The Pro is for non Pros

[Dammit Cubs]

I think people think PRO and think that's for professionals but I don't see anything PRO about the Ipad PRO. They needed a naming structure that was consistent with thier previous naming structure. It was either Pro or Plus. And I think Pro better.

It is also important to point out that if this was truly for professionals, it would probably a hell of a lot more and probably would have more capabilities. Professionals would care to send an extra 400 dollars (especially for a compay is paying for it).

Have you seen those ergonomic chairs that corporations have...they are 1300..EACH! for a chair!

 

[neutrino23]

Sure, procreate is fantastic, but that's not enough. It's not even revolutionary, we also have that kind of apps on regular iPads. It only makes use of a pencil and a bigger screen. That's my concern, this iPad doen't give us anything really new.

What I'm saying is that if you ask about what people think of the iPad pro to any normal guy (not tech-savvy), they are not excited about a huge ipad that does the same than their iPads mini or Air. It weights more, it doesn't have a full file manager, and you can't download anything with Safari by default. Of course it's technologically awesome, but that means nothing. So, if those are not the target (who represent 90% of people), and then among the "PROS" people like me is not the target either... Seems that this iPad is aimed to drawing artists (painters) and Apple-geeks. Just that.

To sum up: nice hardware, incomplete software. I'm not saying I want OS X on it like a surface... but something in between? Indeed.

P.S: I'm trying to be objective. As geek I also want to try it and I've also though of getting one to play, but the truth about this iPad is different.

"It only makes use of a pencil and a bigger screen. That's my concern, this iPad doen't give us anything really new."

Right. Except for the Pencil, larger screen, 4GB memory and A9x processor it is just like an Air 2.

Have you even tried this? The Pencil alone makes this a fantastic device. I'm not an artist, I work in the ares of science and engineering and this will be a huge help. I can see loading in images of samples then making detailed notes and annotations as I conduct an analysis. Similarly, I'll be able to make sketches and write down equations while teaching users about our instrumentation.

I'm sure you can find examples of important things that the iPad Pro can't do. But, viewed in the opposite sense there are an awful lot of things that the iPad Pro can do that wasn't possible before.

 

[JonSarge3108]

I agree, should be most helpful on the farm to keep track of all those cows and chickens in your field.

Exactly the professional reason I use it - and what's wrong with a farmer embracing technology ?

Ok - not quiet. I have no cows.

 

[tdale]

I'm an architect, and I'm also a developer (Video Explorer for Apple TV). I use autocad, photoshop, illustrator, xcode... I usually need to sketch, and use many other PRO and design apps. I think I'm "a maker". And I can't see myself using this iPad PRO.

You could argue that this iPad is not for me. Well, The rest of people, those who don't need any of the Apps I named, why would get a huge iPad when they can have an iPad Air 2 doing exactly de same and less weight? You don't need to sacrify mobility to do some web browsing and write a word document. I understand that OSX is not ready for a tablet... But It should offer something more than regular iOS. The fact that they only talk about how great the speakers are, while they show people drawing using the pencil... And nothing more... Is.... Well, dissappointing.
Really, Calling this iPad 'PRO' is a joke. It's an iPad PLUS.

Read an article the other day. Mac Pro is a Pro. Macbook Pro is not Pro, its Deluxe. iPad pro is an iPad Plus as you suggest

 

[KimHansenDK]

"It only makes use of a pencil and a bigger screen. That's my concern, this iPad doen't give us anything really new."

Right. Except for the Pencil, larger screen, 4GB memory and A9x processor it is just like an Air 2.

Have you even tried this? The Pencil alone makes this a fantastic device. I'm not an artist, I work in the ares of science and engineering and this will be a huge help. I can see loading in images of samples then making detailed notes and annotations as I conduct an analysis. Similarly, I'll be able to make sketches and write down equations while teaching users about our instrumentation.

I'm sure you can find examples of important things that the iPad Pro can't do. But, viewed in the opposite sense there are an awful lot of things that the iPad Pro can do that wasn't possible before.

But he is right?

And why can't you make detailed notes and annotations with the iPad Air 2 and a stylus? Sure the larger screen and the optimised stylus (pencil) is great, but the things you mention are already possible.

Until Apple release some exclusive Pro apps that make use of that extra processing power and ram - and let us connect a display and mouse to it - it will never be a Pro product. It will still 'just' be an iPad Plus.

 

[JonSarge3108]

I wouldn't use an iPad Air to run my business. I will use an iPad pro

 

[KimHansenDK]

I wouldn't use an iPad Air to run my business. I will use an iPad pro

I get that. But what can you do on an iPad Pro that you can't do on an iPad Air 2? I am personally tempted by the iPad Pro but I can't help to think that it has to do something extra...

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

Exactly the professional reason I use it - and what's wrong with a farmer embracing technology ?

Ok - not quiet. I have no cows.

I meant it, even if it sounded sarcastic. This category of device basically serves its purpose best as a data driven digital clipboard in hospitals, on farms, etc. The regular iPad is a little too small. Closer to A4 format makes it perfect because it can rest better across the lower forearm and two people can easily read the content while one of them is entering data.

 

[Night Spring]

And why can't you make detailed notes and annotations with the iPad Air 2 and a stylus?

Haven't had a chance to try the Pencil yet, but with a regular stylus on an iPad Air, I can't write small enough, and the iPad is too small, to take detailed notes. From what I hear about the Pencil, you can use it to write like a regular pen, and the iPad Pro is large enough to hold a lot more notes. Though if Apple made an iPad Air 3 that works with the Pencil, then that might also be good for note taking.

 

[JonSarge3108]

I get that. But what can you do on an iPad Pro that you can't do on an iPad Air 2? I am personally tempted by the iPad Pro but I can't help to think that it has to do something extra...

With pencil input I can replace my paper notepad. One less thing to haul around with me. An Air is too small to do that and isn't setup deliberately for stylus use like the pro is.

And the screen size makes the big spreadsheets I work on useable, the air is just that bit too small. There's a screen size you have to be at for working on these things all day.

 

[Phil A.]

David Hockney can do whatever he pleases, in whatever medium he chooses, and people will line up to see and buy, because he's David Hockney.

When Calvin Klein's creative director calls my studio and wants to know why the photos of their new CK One bottle look magenta instead of white, I don't have the luxury of saying "Well, I retouched it on an uncalibrated consumer grade screened iPad and I think it looks great, so deal with it." I am not David Hockney.

That's fair enough, in which case your thread title should have said "not for pros like me" or simply said "the iPad pro is not for me" - your bold declaration that it's not for pros at all is what made your thread controversial and clearly wrong as it will be for some "Pros"
As it happens, it's not for me either as I'm a professional software developer so couldn't use one to replace a computer but I'm not so blind to think my requirements are the same as everyone else's