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clayjohanson said:
Good grief... Christopher Eccleston has apparently QUIT, after filming just one episode (27x01) as the 9th Doctor.

Did you read the article? He filmed an entire season, 13 episodes, over 8 months.

But still, one season is pretty short. Really short. Being concerned about typecasting after one season strikes me as rather prima dona-ish. Any actor SO concerned about that probably shouldn't sign up in the first place.

--Eric
 
Eric5h5 said:
Did you read the article? He filmed an entire season, 13 episodes, over 8 months.

But still, one season is pretty short. Really short. Being concerned about typecasting after one season strikes me as rather prima dona-ish. Any actor SO concerned about that probably shouldn't sign up in the first place.

--Eric
Hmm... maybe I was thrown off by this quote:
Then late Wed. night the BBC confirmed that Christopher Eccleston has quit as Doctor Who after just one episode of the new series.
Hard to tell if that means he shot the entire season, or just a single episode.
 
clayjohanson said:
Hmm... maybe I was thrown off by this quote:Hard to tell if that means he shot the entire season, or just a single episode.

What they really mean is after one episode airing on BBC1, he spent 8 months filming the entire series of 13 episodes.
 
I used to watch Dr. Who every chance I could get. I won't pirate it (despite my avatar :) ) But I do hope the new series comes here to America... if it's any good. Not the Dr. Who was ever consistently good, but who cares? :D

By my count, they've now burned through lives 1 - 9 so the Tenth Doctor would be next. (And then there's the evil Doctor Twelve and a Half... I really must have watched the show too much if I know that :D )
 
nagromme said:
I used to watch Dr. Who every chance I could get. I won't pirate it (despite my avatar :) ) But I do hope the new series comes here to America... if it's any good. Not the Dr. Who was ever consistently good, but who cares? :D

By my count, they've now burned through lives 1 - 9 so the Tenth Doctor would be next. (And then there's the evil Doctor Twelve and a Half... I really must have watched the show too much if I know that :D )


wow I'm so behind the times. There's a new series? I guess I should've read up on what this thread was on about.

lol we should do a typical fanpoll, on "Who was your favorite Doctor?"

Mine would be Tom Baker

edit: wow I am behind, it's been years, maybe a decade... that's one hot assistant he has. Who is she?
 
clayjohanson said:
Good grief... Christopher Eccleston has apparently QUIT, after filming just one episode (27x01) as the 9th Doctor.
It's a shame he's quit, but at least there's another 12 or 13 episodes to be aired (including the xmas special)

I quite enjoyed Cassanova, which starred actor David Tennant - the possible replacement!

Anyway, if there's a new doctor there should be a new assistant! No more of this Billie Piper nonsense, I want Rachel Stevens!! :D
 
HydroMan said:
He's really messed it up as the Doctor is only able to regenerate 12 times

I remember seeing an interview with one producer or another, many years ago back in the 80s, asking about this very concern. (Before the show was cancelled and it seemed like it would just go on indefinitely.) He said they could probably work something out. It is a TV show after all. :)

Favorite? The other Baker, Colin. I loved the sarcasm.

--Eric
 
hob said:
Matrix? Brain? Plug? Were you watching the same show as the rest of us? It's called Doctor Who....... I've probably just put my foot in it big time having never watched much of the old stuff, but seriously - from what i've seen, how does it compare to The Matrix? I'd love to see Jon Pertwee try and do Bullet Time...


Yep, you did [foot in mouth]. But everyone does from time to time here. In the 70s era episode "The Deadly Assassin", the Doctor finds himself fighting for his life inside THE MATRIX, which is the computer that holds the entire knowledge of his people's [the Time Lords] civilization. It is a repository. And when a Time Lord enters The Matrix, they find themselves in a virtual reality landscape. The Doctor once again fought for his life inside The Matrix during the 80s era season entitled "The Trial of a Time Lord," where the Time Lords once again put him on trial for his life for his persistent interference in the affairs of others.

So no, the Hack-o-Skis didn't come up with anything new with their so-called Matrix Trilogy. It stole directly from Doctor Who, as well as from what David Goyer penned in "Dark City." And they then lifted the FX of Blade. Hence my total disdain for that movie series.
 
CanadaRAM said:
Eh. One definition of copyright is that the copyright holder has the right to determine when, how and to whom the property can be published. Embedded in that right is the right to withold it from publication, and to charge for publication differently in different markets.
"It ain't available here" is no defence for piracy.



