iPod touch The Next iPod Touch

[zim]

with the months/weeks/days getting hotter, I am trying to rely less and less on my laptop and more on my iPod Touch as my go to device for news, email, and entertainment.. using it more has got me feeling that the one thing that I would love most is the new screen.. I can deal without a camera, internal mic etc.. a new screen would be the way to go since the new apps for iOS4 are designed for it.. I say the screen has to be the one thing that is a definite and I bet we will see the same screen in the iPad as well.

I'd also like to see someone design a fan that could be attached to the doc connector.

 

[liamkp]

So I have an iPod touch 3G. Do you guys think the usual "sell right before the update" will apply? So many people seem to be uninformed about the September update, so I'm guessing I could get $220-$250 for my 32GB.

I must have the iPhone's display. At least to hold me over until a Verizon iPhone.

Most likely, it matters were you sell it.

I would like it but it wouldnt be huge.

 

[Outrun1986]

I haven't followed the current trends but you might want to sell that ipod RIGHT NOW for maximum value, the only other good time to sell it presumably if you are using ebay or some other online selling website would be right before Christmas. Again I haven't followed pricing trends for Ipods, you could get more during Xmas than before the update possibly, if you absolutely have to keep your iPod until you get the next one then you might want to hold off till the holiday season to sell the old one. Just don't sell right after the new one comes out, that will be the worst time.

For electronics in general, I have found you can get more on ebay during the holiday season than any other time, lots of people will still buy the old version of whatever you are selling for whatever reason they have. I usually hold off on selling things until the holiday season especially if they are current things.

I think for pretty much every store and product they are gonna tell you a new one is not gonna come out or a release will be delayed if it is a confirmed release date just to make a sale right then and there. Its up to the consumer to be informed at this point, if you are gonna drop $200 or $300 on a product I would hope you are informed about what you are buying.

I agree, its a 100% chance that some sort of new iPod touch will be released in September with the yearly iPod announcement.

 

[liamkp]

You probably should sell it right now and you could probably get the value you want for it.

 

[Ace134blue]

I was just reviewing the new iPhone's innovations. I think a lot of these iPhone innovations definetly rub off on the Ipod Touch 4G. Such as:

Camera, definetly
Maybe facetime
Multi Tasking
Better Res, maybe not HD, but better
App Folders
Ability to change your springboard
Reintroduction of 16gb storage capacity

Just Maybe

Definitely No camera and no facetime.
Seriously enough of "Is the ipod gonna get a camera" People have been asking that since before the release of the 2nd Gen Ipod touch, and guess what.. it never got one. And it wont this next release either.

 

[liamkp]

Definitely No camera and no facetime.
Seriously enough of "Is the ipod gonna get a camera" People have been asking that since before the release of the 2nd Gen Ipod touch, and guess what.. it never got one. And it wont this next release either.

Why not? It was supposed to have one in the 3rd gen.

 

[Outrun1986]

Its a lot cheaper now to add a camera than it was in 2008. It would be very beneficial for apple to add a camera to the touch, even if it is just a rear facing one. It would make more apps work like barcode scanning, and it would increase sales by a ton since pretty much everyone who already owns a touch would go out and buy a new one (especially if people have been asking for a camera since 2008).

No one knows if it will get a camera or not, heck I do not know for sure and no one else does, so you definitely cannot count it out for sure until the official annoucement is made.

 

[liamkp]

I still think it will, people know for sure like Jobs.

 

[Kantosam]

How is this going to work on the iPod Touch? Right now, Facetime is only available when making calls from the iPhone 4. The Touch has no ability to make or receive calls. The only way this will be possible is for Apple to broaden the use of Facetime by creating a mobile iChat app for iOS 4 and allowing Facetime to be used with that app.

No one corrected this? Facetime is not dependent on "making calls." It is a WiFi-based connection. I mean I have a 2G iPod Touch right now and make calls all the time via Skype through my WiFi network at home.

On

an

iPod

Touch. (Not an iPhone)

So, aside from the larger question regarding the inclusion of a front facing camera (I guess that remains to be seen), incorporating Facetime would otherwise be a no-brainer for the next gen. iPod Touch. Again, Facetime is WiFi, not 3G.

