He's not talking about Applehe's talking about their deal with O2 in the UK, where the plans available if you want an iPhone really are pretty lousy.
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He's not talking about Applehe's talking about their deal with O2 in the UK, where the plans available if you want an iPhone really are pretty lousy.
My experience is the exact opposite.
I don't miss my Treo or my Blackberry.
I am far more productive on the iPhone - consistently productive
Heaven forbid the paying customers get what they want instead of what some faceless suit, whose phone bill is company-paid, gets what he wants.
Paying customers come first. It's nice to see the customer finally getting their wants put first, which is only fair as the paying customers keep the companies in business. It's a shame that it took someone to basically force them to play ball, but sometimes a little slapping is what it takes.
Paying customers come first. It's nice to see the customer finally getting their wants put first, which is only fair as the paying customers keep the companies in business. It's a shame that it took someone to basically force them to play ball, but sometimes a little slapping is what it takes.
I was thinking the same exact thing.
I was also thinking about Steve Ballmer in the interview saying it was the most expensive phone in the world. I didn't think it was wise for him to be in an interview in the first place.
I don't know about you and what you knew, but 99% of what the iPhone could/couldn't do was known before they were available. It was announced 6 months in advance, remember? Why did you buy an iPhone if it lacked so many things you needed in a phone? Seems like if you Treo was doing a great job, you would've stayed with it.
Also -- "copy/paste, BT file transfers, video recording, editing" -- those are all software issues that more than likely will all be addressed this year. As far as taking 3 clicks to the number pad -- you omit to state that while that might a slight inconvenience, how much easier navigating around the multi-touch screen is, not to mention how cool. Honestly, there's no cover on the phone so it has to be locked. I used to a "*-2" (I think) to unlock my phone so that was two button pushes to be able to dial so you're honestly complaining about ONE EXTRA tap?
Sounds like you should sell your iPhone and go back to the Treo.
In Canada, you also pay $25 per month for just the 4MB data add on with Rogers... *sigh*
The iPhone and it's phone plans are not badly priced in the USA, you seem to be paying only $20 per month more than standard AT&T plans for the addition of the unlimited data plan.
Here in the UK, O2 are not giving such good value for money. Here's something I posted in another thread showing how much extra O2 are charging us.
Yeah, he can't quite seem to be the 'cool' geek, just the plain old nerd...
And if you do get in the will, teach me how
seriously complaining about 100% markup?
that's nothing these days.
look at everything else around you...
gas, clothing, jewelry, cars, bottled water, cd's.
those are all at least 300% to over 1000% markup.
i'd say the consumer came out pretty well on this one.
that's nothing these days.
look at everything else around you...
gas, clothing, jewelry, cars, bottled water, cd's.
those are all at least 300% to over 1000% markup.
i'd say the consumer came out pretty well on this one.
A couple of points.
1. I think we can agree that O2 invested money in the EDGE rollout and Visual Voicemail implementation primarily for the iPhone. Money which can justifiably be recouped elsewhere by the company. I'm not even going to go into the £20m marketing budget O2 has laid out for the iPhone.
2. The Cloud for an individual device like a PSP or any other phone is actually £6.99. The £3.99 is a special deal only for the Touch, negotiated by Apple/O2.
So even adjusting for the Cloud alone, and not including the EDGE/VV stuff, that makes the iPhone £5.50 per month more expensive than the closest equivalent tariff.
So to sum up, while there is a premium in the iPhone contracts and less flexibility, the doom merchants on this forum and elsewhere moaning about how "you have to sign up to the most horrible contract in the entire industry", are grossly exaggerating. Especially when it still costs £8 for 30MB of data on Orange.
5 year exclusivity for AT&T??
That is your loss
I'm enjoying mine.I agree with your main points but I think you're wrong about the bike chain and gear system. They've been using chain for so long because its the most efficient way to transfer power. There have been all sorts of crazy drive systems for bikes but the trade offs haven't been worth it. Too heavy, not efficient enough, not durable enough, not easy to manufacture, yadah, yadah. The main goal for a bike drive system is to be light and efficient. If you push down on the peddles and 10% of the energy is lost, you have to work that much harder.
I do wish apple made a bike though
I wish apple made everything...
It also illustrates what a terrible manager Steve really is. Innovator, for sure, but it seems like Apple could get more done if its employees didn't wind up hating each other after every major project.
Though I thought the article was spot-on about wrenching the cell phone industry's death-grip on innovation away from carriers. Maybe a by-product of all this is that we'll finally see a Treo with WiFi.
