the role.
I believe that Brosnan has said that Colin Farrell would be his pick for the next James Bond, for what that's worth.

But I still don't understand why they'd want to replace him. I've been a James Bond fan all my life and IMO Pierce Brosnan's Bond is second only to Sean Connery's.
 
Lyle said:
I believe that Brosnan has said that Colin Farrell would be his pick for the next James Bond, for what that's worth.

But I still don't understand why they'd want to replace him. I've been a James Bond fan all my life and IMO Pierce Brosnan's Bond is second only to Sean Connery's.

Right! That does it! i'm watching Goldfinger!!

Hob
 
Lyle said:
I believe that Brosnan has said that Colin Farrell would be his pick for the next James Bond, for what that's worth.

But I still don't understand why they'd want to replace him. I've been a James Bond fan all my life and IMO Pierce Brosnan's Bond is second only to Sean Connery's.

That's probably true. Dalton was bad and Moore was lame.
 
MacDawg said:
I'll second that. I would like to see a return to the original themes. A few gadgets here and there are OK, but lets see more intrigue.

I imagine that they are trying to go back to the original quality of Bond. They want someone younger that will have more appeal. I also suspect they want to save money.
 
MacDawg said:
I think they should make a Bond movie with Connery again, as an older Bond that has to come out of retirement, or is being chased by an old foe looking for revenge.

I guarantee that people would pay to see Connery as Bond again!
They already thought that, and did that in 1983. It did not turn out good. Toupee technology has improved, however...

Thinking of Goldeneye, Brosnan's first turn at Bond, which was the only recent Bond that was any good, I am hopeful for the next film.

It seems when introducing a new face, the filmmakers make an extra effort to actually construct a decent film for the public to get used to him. The first movie of each Bond, was often the best.
 
tombo said:
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After searching the Net it appears that there are several front-runners.
In no particular order:

Ioan Gruffud (Hornblower if you watch UK TV, King Arthur)
Jude Law
Clive Owen
Russel Crowe
Ewan McGregor
Colin Farrell
Christian Bale
Hugh Jackman
Dougray Scott

I also read a webpage that listed the Odds as William Hill sees it.. Eminem came in at 100/1 as did Robbie Williams... :D

We thought it would be better fun to think of the worst person to replace PB....
Verne Troyer... Rik Mayall... John Goodman..

but seriously, I'd like to see Clive Owen give it a shot.

Out of those names on the list, I think Jude Law and Christian Bale would be good choices, though I tend to think Bale would "look the part" a bit more. I've also heard comments about Colin Ferrel playing Bond, but I don't know if I could buy him in that role. If I ever saw Hugh Jackman playing Bond, I think I would still picture the "horns" from his hairdo on 'X Men' on top of his head :D

My vote for worst Bond replacement:
Rowan Atkinson :D Of course, I guess he already tried with "Johnny English" :D
 
Pierce Brosnan was good, a bond for my generation etc. But the last movie sucked (big time) I saw it again last week when it was on ITV and laughed nearly the whole way through. The dialogue and some of the things that happen are so bad. Why did the director feel the need to do silly slow mo pans and stuff? what because they did it in the matrix and it looked cool? yeah james bond doesn't need that, jason bourne doesn't need that and his films rocked. They need to cast an unknown british actor to lead bond forward instead of backwards which is what i feel the last film did. I love goldeneye and tmd and twine. But they need an actor who is young(ish) and happy to be typecast as james bond and then he can do 10 movies or something. But they might as well not bother if they are gonna come up with (totally) unbelievable over the top crap that is so weak that it can barely stand up. Get back to the cool bonds of old, reinvent the brand as something that is undeniably cool instead of mocked by the US.

It is possible, but it will take time and decent story/script writing.
 
Mr_Ed said:
Out of those names on the list, I think Jude Law and Christian Bale would be good choices, though I tend to think Bale would "look the part" a bit more.
Funny, I love Christian Bale, but I don't think he looks nearly "smooth" enough to work as Bond (and I've seen no acting out of him so far that indicates he can pull off the combination of playful thrill-seeker and sophisticated British suavity that is so important to bond, which is what made Pierce Brosnan and Sean Connery were so good).

