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macdaddy121 said:
The announcers were discussing how they played it on the jumbo-tron and that is how the ref probably saw it. I would assume most of them saw it on the big screen.

It was never shown on the big screen.
 
MacsRgr8 said:
Maybe Materazzi has some broken ribs!! hahahahahahaha :p :p :p


and a trophey to go with them.......

Atlasland said:
It was never shown on the big screen.


I heard the announcers say that it was and he didn't think that it should have been. Maybe I misunderstood what he was saying but the announcers were saying how the official that supposedly saw it might have actually seen it on the big screen. I'm just reporting what I'm 99% sure I heard.
 
i am utterly shocked.

for most of the game though, we saw a great game, and congratulations to Italy: while i thought they were outplayed most of the game, they certainly deserved to come as far as they did, and that's the great thing about the world cup: any given day, any team can win, and Italy certainly did that.

but i am still shocked. i cannot believe Zidane did what he did.
 
macdaddy121 said:
I heard the announcers say that it was and he didn't think that it should have been. Maybe I misunderstood what he was saying but the announcers were saying how the official that supposedly saw it might have actually seen it on the big screen. I'm just reporting what I'm 99% sure I heard.
I wouldn't listen to what the stupid U.S. announcers were saying they're morons. I seriously doubt it was shown on the screen, as they have never shown controversial things on the screen at any game I've been to.

Oh, and in defense of Zidane, if you see the whole video, you see he was walking away, there was something else said after he tried to walk away that made him react. Now I'm not saying his reaction was a good reaction, but this was his last game and the world cup final, I'm sure his emotions and adrenaline were super high. I'm sure 2 seconds after he did it he regretted it, but he's not to blame for France losing.
 
Both Domenech and Lippi said that it was the fourth official who saw it on a TV screen (I don't know what TV) and alerted the referee.
 
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very disappointing

some sources say he left in tears, sad...but he got what he deserved and possibly more
 
lu0s3r322 said:
look at the longer replays, Materazzi appears to be holding Zidane and possibly squeezing his nip. then saying something offense to zz. thats maybe why.

Yeah. that's what it looks like to me too - though I'd say it the other way around: it looks like M is squeezing Z's nipple and possibly holding. Sod 'obligations' to team and country, Z's response was just stupid in any situation - even if M was playing with his nipples.

I didn't much care who won this game. I was slightly partial to France, hoping they'd exact revenge for Italy beating Germany, but after Z's sending off I was ambivalent. Anyway, the best team out there didn't win today, which is a shame. Henry should have been man of the match really.

yt
 
jakochampolska said:
At first I was totally disapointed in Zidane. But now that I thought it over I really feel bad for him :( And I think that Zidane wouldnt just head butt him without a reason. I think there was some racial slur or SOMETHING that provoked him into doing that. Poor guy. He must of been totally depressed because he didnt even come out for the awards .

Agree.

I feel very sorry for ZZ.
 
I am very disappointed that Italy won this tournament...

This team got into the final by luck and unsportsmanlike actions on and off the field. I guess everybody knows the long list I am talking about. This is a very dark ending for an overall wonderful tornament. Italy didn't deserve to become World Champion, especially since France was the better team in the final game.

The italian players are well known for their instant provocations on the field. Zidane speaks italian and I am sure Materazzi was pushing it all the time to make Zidane tick out. I would really like to know what Materazzi told Zidane right before his head-butt.

The bribe scandal in Italy? That's the spirit how Italy became World Champion... Why would they act differently in this tournament anyway? At least some of the players will find themselves (hopefully) in the 3rd league after this summer...

I am very disappointed.

groovebuster

P.S.: Please don't tell me that I only think that because Italy beat Germany in the Semi-Finals. I always respect when the better team wins. But better team includes many more things than just the final result on the field...
 
What a bitch move...grabbin his nipple. He deserved the headbutt. Too bad it cost France the game.
 
groovebuster said:
I am very disappointed that Italy won this tournament...

