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The New Structure

Macman45

Macman45

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A much better structure to the sections now. Although I rarely visit the iPhone boards, this should make for an even playing field with those wishing to discuss alternatives to i-devices having their own section.

Well done!:)
 
The new structure layout looks good and serve as a practical way to discuss iOS and other types of phones and their OS's.

Good job!
 
I highly recommend the use of prefixes in that forum, as it will cut down in the confusion
 
Does the existence of the " Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices " Forum pretty much prove that Apple has something to fear? It sure seems like it because 1) Alternative product discussions tend to be fads based on cool new products and 2) Apple hasn't really done anything worth talking about lately. So the idea of discussing competing/alternative devices to the ones we own should be encouraged rather than hidden away in a corner in order to protect the feelings of people who refuse to look at the changing world around them.

Just sayin...
 
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Hopefully this will be better for all users. I for one think it will be.

Time will tell ;)
 
Thank you mods! :) I've been waiting for a separate sub-forum. Hopefully this will make discussion of non Apple devices more helpful rather than just circular arguments over and over again.
 
urkel said:
Does the existence of the " Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices " Forum pretty much prove that Apple has something to fear? It sure seems like it because 1) Alternative product discussions tend to be fads based on cool new products and 2) Apple hasn't really done anything worth talking about lately. So the idea of discussing competing/alternative devices to the ones we own should be encouraged rather than hidden away in a corner in order to protect the feelings of people who refuse to look at the changing world around them.

Just sayin...
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It sounds to me like you're over-simplifying and polarising the issue.

The existence of the new forum is nothing more than an indication that there's so much discussion of comparison and competing products here that it makes sense to give it it's own section. It's hardly hidden away, we've made a forum-wide announcement to let everyone know about it. ;)

This change is beneficial to all: those who prefer to have (for the most part) Apple-only threads in the iPhone forum, will have it that way now. And those who want to discuss competing products or compare them with Apple products will no longer have their conversations interrupted by off-topic posts complaining about the threads' existence.

There's a lot of traffic in that part of the forums; dividing it up makes sense.
 
Definitely the right move

I won't gloat and mention I saw the need for this change a long time ago...

OK, maybe a little. :D I know I posted on this topic some time ago (more than a year) but it's been lost to the archives apparently.

In any case, one suggestion, keep an eye out for the passive-aggressive trolling in the iPhone forums. That approach was pretty rampant and was, for whatever reason, highly irritating to me.

If the mods are vigilant and keep moving alternative threads to the alternative area, then the trolls will move on.

Now, as a potential indicator of why this move was good:

At the time of this writing, I see:

iOS: 641 viewing
iPhone: 1336 viewing
iPad: 502 viewing
iPod touch: 158 viewing
iPod: 73 viewing
Alternatives: 28 viewing

Yep, that's right, there are 3 times the people viewing the iPod forum vs. the "alternatives" forum. :p
 
annk said:
Yeah, the problem with announcements is that even though you can make one in all forums at the same time, they're at the very top, where no one looks!
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I barely caught it myself, but I saw the initial post in the Spy this morning so I was sort of looking for it. If the icon
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were a little bigger and maybe brighter, it'd be easier to spot.

Or do an announcement in the white area centered at the top of every page like when MacRumors was looking for new writers.
 
Excellent news! Thanks to the team of MR for creating the subforum. Hopefully this will give everybody what they want from MR. Peace to all. :)
 
a nice improvement which help to reduce the noise in topics one is interessted. thanks ! :) :)


ah, one more thing: can we make one sub forum for all patent- or trademark-related topics; it would make it easier to ignore, too :rolleyes:
 
Brilliant, brilliant and brilliant.

The continual improvements and the way that the staff/admins/mods respond to user feedback and input are one of the many reasons I love this forum.

If more forums I frequented were as receptive to user feedback as this site I'd be happy.

Keep it up! :cool:
 
The trend is holding:

iOS: 753 viewing
iPhone: 1501 viewing
iPad: 511 viewing
iPod touch: 221 viewing
iPod: 93 viewing
Alternatives: 19 viewing

It's clear that people aren't coming to MR to read up on Android and other competing technologies. They're here to read about Apple technologies.

My theory has been that there's a small but extremely vocal group of people that have been taking some sort of joy out of dropping non-Apple topics right into the midst of Apple conversations, on an Apple board.

e.g., trolls.

Now, without an opportunity to present their message and viewpoint to the Apple audience, mostly they'll be gone.

The distribution of the readers would seem to bear this out pretty clearly.
 
smithrh said:
...My theory has been that there's a small but extremely vocal group of people that have been taking some sort of joy out of dropping non-Apple topics right into the midst of Apple conversations, on an Apple board.

e.g., trolls.

Now, without an opportunity to present their message and viewpoint to the Apple audience, mostly they'll be gone.
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There's also been a small but vocal group who have consistently made it difficult to discuss competing products, by posting off-topic comments in threads ("why are you posting this here?", "go find an android forum", "this is macrumors, not androidrumors" etc).

That's also a form of trolling, and I'm hoping it will also stop now. ;)
 
Don't like the iOS hacks category. I think there needs to be separate categories for iPad, iPhone, and iPod touch because they are such different devices. It is going to be too overcrowded IMO.
 
annk said:
There's also been a small but vocal group who have consistently made it difficult to discuss competing products, by posting off-topic comments in threads ("why are you posting this here?", "go find an android forum", "this is macrumors, not androidrumors" etc).

That's also a form of trolling, and I'm hoping it will also stop now. ;)
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Ahhh yes - the counter trolls. Just about as bad, yay, even worse than the original trolls. Certainly not a fan of that either.
 
I think it is pretty decent of Macrumors to give Samsung/HTC/Google/ whatever shills access to the forums.

I wonder how many android forums have an "alternative to android" section? Just guessing, but I'd say zilch.
 
I like the addition of the "alternatives" sub forum, but I do not at all like the combining of iPhone hacks and iPad hacks into one sub forum. The devices have different release cycles and there are hacks that apply only to one class of device or the other. Baseband unlocks, for instance, are entirely irrelevant to iPad hackers; and advice that might be perfectly fine on an iPad-only forum could be devastating to an iPhone user who needs an unlock.

I can understand that there may be some posts in the iPhone hacks section that will be relevant to the iPad, and vice-versa. But I think that the risk of added confusion and bad advice is greater. And, frankly, I find the flood of iPad-related threads that I have absolutely no interest in incredibly annoying.
 
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