 

[liamkp]

No one corrected this? Facetime is not dependent on "making calls." It is a WiFi-based connection. I mean I have a 2G iPod Touch right now and make calls all the time via Skype through my WiFi network at home.

On

an

iPod

Touch. (Not an iPhone)

So, aside from the larger question regarding the inclusion of a front facing camera (I guess that remains to be seen), incorporating Facetime would otherwise be a no-brainer for the next gen. iPod Touch. Again, Facetime is WiFi, not 3G.

I just learned this today, so actually im saying "yes" to facetime on the new ipod touch.

 

[NSWMaps]

No one corrected this? Facetime is not dependent on "making calls." It is a WiFi-based connection. I mean I have a 2G iPod Touch right now and make calls all the time via Skype through my WiFi network at home.

On

an

iPod

Touch. (Not an iPhone)

So, aside from the larger question regarding the inclusion of a front facing camera (I guess that remains to be seen), incorporating Facetime would otherwise be a no-brainer for the next gen. iPod Touch. Again, Facetime is WiFi, not 3G.

You have misinterpreted what he said. Right now, on an iPhone 4, to make a facetime call one goes to the phone app, makes a call, and taps the FaceTime button. There is no phone app on the ipod touch. How would apple add facetime then? they would have to broaden things up a bit, perhaps add in an iChat app, or else have a dedicated FaceTime app.

 

[Ace134blue]

Why not? It was supposed to have one in the 3rd gen.

No it wasnt.
Anyways, when have you seen a mp3 player with a camera? Never.
It wont happen, if you want a camera buy an iphone or get a real camera.

 

[maclook]

Anyways, when have you seen a mp3 player with a camera? Never.

 

[ct95]

iPod nano has a camera and it is more purely an mp3 player than the touch. The touch really is not primarily an mp3 player. It has that function, but is much more a multifunctional device. It should be renamed the iTouch.

The problem is that without the camera, there isn't a compelling enough reason to upgrade to iPod touch 4th gen from previous generations. iPod is still one of the major product lines. It is one of the three legs of Apple (Mac, iPod, iPhone) and needs to be kept fresh and new. Without the camera, I would just stick with my current 2nd gen iTouch.

No it wasnt.
Anyways, when have you seen a mp3 player with a camera? Never.
It wont happen, if you want a camera buy an iphone or get a real camera.

 

[iMichaela]

No it wasnt.
Anyways, when have you seen a mp3 player with a camera? Never.
It wont happen, if you want a camera buy an iphone or get a real camera.

Then how do you explain the little nook in the 3rd gen fitted so right for a camera?

Apple would be stupid not to add a rear camera to the iPod touch.

iPod nano.

 

[Kantosam]

You have misinterpreted what he said. Right now, on an iPhone 4, to make a facetime call one goes to the phone app, makes a call, and taps the FaceTime button. There is no phone app on the ipod touch. How would apple add facetime then? they would have to broaden things up a bit, perhaps add in an iChat app, or else have a dedicated FaceTime app.

Yes, I probably did, but I think it's understandable: RW wrote:

... Right now, Facetime is only available when making calls from the iPhone 4. The Touch has no ability to make or receive calls.

Of course that's not true, I make and receive calls all the time on my current, humble, 8 gigger IPT. But, I get the idea. Still, it would take relatively very, very little effort to bridge facetime via a "phone app" such as Skype, right?

 

[Ryuu117]

Its a lot cheaper now to add a camera than it was in 2008. It would be very beneficial for apple to add a camera to the touch, even if it is just a rear facing one. It would make more apps work like barcode scanning, and it would increase sales by a ton since pretty much everyone who already owns a touch would go out and buy a new one (especially if people have been asking for a camera since 2008).

No one knows if it will get a camera or not, heck I do not know for sure and no one else does, so you definitely cannot count it out for sure until the official annoucement is made.

Steve Jobs knows. It sucks because Apple product holders right now are killing themselves waiting and anticipating new items that Apple has behind some black curtain and can't unveil until the last second, leaving us all in uncertainty.