First off, the show isn't available in the States because SciFi passed up on airing it, not because the BBC wants to restrict it from airing. I am a Doctor Who fan and my downloading and posting positive word-of-mouth on American websites has done nothing to jeopardize the BBC's copyright. In fact, my actions have raised the profile of the show here and I've asked people to write to SciFi directly (programming@www.scifi.com) and petition them to buy the American *broadcast* (actually, *transmission*) rights. I've watched the show so I know its strengths and its weaknesses so its not like I'm an uneducated rabid fan who is advocating it being shown without actually having watched it myself. If the BBC had its download-and-purchase option available TODAY, I would pay to watch the episode streamed to my computer or my TiVo, but the service is not available TODAY. And rest assured, when the DVDs hit the [American] market, I will be purchasing them. So seriously get off your high-horse about copyright violation. It isn't copyright infringement here in the States because 1. the BBC is not a member of the MPAA, and 2. the series has not been licensed for the American market yet. It resides in the "gray area" of copyright here in the States.
 
Doctor Who question: someone referred to "the time lords"... but in this weeks episode The Doctor said "there was a war... I'm the last of my kind"...? I never knew that before this week!

Hob "Doctor Who Newbie"
 
nagromme said:
By my count, they've now burned through lives 1 - 9 so the Tenth Doctor would be next. (And then there's the evil Doctor Twelve and a Half... I really must have watched the show too much if I know that :D )


The Time Lord High Council has the power to grant an entire new regeneration cycle to a Time Lord if they so choose. The Council offered such a deal to The Master in order for him to aid the Doctor during the events of "The Five Doctors' special.

However, with this in mind, I'd like to see a new plot device used in the new series...that being "degeneration." The 8th Doctor - Paul McGann - should return. Despite what some fans have said about the 1996 Telefilm, McGann's portrayal was *spot on* and he truly was robbed of the chance to portray the Doctor for several seasons. He should not be condemned to being the "George Lazenby" of Doctor Who. If others feel the same, please post on the BBC's user forums.

I'd say Eccleston is running the risk of being tagged "the British David Caruso" based upon his recent actions...
 
hob said:
Doctor Who question: someone referred to "the time lords"... but in this weeks episode The Doctor said "there was a war... I'm the last of my kind"...? I never knew that before this week! Hob "Doctor Who Newbie"


I didn't catch that in Episode 1...is that in Episode 2 that will air in the U.K. in another hour?

Apparently, in the modern BBC book series, the Time Lords and their planet Gallifrey were wiped out of the timeline so they never existed...this places the Doctor in a precarious situation as being the only Time Lord. Perhaps Russell T. Davies chose to accept this storyline as canon. Eccleston hinted as such in interviews. However, there's nothing preventing the Doctor from restoring the planet and his people at some future point. The 7th Doctor (Sylvester McCoy) tricked the Daleks into using The Hand of Omega and in turn, the Daleks home planet of Skaro was obliterated when "The Hand" caused Skaro's star to go supernova. Yet Skaro was back in existence at the beginning of the 1996 Telefilm.

If you need more background information, go to Wikipedia and look up "Gallifrey," "Time Lords," "The Doctor," "Skaro," "Daleks," "Tardis," "Rassilon," "The Master," etc. and of course, "Doctor Who."

Here's some other resources:

www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho

www.gallifreyone.com

There were several screenplays commissioned in the early 90s when Amblin Entertainment was to make a Doctor Who theatrical film. One of them was entitled "Doctor Who - Last of the Time Lords" where Gallifrey was destroyed. A writer at the BBC also created a scripted called "Gallifrey" where the planet was destroyed, effectively making the Doctor the last of his kind. I believe it was written during the 5th or 6th Doctors' timeframes, which would've served as a series finale since Michael Grade at the BBC was so intent on cancelling the program(me).

Other Time Lords that have appeared in the show's history (and separate from Gallifrey) include: The Rani, The Monk, Professor Chronotis (sic), Romana, and The Master, and Glitz.
 
Lynxpro said:
However, with this in mind, I'd like to see a new plot device used in the new series...that being "degeneration." The 8th Doctor - Paul McGann - should return. Despite what some fans have said about the 1996 Telefilm, McGann's portrayal was *spot on* and he truly was robbed of the chance to portray the Doctor for several seasons. He should not be condemned to being the "George Lazenby" of Doctor Who. If others feel the same, please post on the BBC's user forums.

I'd say Eccleston is running the risk of being tagged "the British David Caruso" based upon his recent actions...

I completely agree, except even "degeneration" isn't necessary. Paul McGann could still be the eighth Doctor, and we would just be seeing the "lost adventures."

Too bad it'll never happen....

--Eric
 
Anybody see the 2nd episode on BBC TV tonight?

What was it like? Is it living up to expectations?
 
hob said:
Matrix? Brain? Plug? Were you watching the same show as the rest of us? It's called Doctor Who....

... I've probably just put my foot in it big time having never watched much of the old stuff, but seriously - from what i've seen, how does it compare to The Matrix?

I'd love to see Jon Pertwee try and do Bullet Time...

Season 14, The Deadly Assassin -- Tom Baker ep.

Again, Season 23, The Ultimate Foe (part of the Trial of a Timelord episodes -- Colin Baker ep.

