I was under the impression that this car was supposed to be the Porsche 911 Turbo killer. I.E. around a $140,000 at entry level price tag, higher production numbers, and less power. I had heard that it was going to be the new bottom end of the Ferrari line. The "California" name kind of makes me think that even more, I can't go 10 miles without seeing a 911 where I live, I hope this Ferrari doesn't make it that way. Probably won't though, I imagine the production numbers on this will still be way lower than Porsche's on the Turbo (if it is the new low end).
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The New Ferrari California
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I was under the impression that this car was supposed to be the Porsche 911 Turbo killer. I.E. around a $140,000 at entry level price tag, higher production numbers, and less power. I had heard that it was going to be the new bottom end of the Ferrari line. The "California" name kind of makes me think that even more, I can't go 10 miles without seeing a 911 where I live, I hope this Ferrari doesn't make it that way. Probably won't though, I imagine the production numbers on this will still be way lower than Porsche's on the Turbo (if it is the new low end).
robbieduncan
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It is going to be the bottom of the line car. They want to move the 430 replacement to a higher price bracket to slot between this car and the 599.
Rumoured starting price in the UK is £100,000 with is significantly more than a 911 Turbo. But then I don't imagine it'll be made in 911 Turbo numbers either...
Rumoured starting price in the UK is £100,000 with is significantly more than a 911 Turbo. But then I don't imagine it'll be made in 911 Turbo numbers either...
Lord Blackadder
macrumors P6
Beautiful from the front and in profile but the rear is less successful. At a hundred thousand pounds that doesn't make it that much cheaper than a 430 either...
The Alfa 8C is better looking.
The Alfa 8C is better looking.
Abstract
macrumors Penryn
Whoever buys this car is only going to buy it because it looks OK, and it has a horse at the front. I don't think it matters whether an Alfa looks better or not. 😉
The back just keeps getting fuglier every time I look at it. It's like some sort of deformity. I'm embarrassed to stare at it, but I can't stop looking taking a peek.
The back just keeps getting fuglier every time I look at it. It's like some sort of deformity. I'm embarrassed to stare at it, but I can't stop looking taking a peek.
yellow
Moderator emeritus
I kinda figured dudes would be buying it to extend their penis size and/or get some lovin'.
arkitect
macrumors G3
yellow
Moderator emeritus
Same as above, but for fat guys? 🙂
(I've only watched part of one episode, so that's not fair of me to joke about.. Not that it will stop me.)
Yawn. I would rather own any Porsche than an exotic. The new GT2 is faster in every way than cars twice it's price (including Lambos and Ferraris).
PowerFullMac
macrumors 601
Stridder44
macrumors 68040
Meh. I mean it's still an awesome car, but there's not much that really stands out to me. Compared to some other Ferrari concepts, it's pretty boring actually. Mmmm...
Counterfit
macrumors G3
Meh. I mean it's still an awesome car, but there's not much that really stands out to me. Compared to some other Ferrari concepts, it's pretty boring actually. Mmmm...
Ferrari Cayman? 😕
Markleshark
macrumors 603
Didn't the headlights, bonnet vents, rear cooling ducts and overly curvacious quarter panel give it away? 😕
Lord Blackadder
macrumors P6
Well... that's not actually a California, that's a 250 GT PF.
Well the new California according to Autocar is going to be slightly more expensive than a pauper spec F430 so you're looking at what... £130k perhaps?
A 250 GT California... you're going to need... a million, maybe more.
You could say that. 😛
Anyway, Autocar have posted more specs;
4.3-litre V8
453bhp
Sub-4.0secs 0-62mph
7 speed twin-clutch transmission
Ceramic brakes standard
F1-Trac traction control system
310g/km CO2
Sounds like a perfect Aston baiting machine to me.
bartelby
macrumors Core
Really?
The guy who owned it was under the impression it was a California when I asked him about it.
Maybe he didn't know...😕
Lord Blackadder
macrumors P6
Worth every penny IMHO. That shape, like so many of the classics, could never meet todays safety regs.
The biggest argument for the Ferrari against the Porsche is that everyone has a Porsche...but I have to say I've seen more Ferraris on my midwestern highways than Astons, so for exclusivity an Aston would be a winner.
But I'd take the Ferrari. Or rather, the Alfa 8C.
Thats funny, out here in Southern California there are way more Astons than Ferrari's, even in Beverly Hills and Malibu. I typically see about 15-20 Porsches, 4-5 Astons and if I'm lucky 1-2 Ferrari's when I'm out in either area.
xlii
macrumors 68000
Are these cars green? How many mpg do they get... that's all I care about in a car. They are just machines... meant to get you from one place to the next... like all machines... they wear out... you throw them away. Sorry but even if I had more money than I knew what to do with I wouldn't be buying an expensive car.
These cars don't wear out, the people that own them don't drive them enough. Its not uncommon to see a 10-20 year old Ferrari with less than 10,000 miles on it selling for more than was originally paid for it. Ferrari's can really be an investment that increase in value, can't really say that for many cars.
These cars aren't about mpgs either, if you've got $250,000 to throw down for a brand new Ferrari that you'll probably have to wait a year or two to actually recieve then you probably aren't terribly worried about the $75 it'll take to fill one up and you probably don't drive it enough to worry about the environment. People buy these to enjoy driving them once in a while, not so much to get you from A to B everyday like your Toyota Corrola (they've got a nice Bentley for that).
Lord Blackadder
macrumors P6
Throwing machines away when they wear out isn't green at all. Ferraris, like any luxury item, are about exclusivity and not environmentalism. Otherwise Ferrari would be manufacturing rickshaws out of carbon-neutral materials.
If I had more money than I knew what to do with I'd have a different one-off Ferrari for every day of the week, like the Sultan of Brunei.
Stridder44
macrumors 68040
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macrumors 68040
Aston Martin's are the most beautiful cars on the face of this planet, two decade old design or not.