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Jackbequickly

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How we did it work? How Did you transfer your data, with a back up or quick transfer?

Let us know how it worked!
 

lindros2

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Data transfer is still hosed, but eSIM activation was seamless (AT&T USA physical SIM > eSIM).
It took about a minute to go from physical (deactivate) to eSIM (activate).
NOTE that since I reset/restarted 5x due to transfer errors, I *almost clicked "erase all settings and eSIM"... which would have been bad.
 

raoden

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I would really like to know this as well. Can somebody who has done it say what method you used and how well it worked.

Personally I am debating
1. Restore from a backup from my mac and call Verizon for eSim (least preferred. I would like to avoid calling them and wasting my time)
2. Restore from a iCloud backup. I suspect this is same as #1
3. iPhone direct transfer. I have not used this before. I suspect this will work for physical sim to esim. But this is likely to take a huge amount of time to transfer the 200+ gigs of data I have.

Any recommendations from people who has done this today? Would like to know before I attempt this today evening after work.
 
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Mos Jeff

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My current iPhone 12 Pro Max is still on iOS 15 as I wanted to use ios 16 for the first time on my new iPhone 14 pro max. Will this cause me any issues transferring from physical to esim? Thanks in advance!
 
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BarrettF77

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I’d like to know how easy it is if you want to go back and forth between devices like moving a SIM card to the device you want to use. AT&T was no help other than saying call manually every time I want to do this. Which is dumb.
 

adammull

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I would really like to know this as well. Can somebody who has done it say what method you used and how well it worked.

Personally I am debating
1. Restore from a backup from my mac and call Verizon for eSim (least preferred. I would like to avoid calling them and wasting my time)
2. Restore from a iCloud backup. I suspect this is same as #1
3. iPhone direct transfer. I have not used this before. I suspect this will work for physical sim to esim. But this is likely to take a huge amount of time to transfer the 200+ gigs of data I have.

Any recommendations from people who has done this today? Would like to know before I attempt this today evening after work.
I am doing it currently. I always setup manually as new but this time I let it bring data from my current phone side by side. The e-sim conversion made me call Verizon, not sure if this is because I am a business account or not, but it was automated. Seamless. Took about 1 min, and it hung up on me and all of a sudden my current phone went to SOS and no signal and the new phone was activated.

Now it is currently downloading my backup from iCloud and says it should be done in 15 minutes.
 
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lindros2

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I’d like to know how easy it is if you want to go back and forth between devices like moving a SIM card to the device you want to use. AT&T was no help other than saying call manually every time I want to do this. Which is dumb.
Definitely not as easy.
It's my understanding the phones can store eight (8) eSIM, with only two active at a time (obviously).
But I'm unclear on how transferring eSIM between devices is - and if it's even possible.
Or if you can transfer a number between eSIM.
 

doxielover

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Do both phones have to be on 16? Has anyone on safelink or tracfone MNVO able to transition to esim?
 

lindros2

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Do both phones have to be on 16? Has anyone on safelink or tracfone MNVO able to transition to esim?
I've read conficting reports, but based on my experience with "pre-release/manufacturing load of 16 on new ones" and "GA on my phone", I think they can be anything over iOS 15.0, which introduced the "convert to eSIM" option on some (most? all?) carriers.
Now with prepaid and other MVNO? I would think the answer would be "no".
 

SRQrws

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No issues at all going from 13 Pro Max to 14 Pro Max (Verizon). Turned on the new phone, the eSim activated after about 2 minutes, then did the iPhone-to-iPhone data transfer which took about another 10 minutes. After that I ran the 16.0.1 update.
 

lindros2

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There is one kind of important caveat:
By switching to an eSIM, I can no longer receive 2FA (2-factor) SMS to my phone number to login to AT&T (att.com).
They said it could take about 4 hours, which I believe = a couple days.
 

Kung

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For me it was easy...

...since I did it last week on my 12. Today I just had to buy the phone and transfer stuffs from the 12 to the 14P.
 

Broric

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O2 UK here.

How does this work with a trade in? If I trade in my existing phone when I collect the new one from Apple, I won't have it and so won't be able to activate the esim and do the sim swamp that's needed.
 

SumYoungGai

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Jun 11, 2013
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Switched primary AT&T line from 13 PM to 14 PM. That was flawless but when I try to transfer a secondary line, the transfer menu just goes away after I confirm on the 13 PM.
 

lindros2

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O2 UK here.

How does this work with a trade in? If I trade in my existing phone when I collect the new one from Apple, I won't have it and so won't be able to activate the esim and do the sim swamp that's needed.
Well - I did the phone-to-phone transfer, and basically the first thing it does - can't recall before/after FaceID - was the eSIM transfer as part of activating the phone.

You can do that, then the phone basically "becomes" your SIM.

Everything else that occurs is afterwards or downstream.

Or in my case, failed to transfer data 4x and drove me nuts.
 

Broric

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Oct 1, 2009
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Well - I did the phone-to-phone transfer, and basically the first thing it does - can't recall before/after FaceID - was the eSIM transfer as part of activating the phone.

You can do that, then the phone basically "becomes" your SIM.

Everything else that occurs is afterwards or downstream.

Or in my case, failed to transfer data 4x and drove me nuts.

But you'd have already traded your old phone in at that stage wouldn't you? I've always got my new phone from the store and then gone home and restored from icloud backup.
 

MGGN

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Jun 20, 2022
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Anyone done dual sim?
My experience, it would only copy over ONE eSim:

I had 3 eSim on my iPhone 13 and it would only allow me to transfer one during setup. I had T-Mobile*, Mint, and US-Mobile. When it showed my eSims and asked if I would like to move any, I could put a check mark next to either T-Mobile or US-Mobile, but not both. Mint was greyed out and I wasn't allowed to transfer it in the setup. I chose to move T-Mobile, since that is my primary number.

*I had previously converted my T-Mobile physical SIM over to an eSim earlier in the week on my old phone.

Afterwards, I went into the Mint app and you choose 'Change Device' and you get a new eSim assigned to your new phone in a few minutes. Very easy, actually (although they sneakily re-enabled autopay when I did this).

I didn't bother figuring out how to get the US Mobile eSim back onto my new phone since it was for their 10 day trial and I don't plan to continue using them.

Now that more MVNO support eSim, I plan to switch my Mint plan over to a Verizon backed one - so I have double coverage. I use my second line as my business line, so I can slide it to off after hours.
 
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