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Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by scotttnz, Nov 21, 2016.
If HP was looking to hit the high end home market (high end for price and convenience, not necessarily power) it looks good.
HP isn't aiming at the Pro market with this system (they have systems far more capable for that).
Apple has one system - the MP6,1 - which is too expensive for the high end home market, and too weak for the high end content creators. Apple have created a lose-lose situation for themselves, and an opportunity for HP with the Z-series.
xeon chips? dual workstation GPU's? PCI-E ssd standard? quiet fans? Most importantly, macOS?
Didn't think so. But I know this board will still think its better
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"Note that you can’t officially open the Pavilion Wave—you choose your configuration (if buying through HP.com) or buy a pre-built SKU and that’s all you get, with no future upgrading available."
I see they've embraced Apple design philosophy and are running with it.
I didn't realize that Apple used workstation GPUs in any system. Taking 5 year old Radeons and calling them "FirePro something or other" is deception, not innovation.
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And they're marketing it for the wealthy home users who would never open it up.
Whereas Apple is closing off their systems, and pretending to aim it to the pro market.
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That looks horrible...
Why? It looks like an MP6,1 with a built-in Bose speaker.
If it looked exactly like an Apple box - you'd call it a ripoff. If it's not a ripoff, you call it horrible.
Yeah, it is obviously not aimed at the pro workstation market, but it's design does have some resemblance to the not so new Mac Pro.
It's the sort of consumer desktop I might buy if Apple made it. I don't need a Mac Pro, don't want and integrated screen, need more than a Mini, and want macOS.
I guess I just don't like how carpeted computers look, haha. I also hate computers with a tiny formfactor, which is why I hate the 2013 Mac Pro too... The PowerMac G5 through 2012 Mac Pro design is by far the most beautiful desktop computer, IMO. Functional, zero holding back, and gorgeous.
DeskTOP? I have never seen a desktop Mac Pro.
A "desktop computer" is a non-portable computer designed to stay at a desk. "Desktop" doesn't mean the computer chassis needs to fit on top of a desk.... My goodness...
Is it wise to put a powerful speaker right next to a mechanical HDD? Seems the vibration may cause issues.
Well let me fix that for you...
WTH that thing is FUGLY!!!!
I would get the MSI vortex over that.
They have a nvidia 1080 in them now.
At least it doesn't look like a trashcan! It looks like a wastebasket!
Yet again, both AMD & Nvidia rebrand their Radeon & Geforce cards for workstation graphics. Notably the Firepro / Quattro cards. Even on PC Workstations. Its not an Apple thing.
On the PC side, it's a bit different, the workstation card may has different driver, ECC RAM, and better support etc.
However, in Apple, the so called workstation card has zero different than a gaming card. Same deviceID, same performance, same function, same driver, same support, only different name.
You're right except for function- the AMD cards in the mac pro are tuned and optimized for openCL performance in apps like FCP X and Davinci Resolve. More tangibly, they are also a different form factor than the 280x's they are based on
My understanding is that "AMD" cards are tuned, but not only the workstation cards are tuned. Both the D700 and R9 280X has exactly the same optimisation and OpenCL performance in FCPX etc.
Different form fact is unarguable. However, that's more like Apple v PC, but not workstation card vs gaming card.
And now the new Mac Mini Pro....
HP are doing some interesting stuff now
This HP Z2 is intriguing. I wish they had a thunderbolt 2/3 connection though.
Then I'd have the classic "take my money already" meme
That thing is a bit ridiculous ... and I can't stand the speaker at the top idea ... or speakers in my PC in any way in general.
I believe all if not most of the PowerMac G3/4/5 series had a speaker, not of course the primary speaker system, but enough for the Mac startup "Bong"/"Chime", granted it seems to be on the way out.