The new Mac Pro pricing is preposterous!

[cmaier]

You're right. I was confusing another thread with this one. Here it went:

Q. why Apple raised the prices
A. monopolists
S. Monopolies = illegal. (I should have said "bad")
S. No they aren't.
S. Some are.
etc.

Ok.

But monopolies are not inherently bad, either. Monopolies set standards, and standards are necessary for progress. It wasn't until monopolies took hold that personal computing really took off. It's only when monopolies are abused that they are bad. For example, product tying, predatory price-setting, etc.

And all of that is merely a distraction from the fact that you're imagining Apple monopolies where none exist, and imagining illegal, immoral, or unfair behavior where none exists.

 

[Tesselator]

Tesselator - you said what you said. You also said there's nothing in the apple os x license agreement that prohibits using OS X on non-Apple machines, and suggested that if there were that would be illegal, too - two more untrue statements.

Well this is turning into a petty back and forth I certainly didn't intend. But no that's not what I said. I said I read it and didn't see anything about that. I said I thought such things would even be illegal.

Both true statements.

 

[ZunePod]

So even though the top range one out-performs an 18 EHz (Exso-Hertz (18^7Hz)) Supercomputer, you don't like it.

Bearing in mind that the Supercomputer costs around $900,000 and is used for scientific calculations and the folding of protein etc.

 

[cmaier]

Well this is turning into a petty back and forth I certainly didn't intend. But no that's not what I said. I said I read it and didn't see anything about that. I said I thought such things would even be illegal.

Both true statements.

Heh heh. Semantics.

Fine. So:

1) your reading was wrong. I provided the exact language in question;

2) your thought is wrong. It's not at all illegal.

 

[Tesselator]

Ok.

But monopolies are not inherently bad, either. Monopolies set standards, and standards are necessary for progress. It wasn't until monopolies took hold that personal computing really took off. It's only when monopolies are abused that they are bad. For example, product tying, predatory price-setting, etc.

And all of that is merely a distraction from the fact that you're imagining Apple monopolies where none exist, and imagining illegal, immoral, or unfair behavior where none exists.

I understand why you think this to be the case based on the few messages that have been exchanged but it's not really. I don't think Apple has a monopoly - at least not a very large or strong one. I think the morality of Apple's actions is whatever it is. I haven't really looked. Morality is so subjective anyway. Unfair, yes. I think it's unfair of them to hike the premiums so much higher than they were last year. But I'm here trying to figure out why... not point fingers really. I dunno why they did this and that bothers me as much or more than them actually doing it. Is it the economy? Is Intel sticking it to them this time around? Have they moved key productions back to the USA? Have they just become so greedy? Is it that they're actually planning to release a personal atomic computer and need the R&D funds? I dunno... but I want to.. so, I reach, I discuss, and I learn. I don't actually very often assume tho.

 

[Tesselator]

I provided the exact language in question;

You did? I missed that too. Dang! Where at? In this thread?

 

[Pika]

Tesselator... I think you should go back to your Linux box.

 

[cmaier]

You did? I missed that too. Dang! Where at? In this thread?

another thread. (the thread where you made your incorrect assertions). It's section 2 of the license agreement:

2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions.
A. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time.

 

[Tesselator]

Tesselator... I think you should go back to your Linux box.

But I dig OS X... And Amiga OS.

another thread. (the thread where you made your incorrect assertions). It's section 2 of the license agreement:

2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions.
A. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time.

OK, well, I missed that. Sorry.

It's not just semantics though. An "I think..." remark begs correction & verification and includes uncertainty while an "It is..." statement is presented as fact. A little more than semantics at work here wouldn't you say?


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