I'm warming up to the iPhone a great deal, with the clincher being the upcoming SDK in February. If the next revision incorporates the changes that many folks hope it will, I'll probably be dumping Verizon sometime this year - despite Consumer Reports less-than-glowing review of AT&T.
I'd love to see Apple's "graveyard" of prototypes some day though - everything from the G5 PowerBook through the P1 iPhone, and all the weird circuit boards in wooden boxes in between.
I guess I can cut them a little slack now about the underwhelming iPhone updates so far. I had no idea how much work all of it really truly is. I'm sure now that they have it more solid they will be adding the features etc. And who knows what they are going crazy working on for 5 years down the road now
The slack I want to see cut is from the geniuses who've been raving for the past 6 months about how 'Apple could have released the SDK right away... they just wanted to screw everyone.'
Yeah... they had plenty of cycles to spare for that.
But those comments were generally from self-aggrandizing hackers who've never worked on a project larger than a Sudoku game.
Well, there are a lot of Jobs haters out there who would still use the word 'special'.
But indeed, I'm remembering the cell phone exec who said something to the effect that Apple was just crazy if they thought they could just waltz in and improve on what the cell phone companies had been doing for 20 years.
I'm curious... beyond his reasons for killing the Newton in particular, what have you heard Jobs say dissing tablets in general. Just curious.
The difference is, however, that the Treo will essentially always be the same device next week as it was when you bought it. Even first gen iPhones will be evolving far past what they originally were since they're software based.
That's the HUGE difference. Every issue you mentioned can or will be remedied within this year.
Well, how 'bout this?
I haven't gotten an iPhone because my company uses pooled minutes which can't be linked to the iPhone yet. (Do have, and love, the touch, btw.)
So until then, I when my Nokia died recently, I got a kRAZR. Looked good on paper. 2 meg camera and all the other iPhone'ish features that 'everyone else already has.'
1) activating took 1/2 hour on phone with the carrier
2) the interface is the most god-awful mish-mash of hidden menus and 'hotkeys' I've ever seen.
3) and now the fun part. I simply wanted to sync my Mac address book with the phone. I had already sync'd my PC Outlook (contacts and calendar) to my touch, and sync'd from there to my Mac in about (literally) 5 minutes via iTunes. No hassles, no data issues at all.
After connecting the kRAZR to my Mac via Bluetooth (not particularly worse or better than other pairing exercises I've had) I wasted over an hour trying to get the address book to sync. Ultimately gave up, and have since heard that that's a common issue. (Anyone have a solution to that one?)
4) I tried out the handy-dandy camera and after taking a few picture, discovered that there's no way (apparently) to DELETE A F*CKING PICTURE!!
At least no way that's in any way intuitive to anyone I've handed it to. (Again, anyone have a fix to that one?)
5) the 'web' access is a pathetic joke.
the point is, again, the 'revolutionary' aspect is not any specific feature (other than visual voice-mail.) Its that all of those features that every other phone claims to have are actually USABLE on on the iPhone.
And the fact that its ultimate expandability is light years beyond any other phone.
THAT's what's leaving everyone else in the dust.
P1 Pictures?
There seems to be quite a bit of support for the concept of the P1 in the patent applications filed by Apple
Steve P. Jobs is the lead inventor on all the applications too... he doesn't appear on the actual iPhone patent applications
There seems to be quite a bit of support for the concept of the P1 in the patent applications filed by Apple
Steve P. Jobs is the lead inventor on all the applications too... he doesn't appear on the actual iPhone patent applications
I hope you don't give people financial advice because you are obviously clueless.
But I doubt your serious. If you are I am worried for your common sense.
Hands on...
I wholeheartedly agree. It is gorgeous. No wonder everyone is dying to get their hands on an iPhone.
I wholeheartedly agree. It is gorgeous. No wonder everyone is dying to get their hands on an iPhone.
GQB,
I also got a recent kRAZR, and confirm that mine is also a POS! I talk for 40 minutes, and the phone is dead - never had a phone die this quickly.
As to synching with my Mac, I also wasted an hour with sorts of nonsense 2 weeks ago. But finally got it to work for contacts - I think this was the solution I found:
1. Delete any previous Device profiles for it you may have created in iSync.
2. Go to the Settings/Bluetooth Menu and delete any Device profiles you previously created on kRAZR.
3. Now Under the Settings/Bluetooth/Settings options, set t eh Discover Mode to On, but DON'T use the phone to look for the computer.
4. With the phone in discovery mode, open iSync and Add Device.
When I did things in this order, iSync could not only see the device (which it could earlier), but could upload my contacts. I don't believe it has support for iCal, however.
5 year exclusivity for AT&T??
This post seems like its 11.5 months old.