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However the new MBP 13 and 15" (non-retina), drum roll please, have upgradeable RAM.

It's really simple guys. The MBPR and MBA are both too thin for the hardware to allow replaceable RAM. If you can't understand this, maybe you should stop posting here - at least until we have downvote buttons again.

Someone please close this thread.
 
To add a little sense and back on track to this thread!!


There is no doubt in my mind that the new iMac computers will have the RAM soldered onto the logic board. It's the natural evolution of where Apple are heading with their computers. The less upgradeable the computer is the quicker people will need to upgrade thus making more money for Apple.

You will all laugh now but come back to this thread in a month when you're all crying. Then you'll see. It's only a matter of time.

Could I see it happening??? YES
Will Apple do it??? Eh!!! Who knows. My personal Opinion look to the MBP. What happens in the MBP winds up in the iMac.

But given the current path they seem to be taking with the thinner lighter in notebooks I see it could be applied to the iMac. Which has used notebook components.
Now think about this!!!
THE ONLY THING you can upgrade on the current iMac yourself Without taking it apart and voiding part if not all of the warranty is the Memory. For maxed out memory soldered to the board at a cheaper price yeah i'll bite.

Now the "Next" question is will they dump the ODD in the iMac??
And
Would you be ok with soldered on RAM if they left in the ODD?
Or
Would you be ok with Soldered on RAM and No ODD?
 
Any chance doing the soldered on RAM thing would free up enough space to use desktop graphics perhaps? That'd be amazing, and I would easily give up user upgradeable RAM for desktop GPU.
 
Any chance doing the soldered on RAM thing would free up enough space to use desktop graphics perhaps? That'd be amazing, and I would easily give up user upgradeable RAM for desktop GPU.

I doubt if the extra space would make a difference in a computer the size of the iMac, as opposed to a MacBook. I don't think Apple will provide soldered RAM in the next iMac (whenever it appears), but I guess I'd be OK with it if it came with a lot of RAM (at least 16GB) and it didn't add too much to the cost.
 
Any chance doing the soldered on RAM thing would free up enough space to use desktop graphics perhaps? That'd be amazing, and I would easily give up user upgradeable RAM for desktop GPU.

I used to think that this might be possible until I saw how big a proper desktop card actually was. Those things are huge, and probably wouldn't fit in the chin of the current design (due to thickness, width, and ventilation area) even if it was the only thing in there.
 
A bit over dramatic with the writing style but it's a fair point.

I don't think apple would go out of their way to remove the ram slots but they won't go out of their way to keep them either. If the iMac looks a bit more like the thunderbolt display, with no chin room and maybe a thinner enclosure, then I could see them dropping the user access door if it gets even slightly in the way of design.

Apple views computers differently than they once did. Computers used to be inherently upgradable. Apple even promoted full accessibility and replaceable parts in the first G5 iMac design. Those days are long gone. :(

I hope the OP is wrong but if the delay is due to a redesign then it's unfortunately a real possibility. The retina MBP has been selling fast and Apple will take that (with the success of the MBA) to mean that customers just don't care about the loss of upgradability. They have also carefully softened the blow (and resulting bad reviews) by tuning down the factory upgrade price - it's still over-expensive for extra ram but not quite the laughable rip off it used to be. Apple may have manipulated this somewhat, but they can easily show that the market is saying that upgradable ram just isn't a necessary feature anymore.
 
All of you should click on the OP's profile and note "threads started". He makes troll threads like this all the time.
 
You will all laugh now but come back to this thread in a month when you're all crying. Then you'll see. It's only a matter of time.

In a month you will come back and create a new user name here because of embarrassment.

You can count on that !!!!!
 
Da****? o_O

Will somebody tell me (the new one), what soldered RAM is? o_O

No what RAM is, but "soldered" RAM??
 
The last computer to use ' soldered in RAM ' was the COLECO ADAM.

Maybe also the Timex Sinclair but that was before the ADAM.
 
Man, if they do this I'll be pretty bummed. My initial plan was to buy a custom iMac but with the lowest possible RAM, and then get some chips on the cheap from Amazon.

IMO, I don't see them doing this. In the laptops it is done as a space saving move, and I don't see Apple going all space saving on the iMac anytime soon.

At least, I hope not!
 
Apple know soldered RAM is no big deal. Away from this forum, what percentage of real world customers ever upgrade RAM during the lifetime of a Mac? I bet it's in the single figures.

This. I also believe Apple will do this to the iMac one day. I definitely agree that the number of power users in this forum and on the internet who want to customize their iMac is in all likely hood dwarfed by the mass numbers of customers who actually don't, which is the most important statistic to note here.

People arguing that space saving isn't important for the iMac, should take a look a the innards of an iMac and see how compactly and effectively Apple has already engineered the components to fit in such a tightly enclosed space. Space is dramatically saved and efficiently used whenever possible, just as much as any Macbook, and even the Mac Mini. The only machine in Apple's lineup that adheres to this design philosophy more loosely is currently the Mac Pro. However looking at the iMac's design history over the years will give a clear progression and direction in size and thinness.
 
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