Probably a few more, but there we are.
 
Lynxpro said:
First off, the show isn't available in the States because SciFi passed up on airing it, not because the BBC wants to restrict it from airing. I am a Doctor Who fan and my downloading and posting positive word-of-mouth on American websites has done nothing to jeopardize the BBC's copyright - blather - If the BBC had its download-and-purchase option available TODAY, I would pay to watch the episode streamed to my computer or my TiVo, but the service is not available TODAY. And rest assured, when the DVDs hit the [American] market, I will be purchasing them. So seriously get off your high-horse about copyright violation. It isn't copyright infringement here in the States because 1. the BBC is not a member of the MPAA, and 2. the series has not been licensed for the American market yet. It resides in the "gray area" of copyright here in the States.

Bulltweet.

Copyright has nothing to do with
1) MPAA
2) Whether it is unreleased in your neck of the woods or not
3) Whether you think it is a gray area or not
4) Whether you are willing to wait for the release or not, or "would have" paid for it if it were only available.

Unless the BBC releases it to the public domain, they own the rights - nothing you have stated diminishes those rights. When you copy it without the copyright holder's permission, you violate the copyright.

The US is signatory to a number of multilateral international copyright agreements, including with the United Kingdom, which means that the BBC's UK copyright is protected by convention in the USA
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ38a.pdf

US Copyright Basics: http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html
 
I love Dr. Who. I basically love the British. I may want to live there one day for an entire year and soak up the Old English culture. Are the folks there nice and what's the economy like?
 
Blue Velvet said:
What was it like? Is it living up to expectations?
Yeah, kinda... Really looking forward to the conclusion of the fourth story tonight, Aliens in London. :eek:

The characters have become a lot less annoying (Read: Billie), and a lot more balanced (Read: The Doctor) in subsequent episodes. Rose's family, though, still makes me want to punch the TV -- and not in a good way.

Christopher Eccleston is carrying it. Without him (fearing for the next season) it'd be unwatchable.
 
Lacero said:
I love Dr. Who. I basically love the British. I may want to live there one day for an entire year and soak up the Old English culture. Are the folks there nice and what's the economy like?

Didn't you know?

Doctor Who is a documentary, it all went down exactly like that...

We don't eat strangers anymore.
 
I've been enjoying the series so far - I'm glad we're getting here in Canada!

I would prefer though if they went back to the old system and had multi-part episodes all the time. Sometimes an hour just doesn't seem like enough, and that they are rushing a story with a lot more potential. I really enjoyed the epic-ness of some of the older Doctor Who episodes and the cliffhangers, when you knew that thew entire story wasn't going to be wrapped up in 45 minutes.

As for my favorite Doctor, Tom Baker of course, although Colin Baker gets points for being a bastard - I think he had more potential, it's too bad the series ran into rough waters when he was in the role.
 
~Shard~ said:
I've been enjoying the series so far - I'm glad we're getting here in Canada!

I would prefer though if they went back to the old system and had multi-part episodes all the time. Sometimes an hour just doesn't seem like enough, and that they are rushing a story with a lot more potential. I really enjoyed the epic-ness of some of the older Doctor Who episodes and the cliffhangers, when you knew that thew entire story wasn't going to be wrapped up in 45 minutes.

I've been thinking the exact same thing. I'm enjoying it, but the one hour limit makes it feel too shallow. Plus there was that whole issue of spreading 2 hours over a month adding too the tension. I remember hating it when the music came on and realizing it was going to be a week until I found out what happened next!

As for my favorite Doctor, Tom Baker of course, although Colin Baker gets points for being a bastard - I think he had more potential, it's too bad the series ran into rough waters when he was in the role.

Make this another vote for Colin. Of course Tom Baker is most people's "classic" Doctor, but I quite like Colin Baker in his stint.
 
stcanard said:
I've been thinking the exact same thing. I'm enjoying it, but the one hour limit makes it feel too shallow. Plus there was that whole issue of spreading 2 hours over a month adding too the tension. I remember hating it when the music came on and realizing it was going to be a week until I found out what happened next!

Yah, there's something to be said about that. Maybe the producers didn't want it being too "soap opera like" or something this go around. Of course, that was the formula that worked pretty darn well for 20+ years when the show initially aired!

I especially liked some of the Pertwee episodes which were 6+ parts. And then there was that whole search for the Key of Time in the Baker years which went on forever - but was very cool - very epic. :cool:

stcanard said:
Make this another vote for Colin. Of course Tom Baker is most people's "classic" Doctor, but I quite like Colin Baker in his stint.

Yah, as I said, me too - I think he got a bit of the shaft though due to the circumstances at the time, what with the show going on hiatus and all... That whole "Trial of a Time Lord" thing was cool, but they could have done a lot more with him. "The Doctor we never really got a chance to know."
 
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