The New Structure

[jav6454]

A much better structure to the sections now. Although I rarely visit the iPhone boards, this should make for an even playing field with those wishing to discuss alternatives to i-devices having their own section.

Well done!

Truth be told, I like it now more than before.

 

[quasinormal]

I know Android Central has this covered.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/other-gadgets-cross-platform/
There was really no need for the "shill" jibe.

I'm sorry. I was wrong and yes the shill jibe was uncalled for. My apologies again.

 

[annk]

Don't like the iOS hacks category. I think there needs to be separate categories for iPad, iPhone, and iPod touch because they are such different devices. It is going to be too overcrowded IMO.

I like the addition of the "alternatives" sub forum, but I do not at all like the combining of iPhone hacks and iPad hacks into one sub forum. The devices have different release cycles and there are hacks that apply only to one class of device or the other. Baseband unlocks, for instance, are entirely irrelevant to iPad hackers; and advice that might be perfectly fine on an iPad-only forum could be devastating to an iPhone user who needs an unlock.

I can understand that there may be some posts in the iPhone hacks section that will be relevant to the iPad, and vice-versa. But I think that the risk of added confusion and bad advice is greater. And, frankly, I find the flood of iPad-related threads that I have absolutely no interest in incredibly annoying.

If you only want to see threads that apply to a certain device, you can use the "Find threads with prefix" feature in advanced search when you're in the iOS Hacks forum.

 

[Sir Ruben]

Im willing to bet that you will begin to see less Android threads created with this new setup.

As much as many will try and deny it, a lot of the posts that were created in the iPhone forum were to try and wind people up and try and boast some sort of superiority over the massively successful iPhone. Even many that at first appeared to be sincere. You only had to read further into the thread to see the true motives of the post.

Now that happy iPhone owners will no longer have to read such rubbish it will dwindle fast. Lets be honest, with the arrival of the new iPhone, thats probably a good thing.

 

[maflynn]

Im willing to bet that you will begin to see less Android threads created with this new setup.

I think you'll see an ebb and flow. Right now with google announcing the Nexus 7, and Jelly Bean there's lots of activity. Once iOS6/iPhone 5 hits the streets, the iPhone forum will get wicked busy and the iOS alternative forum may quiet down

 

[smithrh]

I think you'll see an ebb and flow. Right now with google announcing the Nexus 7, and Jelly Bean there's lots of activity. Once iOS6/iPhone 5 hits the streets, the iPhone forum will get wicked busy and the iOS alternative forum may quiet down

I wouldn't confuse posting (activity) with interest. We all know that trolls talk more than they listen.

Of the 13,322 people on the forums right now, only 25 are looking in the "Alternatives" section.

The trend for the Alternatives section to be almost devoid of readers has held up for days now.

 

[Sir Ruben]

I wouldn't confuse posting (activity) with interest. We all know that trolls talk more than they listen.

Of the 13,322 people on the forums right now, only 25 are looking in the "Alternatives" section.

The trend for the Alternatives section to be almost devoid of readers has held up for days now.

Personally I think the fun has been taken out of the trolling. Who would want to troll in a sub forum when its missing its target audience?

 

[VulchR]

There's also been a small but vocal group who have consistently made it difficult to discuss competing products, by posting off-topic comments in threads ("why are you posting this here?", "go find an android forum", "this is macrumors, not androidrumors" etc).

That's also a form of trolling, and I'm hoping it will also stop now.

I prefer to think of it as a form of peaceful protest. But on my part such posts will stop.

 

[Sir Ruben]

Id love to be able to see figures of how many Android posts are started in the iPhone forum each day that will now be moved to the sub forum. I imagine it will be quite a few.

 

[smithrh]

Personally I think the fun has been taken out of the trolling. Who would want to troll in a sub forum when its missing its target audience?

If you read my previous posts in this thread, that's exactly my supposition as well.

 

[Hellhammer]

I prefer to think of it as a form of peaceful protest. But on my part such posts will stop.

I often find such posts to be more annoying than actual trolls. Especially when people post it multiple times in the same thread:

1. "Why are you posting this in MacRumors?"
2. "Why are you still here? Go back to your cave droid"
3. "Why aren't mods doing anything?"

At that point, I find more justification to punish that poster instead of the one who started the Android talk. The ban button was just one click away...

 

[thelatinist]

If you only want to see threads that apply to a certain device, you can use the "Find threads with prefix" feature in advanced search when you're in the iOS Hacks forum.

This assumes that people are going to correctly prefix their posts. A laughable assumption, in my opinion.

And if you will notice, most of my comments were about things that had nothing to do with my own posting or viewing behavior. You do not at all address the fact that advice given by people who know only the iPad can be very detrimental to people who have iPhones, especially software unlocked ones.