They were the only team to beat the hosts in the best match of the tournament... always you get this wishful revisionism about who really deserved to win.

Fact is, it's the result that counts. Nothing less.

And as far as Zid Vicious is concerned, this is a player long accustomed to playing in Italy. Nothing excuses his behaviour.
 
Blue Velvet said:
They were the only team to beat the hosts in the best match of the tournament... always you get this wishful revisionism about who really deserved to win.

Fact is, it's the result that counts. Nothing less.

And as far as Zid Vicious is concerned, this is a player long accustomed to playing in Italy. Nothing excuses his behaviour.

Agreed, Blue Velvet and thanks for starting such a great thread! Over 2100 posts...Man, that's longer then the "Powerbook G5 Next Tue." threads! :eek:

I would like to add that France scored with a penalty against Portugal and a penalty against Italy. Regardless if they were deserved or not, the French did not put the ball in the net without a free kick. Italy did score two nice goals against DE and one against France.

Also, I suspect that the extra time against Germany was felt by the Italians in the second half and that is why they didn't grow like they did in the other matches
 
Eeesh... am I knackered this morning!

Running around Soho/Trafalgar Square shouting really takes it out of a girl... and staying up to watch the replay to see the trophy being presented probably wasn't the most sensible of ideas!

Have also now dried out... (literally and metaphorically!) :D

It's a pity that the cover picture of most of the press this morning has a miserable Zidane rather than the joyous Cannavaro

Just read that Zidane wins the Golden Ball... In my view, that headbutt should have disqualified him from the award. I wonder how many of the votes were placed before that event.
 
Blue Velvet said:
They were the only team to beat the hosts in the best match of the tournament... always you get this wishful revisionism about who really deserved to win.
I didn't mean necessarily that Germany was supposed to win the tournament, if that is what you are trying here... I just know that Itaöly did not deserve to become World Champion...

Blue Velvet said:
Fact is, it's the result that counts. Nothing less.
Of course, but for me it also counts how somebody wins. This is not a war, it is sports. And even in a war there is some codex involved (or at least it should be). In my opinion it is negative asdvertisement for football in general that Italy won the tournament.

Blue Velvet said:
And as far as Zid Vicious is concerned, this is a player long accustomed to playing in Italy. Nothing excuses his behaviour.
I didn't want to excuse his bevaviour. But you shouldn't forget about the inexcusable behaviour of the italian team as well. To act like *******s all the time does not seem to count for you...? In a very emotional situation (like this game was) you can get every person to tick out when you are pushing the right button. This is no question of being accustomed to something like that. Verbal offenses in my book are on the same level as physical attacks.

groovebuster
 
groovebuster said:
I just know that Itaöly did not deserve to become World Champion...

Who then? Argentina? Brazil? Germany? Deserve has nothing to do with it.
 
groovebuster said:
I didn't mean necessarily that Germany was supposed to win the tournament, if that is what you are trying here... I just know that Itaöly did not deserve to become World Champion...
Get over it. Why have a World Cup if you're going to argue with the result? Just hold a raffle.

Of course, but for me it also counts how somebody wins. This is not a war, it is sports.
Somebody should have told Zidane that.

Verbal offenses in my book are on the same level as physical attacks.
He's done it before. The guy should have the book thrown at him. This is not the way millions of "sports fans" should be encouraged to respond to real or imagined slights. The fact tht he may or may not be good with a football has nothing whatever to do with it. This was a potentially serious physical assault in the most public setting possible. UNACCEPTABLE under any circumstances. What's that saying about "sticks and stones"?
 
skunk said:
No, I think you'll find it was a test of skill.
A penalty shoot-out out a test of skill? With only top players like in the italian and french team?

OK, I'm outta here... But there is a thing I learned from this thread:

You are not allowed to express your own opinion without harvesting a certain extent of hostility...

Very surprising and also sad.

Now you can tap each other's shoulder how smart you are...

Bye!

groovebuster
 
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