 

[speedfreak007]

ofcourse it will have A4 and the same amount of ram (every ipod touch is faster than the iphone made in the same year, so it will be the same this year). Camera is definitely going to be there. and maybe retina (i think they should do this because if they don't put a retina in the ipod, it will divide the community even more and that is not something apple wants).

 

[GroundLoop]

My opinion...

The iPod Touch 4 will be exactly the same as the iPhone 4 except:

It won't be a phone
It won't have GPS
It will remain with a 64 GB top end
And it will likely not have a front camera (Facetime, while wi-fi only still requires that you to be in a call to initiate it)
It may be slightly thinner

There is no reason to differentiate anything else as it would only segment the App Store even further.

GL

 

[bjengel]

Please Give Me Facetime!!!

To me, it all comes down to the Facetime capability.......

I have never owned a Ipod Touch - I've been looking at (and drooling over) them for 2 months now and I was all set to get the 3rd Generation 64GB version. Then the Iphone 4 came out with the Facetime feature and I decided to hold off and wait for the Ipod Touch 4th Generation to come out this September.

My decision is pretty easy - if the new Ipod Touch version has the Facetime feature, I'm getting the 4th generation unit. If it does not, then I will be picking up the 3rd generation unit (probably at a reduced price once the 4th generation unit comes out).

I think the new unit will definitely have the newer/upgraded display that the Iphone 4 has as well as the gyroscope. Those two features were just made for video and gaming....... which is what the Ipod Touch is all about. If somebody wants a MP3 player, they could save a bit of money and just get a Nano, I think the Touch is becoming more of a mobile computer / multimedia device.

Please, or please, Mr. Jobs - please give me the Facetime feature in the new Ipod Touch!!!!!!

 

[GroundLoop]

My opinion...

The iPod Touch 4 will be exactly the same as the iPhone 4 except:

It won't be a phone
It won't have GPS
It will remain with a 64 GB top end
And it will likely not have a front camera (Facetime, while wi-fi only still requires that you to be in a call to initiate it)
It may be slightly thinner

There is no reason to differentiate anything else as it would only segment the App Store even further.

GL

 

[bjengel]

My opinion...

And it will likely not have a front camera (Facetime, while wi-fi only still requires that you to be in a call to initiate it)

GL

Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't this be accomplished with Skype?

The thing that I keep going back to on why the Touch will have Facetime is because of what Steve Jobs said at WWDC - that there will be tens of millions of Facetime devices by the end of the year.

There is no way that they can produce and sell "tens of millions" of iphones by the end of the year........ so the Facetime application/feature has to be coming out in other devices this year - so far, to me anyways, that means the Ipod Touch (cross-fingers)

 

[GroundLoop]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't this be accomplished with Skype?

The thing that I keep going back to on why the Touch will have Facetime is because of what Steve Jobs said at WWDC - that there will be tens of millions of Facetime devices by the end of the year.

There is no way that they can produce and sell "tens of millions" of iphones by the end of the year........ so the Facetime application/feature has to be coming out in other devices this year - so far, to me anyways, that means the Ipod Touch (cross-fingers)

Considering that historically the iPod Touch has trailed the iPhones functionality year to year, I would assume that the front facing camera will not be part of the package.

The iPod Touch is moving more toward a games machine than a communication device. Right now, the singular purpose for the front facing camera is FaceTime. If there are app developers out there that can turn it into something more (facial recognition secure login, MS Kinect-like entertainment) I, personally, do not see a need for this functionality.

Once Apple introduces FaceTime functionality into an iChat update on OS X (which I believe will happen once they figure out how to establish the connection between a phone and a PC), there will be "tens of millions of Facetime devices"

As for Skype, I am beginning to believe that Apple would rather push FaceTime over Skype, to strengthen their market position and to establish the FaceTime set of protocols as the "standard".

GL

 

[Ryuu117]

It's not exactly official Apple art, but what do you guys think? Note, this is NOT my work.

 

[liamkp]

I'm now thinking that the 4G is going to have facetime/front camera(just learned that facetime is through wi-fi.).