Personally, the hokey-ness is hard to complain about--some of the older bond films were far sillier than any of the Brosnan films, and not nearly as much fun to watch. The problem is that after Goldeneye they've all been pretty much the same thing. I've enjoyed them, but what makes Bond so good (and long-lasting) is the variety of themes--spy thriller, big-boom action, caper movie, etc. Mix it up, guys!

Actually, TWINE probably would have pulled it off thanks to Sophie Marceau and Judy Dench, but the Nuclear Bimbo (sorry if I sound sexist/ageist, but that's the only way to describe that character) drug the whole thing down. Totally lacking the class (and chemistry) of any of the previous Brosnan Bond Girls.
 
I'd be all for seeing Clive Owen as Bond - the guy's got exactly what Connery had - classy and tough at the same time.

As far as Brosnan goes I'm glad he's out - it was almost starting to get as pathetic as Moore in "View to a Kill' - an elderly man hooking up with women in their 20's - for shame.

Now here's a thought... what if they had chosen Michael Moore instead of Roger Moore?
 
Just like they're doing with the new Superman franchise, they should pick an unknown to play Bond next. Before starring in Dr. No, Sean Connery was a complete unknown and look how that turned out...

I have been a lifelong James Bond fan. My dad, who works for the CIA, got me into it at a very early age. Connery would have to be my all time favorite Bond (no surprise there) whereas Lazenby or whatever his name is would have to be the worst. I actually enjoyed Roger Moore's portrayal of 007. I think for the time (1970s into mid 1980s), his version of Bond was well-suited. Timothy Dalton was suppose to be an edgier Bond after the campish style of Moore. While I didn't think he did a bad job, I didn't buy his potrayal of Bond.

Brosnan made a great Bond, I thought. Had he assumed the role earlier, he would have had a long career out of it. In fact, he was tapped to take over after Moore but couldn't because he had a commitment to Remington Steele. I thought the Brosnan movies got worse as they went along. Die Another Day was a joke. It's the one Bond film I refuse to buy. I can't believe they actually used CGI in it. That is just wrong for a Bond film. The villians of these most current films don't compare to the likes of Dr. No, Auric Goldfinger, Ernst Stavro Blofeld, Francisco Scaramanga, or Max Zorin.

I agree that the Bond films need to go back to their roots. The franchise needs to stand out from the rest of the action movies today. I'd love to see a Bond film with Connery as the villian. That would have the potential to be awesome.
 
aricher said:
I'd be all for seeing Clive Owen as Bond - the guy's got exactly what Connery had - classy and tough at the same time.

As far as Brosnan goes I'm glad he's out - it was almost starting to get as pathetic as Moore in "View to a Kill' - an elderly man hooking up with women in their 20's - for shame.

Now here's a thought... what if they had chosen Michael Moore instead of Roger Moore?

how can you call pierce brosnan an elderly man? even by comparison!? he was 49 when the crap that was die another day was released. But even when you say him on jonathan ross last week (in th UK) he still looked good! I am currently reading the bourne identity after seeing the films and am amazed at how good the books are. Thats what bond should be doing!
 
iJon said:
Bond has just gotten stupid over the years. People with diamonds, invisible cars, killer satellites, it's just crazy........ When I watch James Bond I don't get that feeling, too many way out there crazy things.

iJon



um, when exactly has it been totally believable dude??

it's always been out there, that's part of the coolness of it all.



it's a shame that pierce is no longer going to play the part, he was a good JB. not sure about clive owen, i like him, especially in the bmw driver shorts, but he's a little too wooden i think. jude law possibly, he has that suave thing going on, but not "tall, dark and handsome" enough though perhaps.
 