 

[Tilpots]

Bravo mods. A line has been drawn and the flow is better for it. A place for everything and everything in its place. It might create more effort up front, but the long term payoff for all members will be enormous. The community needed structure and you have provided it. Thanks for addressing this issue.

 

[utahman130]

If you only want to see threads that apply to a certain device, you can use the "Find threads with prefix" feature in advanced search when you're in the iOS Hacks forum.

Yes, but some people don't use prefixes.

 

[Sir Ruben]

I often find such posts to be more annoying than actual trolls. Especially when people post it multiple times in the same thread:

1. "Why are you posting this in MacRumors?"
2. "Why are you still here? Go back to your cave droid"
3. "Why aren't mods doing anything?"

At that point, I find more justification to punish that poster instead of the one who started the Android talk. The ban button was just one click away...

All's well that ends well

Just come from the iphone forums and cant help but be impressed at how tidy it is in there now with people asking sensible questions about using their phone abroad etc.

Maybe one day if I ever decide to go back to an Android device I'll dip into the sub forum that you kindly created for our guests, after all MacRumors was becoming THE place for Android info lol

 

[annk]

This assumes that people are going to correctly prefix their posts. A laughable assumption, in my opinion.

And if you will notice, most of my comments were about things that had nothing to do with my own posting or viewing behavior. You do not at all address the fact that advice given by people who know only the iPad can be very detrimental to people who have iPhones, especially software unlocked ones.

Yes, but some people don't use prefixes.

As you both indirectly point out, members do have some responsibility for how the forums work. How members word thread titles and how they use the tools available to them (prefixes) make a big difference to their fellow members.

 

[VulchR]

I often find such posts to be more annoying than actual trolls. Especially when people post it multiple times in the same thread:

1. "Why are you posting this in MacRumors?"
2. "Why are you still here? Go back to your cave droid"
3. "Why aren't mods doing anything?"

At that point, I find more justification to punish that poster instead of the one who started the Android talk. The ban button was just one click away...

For the record I was never so rude as to post something like 2 or 3. The first item maybe....

 

[ChazUK]

There's also been a small but vocal group who have consistently made it difficult to discuss competing products, by posting off-topic comments in threads ("why are you posting this here?", "go find an android forum", "this is macrumors, not androidrumors" etc).

That's also a form of trolling, and I'm hoping it will also stop now.

It seems the new board is still brining up this kind of post.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/15336906/

But WHY are you here? I would never join an Android forum and tell everyone how I think the iphone is better, EVER. Because im not a tool and I have a life. It's like hating hot weather but moving to Florida, it makes no sense. You guys love arguing and trying to prove your phone is better. Well let me tell you that you won't prove that to us because we don't have Android phones/nor want them. So please step off.

 

[annk]

It seems the new board is still brining up this kind of post.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/15336906/

Just report'em and we'll deal with it (you don't have to report this one ).

 

[ChazUK]

Just report'em and we'll deal with it (you don't have to report this one ).

Will do.

 

[Calidude]

I don't think its a coincidence that the Alternatives board went up after iOS6 and the longer-screened iPhone was shown. iPhone users are really starting to get fed up with the iPhone.

 

[dejo]

I don't think its a coincidence that the Alternatives board went up after iOS6 and the longer-screened iPhone was shown.

You might think it's not a coincidence but you'd be wrong. It was.

iPhone users are really starting to get fed up with the iPhone.

iPhone users were even more fed up that the MR forum was being cluttered with non-iPhone threads.

 

[nuckinfutz]

I don't think its a coincidence that the Alternatives board went up after iOS6 and the longer-screened iPhone was shown. iPhone users are really starting to get fed up with the iPhone.

Well we had to have a place for Calidude posts right? Since you, and Android owner, post more threads about iPhones that the average iPhone owner.

Be happy you have your sanctuary to extol your RDF

 

[Calidude]

iPhone users were even more fed up that the MR forum was being cluttered with non-iPhone threads.

Which resulted from the evidence being shown that the iPhone would have a taller screen and accelerated when iOS6 was shown off.

People complained when iOS4 came out, and when iOS5 came out, but nowhere near the extent after iOS6 was shown to the public following the leaked casings. It only got out of hand after those 2 developments.

iPhone users weren't just making "Android threads", they were making "Why the hell is the iPhone screen taller" threads and "iOS6 is bad in such and such a way" threads and "The new design isn't different enough" threads.

 

[Comeagain?]

Which resulted from the evidence being shown that the iPhone would have a taller screen and accelerated when iOS6 was shown off.

Are you saying that it was a bad idea to report Apple news and demo a new Apple product?