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There will be little solder-bots inside each port that auto-solder any plug inserted into the port. Or a small thin-walled capsule of gorilla glue inside each port, and on each exterior table-top pad. That little S.O.B. is SOLID!
"Waterproof once you connect anything to each port – just once! There is no step two!"
 
5400 spinner, but upped to 2TB. Single core Pentium. 16GB Ram, soldered. One USB C port. Smaller box. And, the big one, it comes in any RGB color you wish! #WWTTFF LOL!
 
I can't say I can imagine the end of this thread ... but in the best scenario I imagine we'll be churning at the bit about what crazy things Apple did to the Mini ... crazy good will be the second iteration of the new Mini when I finally believe it actually happened and decide it's safe to buy.

(you know I'll grab the first one that blows my 2012 away!!)
 
I can't say I can imagine the end of this thread ... but in the best scenario I imagine we'll be churning at the bit about what crazy things Apple did to the Mini ... crazy good will be the second iteration of the new Mini when I finally believe it actually happened and decide it's safe to buy.

(you know I'll grab the first one that blows my 2012 away!!)
Just go back to when the 2014 downgrade was released. There was PLENTY of activity in this thread.

Do we honestly think that Apple will provide one of the two sought after updates?
  1. More compact mini that still packs a punch - quad core option, updated ports, still with glued in components, but is as small as the AppleTV
  2. Similar form factor - quad core option, updated ports, and RAM/Storage to be user serviceable

we are certainly going to receive option #3
  • Similar form factor, updated ports, VERY expensive quad core option that will require a combo of an expensive RAM/storage update, glued in components. Basically a 2014 with updated ports and an expensive CPU upgrade option.
 
So... have you heard anything regarding the Mac Pro?
(Honest question)
Sorry, i've heard nothing at all, other than it will actually be modular (for some reason people are misinterpreting this term). But that makes the reveal even more exciting. It's possible that we'll see a reveal at the October event but I think WWDC 19 is more likely.
 
Yes I have inside info on the matter, and that I hope that timely report from Ming-Chi Kuo somewhat proves this.

It is quite unbelievable that, my username considered, you thought my statement:


Was based on nothing.
Are you serious? Can I change my username to GenuinelyTimC and expect people to hang off my every word?

Best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour. Apple's behaviour on the Mini (and Pro) over the last 5 years has been grossly underwhelming, to put as politely as possible.

Until they behave otherwise, I remain sceptical. I'll believe the new Mini and Pro when I see them. Only sane position to take in the circumstances.

If you really are an Apple insider, then pass this message back up the line: A slightly updated version of the 2014 model Mini just to shut us up ain't gonna cut it. And don't ever again treat your desktop user base like you have over the last 5 years.
 
Are you serious? Can I change my username to GenuinelyTimC and expect people to hang off my every word?

Best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour. Apple's behaviour on the Mini (and Pro) over the last 5 years has been grossly underwhelming, to put as politely as possible.

Until they behave otherwise, I remain sceptical. I'll believe the new Mini and Pro when I see them. Only sane position to take in the circumstances.

If you really are an Apple insider, then pass this message back up the line: A slightly updated version of the 2014 model Mini just to shut us up ain't gonna cut it. And don't ever again treat your desktop user base like you have over the last 5 years.
You're right but my point was focused on my certainty, with my username being an indication that it is not just a guess.

I somewhat understand the scepticism with the Mac mini, myself and now Ming-Chi Kuo have stated that it will happen but there's been nothing official from Apple. But as for the Mac Pro, I don't know why there is any skepticism there since Apple has talked about it themselves and even given a release period.

The best predictor of future behaviour is also from leaked information on their future behaviour. As for basing it on past behaviour, I would agree with you but with Apples very public Mac Pro situation and the immense amount of negative press regarding Macs and Apples attitude to the Mac lineup in general, I think a turning point was evident. However you're right in the sense that they have been ignoring the Mac mini in those communications, excluding it from desktop discussions.

As for the desktop user base, I completely agree, it's a disgrace and without doubt, down to Tim Cook. But I think he got the message in late 2016 and we're seeing the results of that this year. I know the new mini was not seriously worked on until after that point, so perhaps it was part of Tim Cooks realization of the Mac lineup.
 
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If I was guessing, I would have started with 'I think' and not said something with such certainty, that should it not be true, I would lose all credibility (although judging from you that would make little difference).
You incorrectly predicted the MacBook Pros would be lowered in price at WWDC, with such certainty. Otherwise your predictions (at least the recent ones I've seen) have all been based off existing rumors or safe guesses.
This is not a case of predicting the number of cores, I simply said that in response to others who said it wouldn't be quad-core. I am not saying to be 'astonished' that I was right, I am just saying that it was not a guess and I do have info on the matter.
The higher-end models should be hex-core, not quad-core. The higher-end 2012 Mac mini did use the same chips as the 15" MacBook Pro.

But like the majority of us following this thread, I don't have that much faith in Apple's commitment to the Mac mini...
 
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You incorrectly predicted the MacBook Pros would be lowered in price at WWDC, with such certainty. Otherwise your predictions (at least the recent ones I've seen) have all been based off existing rumors or safe guesses.

The higher-end models should be hex-core, not quad-core. The higher-end 2012 Mac mini did use the same chips as the 15" MacBook Pro.

But like the majority of us following this thread, I don't have that much faith in Apple's commitment to the Mac mini...
No, I predicted MacBook (in terms of the line) price cuts this year with certainty, and I stand by that. If I made it seem like I was certain it would be at WWDC, that was my mistake. My assumption that is could happen at WWDC was based purely on the purported launch of the low cost MacBook by Ming-Chi Kuo. I have no real knowledge on that notebook other than reaffirming that it is part of the 'MacBook' line rather than 'MacBook Air'.

Like I said you can believe what you want, but if my stance on the Mac mini prior to todays report doesn't indicate otherwise, I don't know what will. The only safe guesses I can think of is saying the next refresh of [insert Mac here] will get a processor upgrade.

I didn't mention the high end models, but if we're talking about variations then it's entirely possible that a low end model remains dual-core to achieve around the same entry price, either through an i3 or 7th gen chips. Either way there will be a differentiated line.

I always thought the 'A new Mac mini is almost certainly NOT coming' was the thread for those with no faith in Apple producing another Mac mini but I guess I was wrong. But to have little faith in Apples commitment to the Mac mini is understandable. And I kind of agree, after this year, who knows what will happen (or not happen). I would expect a spec bump to be likely next year but they could go off the rails again, especially with the focus on the Mac Pro in 2019.
 
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What is the value of guessing when you should have the benefit of planning. Whether or not an individual has inside information is simply "filler" while we endure a travesty of sound advise. Apple's best game experience is "the new Mac Mini is almost certainly coming" which is a ****ing shame.

IT functionality and it's benefits hinge on "communication, empowerment and capability" all of which have been reduced or severely concocted to benefit Apple.
 
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I didn't mention the high end models, but if we're talking about variations then it's entirely possible that a low end model remains dual-core to achieve around the same entry price, either through an i3 or 7th gen chips. Either way there will be a differentiated line.
It would definitely be a disappointment if they go with a dual-core i3 8109U for the base model and don't offer hex-core for the higher-end models. But it's hard to expect any better for the Mac mini following this period of neglect.
 
It would definitely be a disappointment if they go with a dual-core i3 8109U for the base model and don't offer hex-core for the higher-end models. But it's hard to expect any better for the Mac mini following this period of neglect.
As a pessimist I am sure that they are looking at the Atom, Celeron, and Pentium processors for the mini. They don't want to cut into the new Mac Pro sales.
 
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