Spymit007 said:
Connery would have to be my all time favorite Bond (no surprise there) whereas Lazenby or whatever his name is would have to be the worst. I actually enjoyed Roger Moore's portrayal of 007. I think for the time (1970s into mid 1980s), his version of Bond was well-suited. Timothy Dalton was suppose to be an edgier Bond after the campish style of Moore. While I didn't think he did a bad job, I didn't buy his potrayal of Bond.
I mostly agree, but I think both Moore and Lazenby were victims of factors outside their control, namely those inevitable late 70s and early 80s influences creeping into the films (synthesizers in the soundtrack, pimps, rednecks, lasers, bad clothes, etc.), and some bad scripts. Fortunately we never had to see James disco dancing, but it was possible. I thought Lazenby was better than he gets credit for, they really screwed him by making him such a puffer. It's funny, Moore was in both some of the best and undoubtedly the worst Bond films of the entire series. Some of that was due to him, some not. Those two Bonds also were hampered from the start by having to fill the boots of Sean Connery and the difficult job of maintaining interest and originality in a series growing stale simply from being around for a half-dozen films. I tell you one thing: I don't envy the job of the producers to keep Bond fresh after all these years. It can't be easy, on the one hand you must depend on the formula for success, on the other hand if you don't take any chances, people get bored. Sticking too much to the formula guarantees a flat film where everything has been seen before, but departing too much from it risks losing the essence of Bond, which is I think what happened with Dalton when they overcompensated (although I did enjoy The Living Daylights). Then they pitted him against a drug lord with pet sharks, that was simply too much. When Brosnan stepped in there was a brief flash of perfect convergence of lead, story, and action in Goldeneye before things slowly decayed to where they are now.
 
rickvanr said:
I'd pick Jude Law... A) he's British, B) He has an allure to him that says bond...


I honestly can't picture him in the role of 007. He can definitely play up the womanizer angle. But as for hand to hand combat fighting, wielding a Walther PPK and all that other stuff, I just can't see it. Personally, I think his build is too small and scrawny. He'd need to fill out and gain a lot more muscle.

I really think they should go with an unknown for the next one. That would surely reinvigorate the franchise.

Oh, one more thing: I miss Desmond Llewelyn. His banter with Bond was some of the best dialogue in the movies (Rest in Peace, Q)...When he died, an intergral part of Bond lore disappeared. Aside from it being an overall disaster of a movie, John Cleese did do a somewhat adequate job of replacing Q in Die Another Day.
 
Jude Law and Hugh Jackman are good picks because Bond has class, and these two can play a classy Bond. He wears the suit, he picks up the girls, and he does it with charm and class. I can't see a guy like Robbie Williams, Ewan MacGregor, Christian Bale, or Russel Crowe doing that.

Jude Law and Hugh Jackman can pull it off, but I think only Hugh Jackman can come off as being tough when he has to be, so I guess my vote goes for Aussie Hugh.
 
Abstract said:
Jude Law and Hugh Jackman are good picks because Bond has class, and these two can play a classy Bond. He wears the suit, he picks up the girls, and he does it with charm and class. I can't see a guy like Robbie Williams, Ewan MacGregor, Christian Bale, or Russel Crowe doing that.

Jude Law and Hugh Jackman can pull it off, but I think only Hugh Jackman can come off as being tough when he has to be, so I guess my vote goes for Aussie Hugh.

I never thought of Hugh Jackman, he would be good too. Although, I think I might find him to humble to play a bond, i feel bond has to be snooty... I think jude law could be snooty... and he's been tough before - enemy at the gate...
 
It's simple: just have a reality television show to cast the next Bond, like they do for everything else nowadays. Might as well "cast" some Bond women on the same show while you're at it...if you know what I mean, *wink wink nudge nudge*...
 
HiRez said:
It's simple: just have a reality television show to cast the next Bond, like they do for everything else nowadays. Might as well "cast" some Bond women on the same show while you're at it...if you know what I mean, *wink wink nudge nudge*...

Man! Don't give the TV execs any more ideas for "reality" TV shows! Enough of that garbage out there already! :)

You know they would consider your idea too. Reality shows are way too profitable for them due to the low production costs. Never mind that most of it is so utterly stupid that it makes "Looney Tunes" look like Shakespeare :D
 
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