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Unless you need 100% carbon app support, I recommend 8.6 over 9. The only real downfall to 8.6 is that its carbon app support isn't as complete. 8.6 is more reliable, and will be even faster. I run it on a G4 400MHz, and it's faster than you can ever imagine. A literal screamer. Even on a 5400rpm HDD.
But 8.6 won't run on newer G4 machines (or most G4 machines actually).
A fair point indeed. You're literally forced to use 9 on any Power Mac G4 past the Sawtooth I beleive. I'm guilty of only thinking in my Sawtooth 400MHz bubble. Having said that, you certainly don't need a newer G4 for 9. It will scream on any G4. But if you get a Sawtooth or Yikes... run 8.6.
I coaxed 8.6 onto my 500mhz tibook. Flies even using the stock 20gb hdd.
I used the iMic ROM to install on my A1013, and it runs beautifully. This is one of those not supported computers that just happens to run OS 9 really well, and IIRC it was one of the first that was "cracked."
Since it has an Airport Extreme card, WiFi doesn't work. If you want WiFi, track down an Orinoco Gold Cardbus card(they're hard to find but out there) and you can use it with the same limitations as normal in OS 9(WEP only).
Here's the thread from ThinkClassic both with the ROM and how to make it work
www.thinkclassic.org
Since it has an Airport Extreme card, WiFi doesn't work. If you want WiFi, track down an Orinoco Gold Cardbus card(they're hard to find but out there) and you can use it with the same limitations as normal in OS 9(WEP only).
Here's the thread from ThinkClassic both with the ROM and how to make it work
Mac OS 9 on Unsupported Hardware - ThinkClassic
Time for another release. I wanted to release these now in their current form since I won't be able to commit to a time-frame for another release. Significant life events and recent difficulties have…
www.thinkclassic.org
Oh I'd love to but the 500 TiBook only has VGA and she only has DVI - I tried a VTBook but it would only do 1600x1200 on her. Now if I could get 8.6 onto my DVI TiBooks...Now run Big Bertha with it. Go on, you know you want to
Iirc @LightBulbFun couldn't get it to boot on a 500mhz ibook. No idea about the DA but hopefully he'll chime inAny chance I could get it on my DA or my iBook G3?
Mac OS 8.6 goes Titanium
I've been wanting to try this for quite some time... It's an original 500 MHz model. I used the 8.6 image for the Sawtooth, copied in the ATI and FireWire kexts from the stock 9.1 volume and did the OF trickery to spoof a PowerBook2,1. I've only played with it for a couple of minutes...
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You'll find @LightBulbFun's modified ROM (that should allow booting without OF mumbojumbo) in this post:
Mac OS 8.6 findings and ramblings
its been a while (I got a bit side tracked with other things) but a while ago I managed to finally hack the Mac OS ROM from the 8.6 Sawtooth image so it would boot on unsupported machines without any OF fiddling :) I more or less applied the patches the User iMacC2D used on the Mac OS 9 ROM, to...
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Hopefully, it would make an interesting video :3Iirc @LightBulbFun couldn't get it to boot on a 500mhz ibook. No idea about the DA but hopefully he'll chime in
I love 8.6 so much, and it's sad that most have forgotten what is the most reliable OS Apple ever made before X. I used it as my Mac OS from 1999 to 2003.
And an interesting observation to me is that the last 3 Apple OS's with a .6 have been when they got it the most efficient and stable. Those 3 being 7.6, 8.6 and 10.6. So .6 whether by coincidence or intent was their get stuff right version with each OS number.
And an interesting observation to me is that the last 3 Apple OS's with a .6 have been when they got it the most efficient and stable. Those 3 being 7.6, 8.6 and 10.6. So .6 whether by coincidence or intent was their get stuff right version with each OS number.
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We need 9.6 and 11.6 then LOL
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Iirc @LightBulbFun couldn't get it to boot on a 500mhz ibook. No idea about the DA but hopefully he'll chime in
seeing as I got Mac OS 8.6 booting on a MDD im sure a DA would be no problem
but sadly I do not have a DA or QS for that matter in the collection to experiment/test with sadly, if anyone in the UK has one for sale for a reasonable price (with shipping) do let me know LOL
I like 8.6. I use it on my PowerBook G3. I find 8.6 to run better than 9 on that particular Mac and I’m still able to do the same things in 8.6 that I did when that Mac was running 9.
That MDD must melt your eyes with how fast it would run 8.6. Is it a dual MDD?seeing as I got Mac OS 8.6 booting on a MDD im sure a DA would be no problem
but sadly I do not have a DA or QS for that matter in the collection to experiment/test with sadly, if anyone in the UK has one for sale for a reasonable price (with shipping) do let me know LOL
Dual 1.42 no less, although I did not have the CPU multiprocessor extension installed so one CPU was not doing anything
your OF commands like good, (I would recommend doing boot cd:,\\:tbxi instead of mac-boot. also keep in mind the OF changes are volatile ie they will reset once you reboot/reset the machine)
but you do need a Sawtooth 8.6 install, as thats the latest 8.6 image and contains the most up to date uninorth drivers. the install CD image i found on the internet is called sawtooth_8.6_restore&Install.zip
fun fact this also works on MDDs
for an MDD, substitute PowerBook2,1 for PowerMac3,1 (I suspect 8.6 could also be made to work on GigE DA and QS G4s but i sadly dont own any of those)
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Right, i have noted that OS 8 is much faster than 9. One interesting although lesser known point: did you know that OS 8 even runs on a 68040 (although slow)?
Also, since people are talking about OS 8 as well, I changed the title of this thread to "The OS 8/9 on newer PowerPC Macs thread". Thanks!
Also, since people are talking about OS 8 as well, I changed the title of this thread to "The OS 8/9 on newer PowerPC Macs thread". Thanks!
Which OS 8 version? 8.0 and 8.1 do both run on the 68040, but IIRC support was dropped with 8.5.
This is very interesting. How much is out there for OS 8.6 in terms of applications compared to OS 9 ? My PPC macs that I have only support 9 and OS X. Right now, I am typing this on a G4 1GHZ Titanium which only supports 9.2.2 and OS X Leopard. I guess I could get Sheepshaver and run OS 8.6 in emulation. Is there really any big difference with 8.6 ?
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Or we need is OS 9.2.3 or 9.3 lol
A vast majority of all the software that runs on 9 will also run on 8.6. Carbon apps were an early X days thing that allowed properly coded apps to live a double life on 9 and X. But in terms of classic only apps, virtually everything will run on 8.6.